All 38-40/10mm Ruger Buckeye Owners

Started by RRMan03, May 26 2013 04:03:16 PM MDT

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RRMan03

How many on here do we have? If you have one post the last 4 of the serial number and how yours shoots and its favorite load. If its a reload post bullet,weight and fps. I am not asking for you secrets unless you want to give them in a PM. I do not reload so I have all my 38-40 loads made for me by a nice guy who agreed to do it for me from this forum. Instead of a 800-900 load I have a great hunting load or defensive load thanks to him and you know who you are.Also if you have this gun do you have its little brother in matching serial number? My gun is NIB and I hate to shoot it. I am thinking of looking for another one just like it already shot to use and keep this one untouched and buy its little brother with matching serial number.

REDLINE

Certainly do what you want, but I say shoot the one you got.  I'm pretty sure it has almost no chance of ever becoming valueable enough to keep it in pristine investment condition.  And with the affection you're already showing it I'm sure you will keep it cleaned up immaculately after each outing.  Honestly IMO it would be a shame not to shoot it.  Plus it would be a way better conversation piece out at the range than as a wall hanger or safe queen.  That's my less than a pennies worth of an opinion. 
Gun Control?  Oh yes, the theory that becoming a victim is somehow morally superior to defending yourself & your family.  Makes perfect sense.

MCQUADE

I haven't had the chance to run much of anything thru mine yet. I bought mine just before you got yours, I got it in February. The last 4 are 3414. Outstanding shape, no box but came with a nice case, 2 boxes of unknown 38-40, a box of Winchester 38-40, and a box of the old lancer 10mm auto and a good price. When I give it a work out I will post results of accuracy, I ain't got no chrony.
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DM1906

Quote from: REDLINE on May 27 2013 12:23:42 AM MDT
Certainly do what you want, but I say shoot the one you got.  I'm pretty sure it has almost no chance of ever becoming valueable enough to keep it in pristine investment condition.  And with the affection you're already showing it I'm sure you will keep it cleaned up immaculately after each outing.  Honestly IMO it would be a shame not to shoot it.  Plus it would be a way better conversation piece out at the range than as a wall hanger or safe queen.  That's my less than a pennies worth of an opinion.

NIB/unfired get about a $200 premium, and even more if they aren't turned.  That more than doubles with the matching pair (matching serial numbers).  I don't have any "safe queens", so that's the price I pay.  Collector value means little to me, unless I use them for trade.  I don't pay collector value for anything, because I know it won't have that once I get it.  I shoot what I have, or turn it over for something I will shoot.  I'm still looking for the matching .32 to mine, and I hope to find it shot, in good condition.

I bought mine, NIB and unturned.  I hesitated to shoot it, which was about a minute.
Life's tough. It's tougher if you're stupid. -- The Duke

RRMan03

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DM1906 you know the deal. Mine is #2524 and the little brother is sitting there waiting as new. I was thinking of getting it with this one not at a collector price either and maybe trading them later for a new Ferrari after all the guns are gone and I have the only 2 NIB guns in the world. LOL. I would say it gets shot soon. I am not a collector I am a shooter but they are a pretty set. I just watched a set and printed it out from a big gun auction sell for 2500 both NIB.There were 7 bids on the guns.We are in such a crazy world of guns that the values are skewed to what someone is willing to pay for what you have.

RRMan03

Come on guys. Is this board this small or is there just that few Ruger revolvers in circulation in 38-40/10mm.I would have figure we would have had at least 10 by now and we have 3.

EdMc

It's my understanding that the Buckeye Rugers were a limited production run for one distributor....how many made? I don't know, but probably not many compared to their normal production in other calibers. Somewhat rare, so therefore they bring a premium price in today's market.

Overall, SA revolvers are a small part of yearly gun production anyway. Yeah, I like SA revolvers and would like to have a Buckeye Ruger, but not at current average prices. Until I joined this site I'd never heard of the pistols. We have around 500 members here, so only three having them gives you some idea of the rarity, I'd think.

sqlbullet

They certainly aren't common.  And they usually go for way more than I want to pay on auction sites.

DM1906

S/A revolvers are more of an acquired taste, rather than a following, in any caliber.  Essentially, they are obsolete in today's SD circles.  They are what they are.

5,000 each were made for Davidson's.  I've "heard" it was 2500 each (for a total of 5,000), but the serial numbers would suggest otherwise.  They started at xxx-000001 (saw a pic of this one), and I've seen and heard of SN's in the 4xxx range, including mine.  Surely they didn't have 2500 culls.
Life's tough. It's tougher if you're stupid. -- The Duke

sqlbullet

They are certainly outclassed for defensive shooting by newer designs.  Which is not to say that they can't be effective, just that other, newer designs are just as effective and more versatile.

But, it would be just the ticket for handgun hunting whitetail with 10mm on the family farm.  In that state, no semi-auto handguns are allowed.

RRMan03

I just started to say. You show me that auto that at 200 yards will kill a deer or hit a paper plate and I am buying it.my Glocks are good and I mean real good out ot 75 yards. Outside that he drip gets  huge. I know you can modify the gun to a longer barrel but there you are trying to get to revolver barrel lengths. As for actual numbers the special run were 2 guns for Buckeye Sports. The fir, st a 32-20/32HR mag Serial number 610-00XXXX. RENE says right at 5000 produced. The second gun and the one 10mm guys would be interested in is the 32-40/10mm. Serial numbers per RENE are 611-00XXX with around 5500 made 5000 were made for Buckeye and then 500 more produced for sale by Ruger as they have the rights to anything over the original orders.And besides Smiths 610 and 310 it is the only factory 10mm ever produced that I know about. There are customs and conversions but not factory guns. Seems the 610 is now a 1500 dollar gun and the Ruger can be gotten when found for anywhere from 650 lower condition to 1200 NIB. But as a set they go up to about 1500-1600 if you hve the matching serial number gun. They are rare compared to a gun that runs every year but not as rare as a gun that ran 750 and brings a lower price. I think its all about reputation and demand by certain parties of collectors an shooters.What it really is all about is are you happy with the money you spent for a particular gun. Just like anything else,did giving up the green make you happy.

MCQUADE

Well, hell, I'm just gonna shoot summa momma's beer cans tommorrow with the 'ol buckeye. Gonna try 100 yards if I can see that far, the pain meds make my sight sorta blurry.  :P really though, I do need to give it a work out, might use it on deer and hogs later this year, you guys got me on fire and I'm shootin' mine!
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sqlbullet

205 grain hardcast loaded to a muzzle velocity of 1300 fps in my Witness or 1911 10mm still is moving 1000 fps at 200 yards and delivering 460 lb-ft of energy.

Putting that shot in the vitals would be a challenge, but the bullet certainly has the energy and penetration still at that range for a kill on a white tail.

RRMan03

Oh i agree that the 200 yard shot with a pistol is possible but not the easiest of shots. I have handgun hunted  for years and it is actually harder with open sights than bow hunting. ?holding that gun on he vitals plus my poor eyesight make it almost dam impossible. I try to keep my shots to bow range with a handgun giving myself an over 50 % chance of killing andnot wounding the animal. A jacket up 10mm will definitely carry the velocity and energy to kill at 200 yards the 38-40 on the other hand if yo remember was a rifle cartrige to start with and has more case capacity than a 10.Having killed over 200 whitetails with everything but a knife in the deer infested state on TN I pretty much know what it takes and it does not take much to kill a deer if you put your shot where its supposed to be. one the other hand wound one and their will to live will walk you for 5 miles and you will never find it. Its all about where the shot hits.And yes I have spent a lot of money I wish I had put in my safe hunting but at one time it was my obsession. i hunted all of North American and Canada. Great adventure but at great cost and so high now the average guy will never have the chanve to do what i did and its sad for the shooting industry and for the kids it might keep out of trouble.We are a dying breed.

MCQUADE

Well RRMan03, I took the 'ol buckeye out today for some plinking. She performed wonderfully. At 25 yards, using Underwood 180 tmj, offhand, I got one ragged hole the size of a half dollar (12 shots). Everything hit at 1 o'clock about 3 inches high. That's all I had time to fire out of the Blackhawk. I'm positive that a heavier bullet will work better so I have to dig out the 200 and 220 grainers. Since I'm out of work for awhile with my bum knee I should have plenty more time to shoot. I've got the ammo, I just need a stockpile of 38-40 for the other cylinder.
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