Gelatin test: 7.62x39mm Hornady SST, Underwood 9mm 115 gr +P+ Gold Dot, .44 mag

Started by Raggedyman, May 07 2013 01:53:07 PM MDT

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Raggedyman





123 gr Hornady SST loaded over 25.2 grains of Hodgdon H4198 and fired from a Norinco SKS into calibrated gelatin.

BB calibration: 609.3 3.7"

Impact velocity: 2,284 fps
Penetration: 16.7"
Retained weight: 77.0 gr
Max expansion: 0.583"
Min expansion: 0.412"









.44 mag 200 gr Speer Gold Dot Short Barrel, part number 23971 fired from Ruger Super Redhawk Alaskan, 2.5" barrel through four layers of denim into calibrated gelatin.

BB calibration: 609.3, 3.7"

Impact velocity: 1,049 fps
Penetration: 15.5"
Retained weight: 199.6 gr
Max expansion: 0.809"
Min expansion: 0.607"









9mm Underwood 115 gr Gold Dot +P+ fired from Glock 22 with Lone Wolf 9mm conversion barrel through four layers of denim into calibrated gelatin.

BB calibration: 609.3, 3.7"

Impact velocity: 1,483 fps
Penetration: 14.9"
Retained weight: 115.9 gr
Max expansion: 0.592"
Min expansion: 0.412"

Intercooler

Interesting. I thought a 7.62x39 would have been more devastating. What is the length of the G22 barrel?

RMM

If it's stock length the G22 length should be 4.5".  It is interesting to note that the 115 +p+ penetrated 14.9" in this test vs. 9" in TN's test even though the velocity was ~50 FPS faster here (TN got ~1435 out of a 4" barrel.)  The expansion was .889" in TN's test vs. .592" here, which explains the difference in penetration.   That is a HUGE difference!

There is either a big difference in the testing media or a very large difference between these batches of Gold Dots! (My bet is on the media)

BB penetration here was 3.7", TN's was also 3.7".  Interesting to say the least.

Thanks for the post Raggedyman!  Do not take my statements to be a criticism of your work because I really appreciate it.
Richard - G20SF

Raggedyman

That's correct. "Stock" 4.5" conversion barrel.

I was also surprised that the 7.62 didn't have a larger temporary cavity and at the difference between tnoutdoors9's test and my own. It's almost a mirror of our respective results for 10mm 180 gr Gold Dot. I think the test media might account for some of the difference, but I think there's something else going on. I'm at a loss to explain it. 50 fps shouldn't see any significant difference. Different bullet lots might. Maybe a difference in the type of denim? It's clear that the reason mine went deeper is because the petals folded back along the shank but why they did that is a mystery to me.

REDLINE

Really nice to see.  Thanks for sharing and putting in the time and effort.
Gun Control?  Oh yes, the theory that becoming a victim is somehow morally superior to defending yourself & your family.  Makes perfect sense.