Double Tap 200gr Nosler JHP pull-down

Started by The_Shadow, March 10 2013 09:37:45 AM MDT

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The_Shadow

Cartridge is from Ammo Manufacture: Double Tap 200gr  Nosler JHP
Ballistics Information: 10mm Auto
Muzzle Velocity: 1250 fps
Muzzle Energy: 694 ft. lbs
Brass Make/Headstamp: Double Tap - Brass
Bullet Make/Weight/Construction/Info; Length 0.6730"/Dia. 0.3995": 200gr. NOSLER JHP 
HP depth 0.2065" / inside Dia. 0.1205" / mouth Dia. 0.1950"
Actual weight 199.8 grains   Crimp squeezed bullet to 0.3970"
C.O.A.L.: 1.2405"
Primer: Nickel color
Case: Diameter 0.4210" Crimp Diameter 0.4205" (Tight) Length 0.9880"
Powder Description/Positive ID/Type/Charge LongShot Weight: 8.0 grains
Tested in 10mm S&W1006 5" 1179 fps / 1166 fps June 8 2013
Cases expanded to 0.4280" / 0.4285", primers slightly flattened, cases look good some stress.




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Intercooler


REDLINE

Double Tap says;
Ballistics : 1250fps / 694ft lbs. muzzle - 5"bbl
Glock 29 - 1195fps Muzzle

Not surprising they still fudge the numbers.  Intercooler;  Did you chrono these at 1143fps?  I didn't see them listed on your Master Sheet.

Otherwise, yeah, with 8 grains of Longshot is seems about right.  And plenty safe.  Certainly not enough to hit 1250fps from a 5" barrel of any kind.  It urks me that they fudge the numbers to such an extent.

Sure would like to see this load shot into gel.
Gun Control?  Oh yes, the theory that becoming a victim is somehow morally superior to defending yourself & your family.  Makes perfect sense.

REDLINE

Quote from: The_Shadow on March 10 2013 09:37:45 AM MDTCrimp Diameter 0.4205" (Tight)

That is tight!

When rolling my own I generally crimp to .422-.423 inches.
Gun Control?  Oh yes, the theory that becoming a victim is somehow morally superior to defending yourself & your family.  Makes perfect sense.

4949shooter

Quote from: REDLINE on March 10 2013 01:36:55 PM MDT
Double Tap says;
Ballistics : 1250fps / 694ft lbs. muzzle - 5"bbl
Glock 29 - 1195fps Muzzle

Not surprising they still fudge the numbers.  Intercooler;  Did you chrono these at 1143fps?  I didn't see them listed on your Master Sheet.

Otherwise, yeah, with 8 grains of Longshot is seems about right.  And plenty safe.  Certainly not enough to hit 1250fps from a 5" barrel of any kind.  It urks me that they fudge the numbers to such an extent.

Sure would like to see this load shot into gel.

Redline see line #27:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AjsXvXEryDJjdFhsRUcwSHRUcktCMmhOMTVFa25xa1E#gid=0

DRSJR got them at 1164.

Intercooler


REDLINE

Quote from: 4949shooter on March 10 2013 02:25:13 PM MDTRedline see line #27:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AjsXvXEryDJjdFhsRUcwSHRUcktCMmhOMTVFa25xa1E#gid=0

DRSJR got them at 1164.

That's Double Tap's 10mm 200 grain XTP bullet load.  This pull down is of the 200 grain Nosler bullet.
Gun Control?  Oh yes, the theory that becoming a victim is somehow morally superior to defending yourself & your family.  Makes perfect sense.

Intercooler

Yea David hasn't done these yet but bet you pull the XTP and it's the same thing.

4949shooter

I thought they switched out their XTP's for Noslers a while ago.

Anyhoo, I wouldn't mind a 200 grain  XTP at 1160.

REDLINE

At one point Double Tap did swap out premium hollow point bullets with Montana Gold hollow point bullets.  They may have reversed that practice again, I'm not sure.

To my knowledge Double Tap never used Nosler's bullet in place of any other, and only added Nosler bullets over time.
Gun Control?  Oh yes, the theory that becoming a victim is somehow morally superior to defending yourself & your family.  Makes perfect sense.

sqlbullet

As a cost measure I am sure.  Nosler's are a good bit cheaper than most other brand name hollow points.  That is what keeps them on my reloading shelf.

Intercooler

See soon enough how they do in gel. That should tell if the Nosler 200gr is worth any real use.

REDLINE

Yeah, I'm really curious to see those results.
Gun Control?  Oh yes, the theory that becoming a victim is somehow morally superior to defending yourself & your family.  Makes perfect sense.

Raggedyman

This is one of the ones I'm most interested in. It's also nice to see that they are REAL close in velocity to the 200 gr XTP hand load I tested so the only significant variable would be the bullet itself. Thanks to The Shadow, it looks like this load would be easy to replicate safely, too.


200 gr XTP at about 1,140 fps:


The_Shadow

Raggedyman, Once again thanks for the video.  8)  With the Hornady 200gr XTP's, I do load them to 9.4 grains of IMR800X that duplicates the Underwood load @ 1240-1260 fps.  I stop there as my max for my guns as they are setup!
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