FWIW, it was my gun.  What a topic for my first post

regards,

- jim

Gotta start somewhere! So what hot loads and how many had you put through that barrel until this?

txgunshowreview, you had a rough start but welcome to the party!  I still think your issue had to deal with a bullet setback...what caused that it is hard to say!  Anyway you saw and felt the results, glad you were not seriously hurt and taken care of by Kevin.  Hope you enjoy the forum!

Welcome to the forum. How's the Gen 4 G20 working out?

With every new Glock!



Just ribbing ya! 

Thanks, everyone. 

Intercooler - I'd say about 1000 rounds of MBI (hardly hot in the Underwood Sense), Good To Go Ammo (not hot at all), Some Speer Frangible (on the mild side), and both the Underwood Gold Dots and FMJ's.  I inspect the gun at every cleaning (which is after every practice session), including the barrel with a bore light.  No issues whatsoever before this session, but I really should have taken your advice about the practice glove   I shot in groups of three and collected brass every 3-6 shots.  No bulges, discolorations, or any other visible issue.  KB happened in the last string of 5 rounds in the box.

This was a 'new' load from Underwood, supposed to be new brass.  I'll have to open another box and see which brand they use before it gets shipped back.


EdMc - Good so far.

You could send some to Shadow and let him tear them down.

That's an idea!

- jim

That would be awesome, even just to find out the powder being used, if possible.

Quote from: Intercooler on March 03 2013 09:21:43 AM MST
As someone mentioned there what is the draw to the Sig round? I only see 125gr listed so why wouldn't you just do a 10mm?

I am thinking the same thing man. my son just bought a Glock 33 in the .357 Sig and over the weekend we had it on the range.
With 125 grain Underwoods it was just a nasty thing to shoot as the recoil in that baby Glock platform was just BRUTAL.
It grouped pretty good but was absolutely no fun to shoot! Heck I would rather shoot a .454,SW500 or .44 mag than that nasty little thing!!
If you carried it it would defeat the purpose of having 10 in the mag cauze you would take forever to recover after every round!
My Glock 29 groups better hits harder and even with something like the Underwood 175 grain is fun to shoot on the range. I also wonder what the point of the .357 sig round is with the 10mm on the scene??
Could not give me a .357 Sig unless I could trade or sell it for a 10mm!!

Hence give and take.  We all weigh our options differently.  I mostly agree with your thoughts.  By the same token one person sees merit in full power loads of 357 Magnum through a Ruger SP101.  The next guy won't shoot anything beyond 38 Special in his.  I wouldn't choose either and will stick with my G20 and 10mm Auto for the reasons you've mentioned and more.  But yeah, it is sometimes interesting how we all weigh the give and take differently.

Quote from: Ascension on March 11 2013 04:39:22 PM MDT

Quote from: Intercooler on March 03 2013 09:21:43 AM MST
As someone mentioned there what is the draw to the Sig round? I only see 125gr listed so why wouldn't you just do a 10mm?

I am thinking the same thing man. my son just bought a Glock 33 in the .357 Sig and over the weekend we had it on the range.
With 125 grain Underwoods it was just a nasty thing to shoot as the recoil in that baby Glock platform was just BRUTAL.
It grouped pretty good but was absolutely no fun to shoot! Heck I would rather shoot a .454,SW500 or .44 mag than that nasty little thing!!
If you carried it it would defeat the purpose of having 10 in the mag cauze you would take forever to recover after every round!
My Glock 29 groups better hits harder and even with something like the Underwood 175 grain is fun to shoot on the range. I also wonder what the point of the .357 sig round is with the 10mm on the scene??
Could not give me a .357 Sig unless I could trade or sell it for a 10mm!!

Well the one reason right off the top of my head is 357 SIG ammo can usually be had for cheaper than 10mm. Now I use and reload for both, so the dfference in price is small, but 9mm boolets are a lot less than 10mm boolets, and 357 loads use a touch less powder. Now my SIG P229 has both a 40cal S&W barrel and a 357 SIG barrel. In a barrel swap I can do in under a minute, I can fire each caliber. They even both use the same mags as a 357 SIG is basically a 40 S&W necked down to .357. And the real amazing thing is using my usual recipe for either case, the POA is exactly the same at 21 feet. No Kentucky windage needs to be done, sights are fine for both.

In general I find cartridge selection to be about as dogmatic as religious affiliation.  People have VERY strong beliefs about what they choose to do and are very emotional about challenges to those opinions.

I tend to agree that the 10mm fills a lot of roles.  Thanks to ammo from PPU and Underwood, we can even buy the extremes of performance in factory ammo, no handloads needed.

But, that doesn't change the fact that the market, for reasons that are really beyond logical definition, is choosing thinks like the 357 sig and 45 GAP.

It is what it is.  My experience with a Glock in 357 Sig mimic's Ascension's.  Not pleasant or easy to shoot well.

My SIG has both a 40 S&W barrel and a 357 SIG barrel. I hardly can tell one caliber from the other when I'm shooting them. What I love is either round uses the same mags, since a 357 SIG is just a .40 cal necked down to 9mm size.

Why dont we let the 40 S&W be the 40 and put the silly little 125gr 0.355" bullet in the end of a 10mm case. Wont help those w/ small hands, but would there be need for a second shot? The little Sig round seems like an awful lot of work to make a question thats hard to answer.