Charter arms

Started by dougx, June 21 2012 12:05:10 PM MDT

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sqlbullet

Hard to say.  I would kinda be surprised if it didn't as the frame is the same as the 44 special which should eject 10mm fine. If it isn't it should be possible to adapt a rod from a bulldog 44 special.

Incidentally, running some numbers on 44 special, I am less concerned about who this gun would handle a diet of 10mm loads.  I don't think most users would load it with 200 grain bear loads.  If you compare the momentum of 155 grain 10mm loads to 240 grain 44 special loads, they aren't that far apart.  I bet that gun holds up pretty well to 10mm.

alwaysshootin

Quote from: sqlbullet on June 25 2012 08:25:36 AM MDT
Hard to say.  I would kinda be surprised if it didn't as the frame is the same as the 44 special which should eject 10mm fine. If it isn't it should be possible to adapt a rod from a bulldog 44 special.

Incidentally, running some numbers on 44 special, I am less concerned about who this gun would handle a diet of 10mm loads.  I don't think most users would load it with 200 grain bear loads.  If you compare the momentum of 155 grain 10mm loads to 240 grain 44 special loads, they aren't that far apart.  I bet that gun holds up pretty well to 10mm.

Don't just compare the momentum, the pressure factor also plays a large part. As far as what one would shoot through a 10 conversion, why would anyone make a conversion, pay the hefty price, then shoot anything less than what the 10 is capable of is beyond me. Just get the Charter in 40, if that is all your going to run through it!

sqlbullet

Lets break it down a different way.  Two primary forces must be considered when discharging a handgun.  Pressure and recoil.  Pressure is what will turn a handgun into a hand grenade if the operating limits of the gun are exceeded, and recoil will impact the ability to shoot is quickly and accurately.  If operating tolerances of either pressure or recoil are regularly exceeded by a moderate amount, the longevity of the arm may be compromised.

10mm and 40 S&W both generate similar operating pressures.  The gun in question is designed to handle the pressure of full power 10mm loads if it can handle the pressure of full power 40 S&W loads.  Pressure is not an issue in the conversion since we do not propose to operate the arm at a significant variance from it's original design.

44 Special and 10mm Auto both develop similar momentum in full power loads, and therefore would develop similar recoil, since recoil is the equal and opposite momentum of the bullet and ejecta leaving the barrel.  Again, in the conversion, we are not going to operate the handgun at a significant variance from the design parameters of the original platform.

The more I think this through, the more I think this is a reasonably valid platform for conversion. I still have my original concerns about spending significant funds creating a custom firearm on a base weapon that won't support the value of the investment from a monetary perspective.  But, if you have a good performing 40 S&W Charter Arms handgun, I see nothing that would compromise it mechanically, or hasten it's demise, by a conversion to 10mm through reaming the cylinders.

I know you don't agree :D

Vice

Quote from: sqlbullet on June 25 2012 08:25:36 AM MDT
Hard to say.  I would kinda be surprised if it didn't as the frame is the same as the 44 special which should eject 10mm fine. If it isn't it should be possible to adapt a rod from a bulldog 44 special.

Good point, I was thinking from the 40 cal point of veiw.