New For 2023: Winchester 400 Legend

https://www.americanrifleman.org/content/new-for-2023-winchester-400-legend/

Well...That does tickle my fancy.  I wonder how long til I can get an AR barrel.

Quote from: sqlbullet on April 18 2023 07:55:00 AM MDT
Well...That does tickle my fancy.  I wonder how long til I can get an AR barrel.

Exactly what I was thinking.

I wish they would have use the 6.8spc case instead of the rebated rim.

Quote from: DDRiller on April 18 2023 06:09:31 PM MDT
I wish they would have use the 6.8spc case instead of the rebated rim.

Agreed  It would have made more sense!

interesting! that looks like it will be a real thumper.  is the rebated rim so it can use a 5.56 bolt?

Quote from: blaster on April 19 2023 06:42:37 AM MDT
is the rebated rim so it can use a 5.56 bolt?

No, the rebated rim gets them down to a 6.8 SPC bolt.  It is the case body diameter that is larger than a 6.8 SPC, though only by .018" (.440 v .422)

Here is a wicked thought I had last night, though the rebated rim may again cause issues.  S&W recently released the X-frame in 350 Legend.  That would definitely have my interest in 400 legend.  10mm Maximum!

Quote from: sqlbullet on April 19 2023 07:55:07 AM MDT

Quote from: blaster on April 19 2023 06:42:37 AM MDT
is the rebated rim so it can use a 5.56 bolt?

No, the rebated rim gets them down to a 6.8 SPC bolt.  It is the case body diameter that is larger than a 6.8 SPC, though only by .018" (.440 v .422)

Here is a wicked thought I had last night, though the rebated rim may again cause issues.  S&W recently released the X-frame in 350 Legend.  That would definitely have my interest in 400 legend.  10mm Maximum!

Put this in the Ruger Mini30 platform and you'd have a nice "hot rock" carbine cartridge "brush gun" platform/caliber combination.

Agreed?

It will be interesting if they can make it feed from a double stack AR-15 magazine.  In my experience with the 10mm Magnum in the AR, it was less than good.

Tony Rumore
Tromix

Hello Tony!

One thing I am looking forward to is newer selection of bullets and their overall performance at various velocities.
Many things to look forward to like cannelure bullets for positive crimping to improve ignition qualities using various powder burn rates.
All in all it should be an interesting adventure.

Quote from: The_Shadow on June 05 2023 09:01:44 AM MDT
Hello Tony!

One thing I am looking forward to is newer selection of bullets and their overall performance at various velocities.
Many things to look forward to like cannelure bullets for positive crimping to improve ignition qualities using various powder burn rates.
All in all it should be an interesting adventure.

Dear Shadow,

I agree with you completely and would like to see this round in a 16" barreled platform. Were this nestled in something akin to an M1 Carbine, it would make a perfect Hog/Black Bear/Whitetail rifle out to 200 yards.

In a prison setting, a 155-grain JHP smoking out the barrel at ungodly velocities would handle the biggest, meanest, ugliest inmate with consummate aplomb. Such a rifle/load combination would have no problems sending such a piece of human ordure to the "promised land" in less than a heartbeat.