First rounds my G20 Gen4 saw was 200gr TMJ Underwood. I used 180gr Georgia Ammo since and it feels like a .40 with that ammo.

It will need a custom mag spring to be made. The Kriss extension spring is for the .45 ACP mag and is wound larger than the 10mm spring. It won't fit inside the Glock 20 mag because they molded the inside smaller than the 21 mag. The outside dimensions are the same and will assemble and fit into the Glock 20, it just won't accept the Kriss spring.

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I haven't had any issues with Underwood ammo in my Glock 20 Gen4. Not sure about anyone ales though.

Quote from: Intercooler on September 29 2013 06:28:00 AM MDT
   The 4.75" barrel went up to $186 which isn't far off a Glock barrel of equal quality (I think) in price. How much is a 6" Glock barrel? EAA upping that one to $321 is for sure a deal breaker there. The mags are still one for $40, two for $50 and three for $75. That's on par with other MFG's. As for the conversion kits the Long Slide for $589 is high versus others for sure even with the good sight. If you go down to the Standard Long Slide for $389 it's about equal to the upper you get from Glock for $360.
   I don't see any price changes yet on complete pistols, although as an example my Match I bought for $499 a few years back is now a $575 pistol. Still a really great bang for the buck all metal pistol. My two Limiteds that go for $1000 each on the right deal is an outstanding value with what you get versus others.


   Sucks they did a big hit all at once. Less kits and more pistols will be sold now how I see it. The 6" barrels will collect dust waiting for someone to spend for those!

Checking around, you'll find original Glock barrels for $130-$150 and the 6" Glock 20 10mm barrel is about $165-$180. Aftermarket will around $100-$250. I even found a HK USP barrels for $135 on my USP compact in 357 SIG and a USP .45 Tactical threaded barrel for $198, both OEM. So comparing the EAA pricing, it's up there compared to bigger brands.

I would suggest getting 10rd factory mags. If you have 15rd mags blocked to 10rds with the factory 15rd spring, your inducing more pressure on the slide because you have less weight on top of the spring due to the 5 less rounds and more spring pressure. It would work IF there is an insert at the bottom to stop the follower at 10rds, and the spring remains at full length for 15rds. But if they blocked it off at base plate area and raised the bottom of the mag completely up, which raises the spring bottom up more, this would be your issue. At that point, you would have to clip off a single coil and retry using the mag.

I WAS interested in a Witness, but that much price increase, I will purchase elsewhere. That is just unjustified IMO. No other manufacturer has that much price increase.

Quote from: Intercooler on September 25 2013 06:23:47 AM MDT
   Lots of pissed people and rightfully so. I am because my $170 barrel I just sold is $321 now! Could have asked more now. Conversions are much more and some aren't offered anymore.  On a positive I made pistol and magazine purchases before they go there

What barrel is this?? $321 is a lot for just a barrel....

It's seems odd, because Hickok45 has shot 230gr hardcast and then 220gr through a stock barrel and aftermarket barrel in the Glock 20 G2 or G3 and he never mentions any FTF issues. I'm just wondering if anyone having issues has had anyone else shoot their Glock 20 and see if the same issue occurs?

What I find interesting, is the 200gr is not the hottest round by UW, just the heaviest gr in copper jacket. I'm wondering if OAL had something to do with you Gen4? The 135/155/165gr 10mm are hotter loads when it comes to FPS and muzzle energy.

Glad to hear they took care of you. Now you have to load up the Gen3 with the 200gr UW and take it to the range.

Post pictures of the ammo please.

The Maritime cups are used if the pistol is used in wet conditions. Say if it gets dropped into water and/or is completely submerged. If you pull it out and try firing it immediately, you may get light primer strikes and fail to fires due to water being in the firing pin channel trying to compress against the firing pin action. The Maritime cups have notches which allow the water to drain out of the firing pin channel when the gun is fired. Since Glocks are striker fired, if you get a fail to fire, you have to rack the slide to cock it again, but you just lost a round. With Maritime cups, you're adding additional countermeasures to prevent fail to fires if its completely wet. They are not for shooting under water like most think they for.

For LE/MIL, these cups would be installed say for anyone who may be in water and has to draw the weapon for immediate usage. They are restricted to civilians, but you can find them for sale online and eBay. I think I have Ghost cups, but may get OEM Glock cups also. They may wear out faster, but any Glock that may get completely soaked in water, it's a nice option to have, especially if FL.

Quote from: DAVIDF on August 29 2013 01:57:39 PM MDT
Yes, it is more mushy. In my 26 particularly, the trigger pull felt too heavy with the "." connector & my trigger finger was actually sore after an extended range session. I also recently swapped the trigger on the 26 for a smooth surfaced Gen4 17 trigger. I don't like the ridges on the 26 & 19 triggers.

In the 20 I like it slightly better with the "." connector than the "-" as it already feels pretty light. I don't have a guage, but the 20 with the "." connector feels lighter than the 26 or 17 with the "-" connector.

Got to love these Glocks how modular they are, you can take all of the components off the frame in about 30 seconds. I have to get more familiar with completely dissasembling the slide now.

I may try the "." Connectors in my 26 and 19 Gen3s to see how they feel. I also like the smooth triggers also. The ribbed triggers do make my finger sore as well.

I did take down my Gen4s and I definitely have the "." connectors in my G20 and G22. My buddy has the same also in his G20 and G23 Gen4s too.

As for taking down the slide, it's super easy. It's way easier than the frame, at least for me that is. Only real change I made was adding Maritime spring cups to my 26. All you do is compress the small plastic cup right in front of the firing pin latch and slide the back plate off and slowly release the firing pin and extractor rod from behind the back plate. Depress the firing pin block and the extractor falls out.

Quote from: DAVIDF on August 29 2013 10:58:25 AM MDT
Yes, mine has the "." connector. I have 2 other Gen 4 Glocks, a 26 & a 17 which came with the "." connector. I have since installed the "-" connector & they are much better, but more over travel. The Gen4 20 as it comes has the best trigger by far.

I have to take my 20 and 22 down, as I didn't see any "." on my connector with the slide forward to examine the back of it. My 20 does have a smoother trigger than my 22 for sure. I heard the "-" in a Gen4 makes the trigger mushy I heard and its not recommended by some. I'll have to see when I get home. I have my friend checking his G20 and G23 Gen4 also.

I would love if he tried some heavy grain ammo in 6" hunting barrel. The hardcast 230gr was awful in a stock length Glock barrel.