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#1
10mm semi-auto handguns / Re: M&P 10mm?
November 18 2021 08:20:47 PM MST
I find it too funny that S&W finds now's the time to drop a 10mm!  :o
I suppose ammo is kinda, sorta, returning to at least being on shelves.. Albeit at a much higher price point.
A lot more first time gun owners out there, the market was pretty hot.. Although it's starting to slow down.
Smith did post the industry's first Billion Dollar year, and decided to move to Tennessee  :)

All of that aside.. Smith's presser seen here
https://www.smith-wesson.com/article/mp-10mm

someone wrote this:

"The average grain weight of a 9mm bullet is around 115 grains, and the average 10mm is around 180 grains. Making the 10mm bullet 63% heavier of a round over the 9mm, that one digit millimeter difference, is really the equivalent of 63% more mass.

Now, you might also be familiar with .45 ACP, a long-standing low velocity, high powered round. Surprisingly enough, the 10mm and the .45 look an awful lot alike when you put them side by side, they?ll pack a similar punch but perform in different ways. The muzzle velocity of .45 is 840 feet per second, versus the 10mm?s 1008 feet per second."

Whoever the hell wrote that should be fired! Maybe they're thinking of .40 Short & Weak.. Even a quick glance at this list of factory loads shows that the majority of real 10mm isn't 1008fps, especially @ 180gr.. What kind of watered down b.s. are they loading up?
http://ballistics101.com/10mm.php

Just poking fun :) I'm glad a there's another one to add to the fold. I'll pick one up once I get bored with the 9x25 I just built. Probably second hand from someone who was misinformed at a local gun store, bought it, shot it twice, and needs the money for something "more manageable"  8)

#2
Reloading 10mm ammo / Re: favorite 200 fn lead load
October 18 2020 02:59:28 PM MDT
Lyman 40 Cal. Rifle Mould #2660169 243gr cast powder coated. Laddered up to 1020fps /561 ft. lbs. Loaded in .40S&W brass to 1.274" shot out of my Comp'd 5" 1911. Extractor won't hold it in my carbine so it chambers too far for the firing pin to reach.. That was the goal :( Either way it blows away Buffalo Bores .45ACP +P! It slams around my clubs pistol steel :) 10+1 bowling ball chucker! I call it .40 Seriously Wrecking.. Even if you had the mould, it's about 7k psi over .40S&W max.. so it's basically a .40S&W +P+ that'd surely blow up some Poly 10's!

https://www.lymanproducts.com/rifle-bullet-moulds/
403169

Loaded 9mm, .40 Cal Boolit, In .40SW Brass, 10mm

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#3
Reloading 10mm ammo / Re: Hodgdon’s Clays
August 05 2020 08:55:24 PM MDT
Alright yes, I stand corrected.. Clays is Clays and NO Good for 10mm in my book.. However Universal has been Great for me in heavies & subs.

I don't necessarily have load data to share for CLAYS, Nor did I find any in one of my many manuals, but I seen n a 10mm load book I compiled that 10mm-Reloaded has some data. Most all look on the lower end of velocities, slight to moderate primer cratering, and NCI (no charge increase) Like you said Rick, CLAYS is probably best left to the scatter guns :)
http://10mm-reloaded.com/load_data/10mmAllPowders.html

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#4
Reloading 10mm ammo / Re: Hodgdon’s Clays
August 04 2020 07:01:19 PM MDT
As Muskrat mentioned, I would not reccomend it. I have tried all sorts of loads with it and never found a compelling one.. especially with crazy pressure swings, high SD's, and mediocore accuracy. I actually had a scare with some loaded when it was winter/cooler out but still wasn't near the top end but brought em' out to shoot em' instead of pull them. It was Spring in the low 80's. Bam! Shot an ETS mag out my factory barreled glock 20 due to a case rupture. No other damage except the mag and catch. If you just want some powder puff plinking loads it could work for that, but I don't see the point. I even switched to trailboss for my .308 subs. YMMV just be cautious of col, tenths of grains, and temperature. Also never compress!

Also Unique is Amazing for cast in my experience. My first 10mm loads were OTBC Laser-cast & Unique amazingly soft shooting and accurate. On a local forum it seems most would agree unique is a top .40 load which would equate to a great 10mm cast. Happy & Safe reloading.

#5
https://gunprodeals.com/product/hi-point-1095ts-1095ts-carbine-semi-automatic-10mm-175-tb-101-polymer-skeleton-black-stk-black

$327.94 Shipped. Just back at the end of Dec. 2019 you could find them on Gunbroker shipped for $250. Occasionally I've seen a dealer on armslist offer them for $325 shipped. I've seen them on local forums here in GA for $200 quite a few times, barely shot. Seems they are demanding more money now.. But when I was considering the 1095 and HT stock it was $500 for both shipped and a free local FFL transfer.

Keep this bookmarked if you're not eager to get one and perhaps when tombston tactical gets some back in stock.. $288.99 ships free. Not sure about tax.
https://gun.deals/search/apachesolr_search/752334900104

#6
Just a quick mention on the 6.8spc brass.. Yeah, that would be a big no go in my book. I cut some down at various lengths.. .997" being the max. Reamed them to .395" (not doing so will cause bullets to be crushed and brass to be severely bulged because of 6.8spc wall thickness at base) just deep enough for bullet seating.

After testing a half dozen variations of length and reaming depth/upper wall thicknesses. I've come to the conclusion that the loss of case capacity does not justify the added strength of the brass @ the base. In one case I noted a capacity of 3.2gr less when compared to a piece of new starline brass of the same length. Therefore pressures for the same desired velocities are much much higher.. and if you were looking for something that could handle more of a beating with less support.. 6.8spc isn't gonna do it.

I'm going down the 10mm Magnum path to see if that's an option.

p.s.

I ran the 6.8spc brass numbers through quickload.. .990" 22gr case capacity 170gr precision coated bullet .595" seated @ 1.265" over 9.7gr PP =  112% fill 1547fps 8" Barrel  908fpe  47,853psi !!! 34,603psi from Multi X fired FC .988" 24.3gr capacity.
#7
I posted this back on Feb. 8th on a more local forum to me in GA. .40 sw brass loaded to 10mm oal @ subsonic speeds with GT Bullets 220gr Coated HP

Something like this.. I've been meaning to try the Sherwin Gloss Black.. GT Bullets 220gr HP. The seating depth actually works for a Lee factory crimp to put it right on the edge of a lube groove. I loaded up some at .40S&W pressure and some at 10mm.. for a 10mm. 500 ft lbs. Subsonic.


.40S&W Nickel Brass Sized & Gauged 12 Pieces Avg. .844"
Powder: MP275/Longshot
Primer: CCI No. 550 Magnum Small Pistol
Bullet: GT 220gr Stripped/Cleaned Powder Coated
Weight: 216.63gr AVG. Length: .701" AVG.
COAL: 1.260" Seating Depth .285"

.40S&W SAAMMI CASE MAX IS 35,000 PSI/10MM 37,500 PSI
SPEED OF SOUND DEG F 12 - 1064FPS 32 - 1086FPS 52 - 1108FPS 72 - 1130FPS 92 - 1151FPS SPREAD OF 65FPS

Fill. Charge Vel. Energy Pmax Pmuz Prop.Burnt B_Time % Grains fps ft.lbs psi psi % ms

70 7.36 1025 506 30720 3939 98.6 0.594 ! Near Maximum !
71 7.44 1035 515 31541 3978 98.8 0.587 ! Near Maximum !
71 7.52 1044 524 32379 4015 98.9 0.580 ! Near Maximum !
72 7.60 1053 533 33235 4051 99.1 0.573 ! Near Maximum !
73 7.68 1062 542 34109 4086 99.2 0.567 ! Near Maximum !
74 7.76 1071 552 35002 4121 99.4 0.560 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
75 7.84 1080 561 35913 4155 99.5 0.554 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
75 7.92 1089 570 36844 4187 99.6 0.548 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
76 8.00 1098 580 37795 4219 99.7 0.542 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
77 8.08 1106 589 38765 4250 99.8 0.536 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!

Both load pressures tested fed, shot, and ejected great out of my 5" 1911 & 16" PCC. Very pleased with accuracy, aside from more drop at longer ranges :)

I LOVE GT BULLETS! Powder coated and loaded all sorts of ways.. I sent out an email looking to purchase 3k unsized/unlubed last week and haven't heard anything back as of yet.. (damn virus) I have loaded the "220's" (actually 216ish) all sorts of ways. My 16" PCC Loves them at 1,350 15.-2" groups @ 50yd and Clay pigeons @ 100yd all day. I have been toying around with some other ideas and will be using various other bullets.. Most of which will be .41's sized down to .401. I have tried PP, Clays, 2400, MP275/Longshot, 800X, & NO. 9..

Here are a few links.

.41 Caliber 295 Grain Truncated Cone Bevel Base SSK
https://www.pennbullets.com/41/41-caliber.html

GT Bullets 250 Grain Wide Hollow Point bullets 41 caliber
https://www.gtbullets.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=6&products_id=47

Missouri Reloading Bullets .41 Magnum 41 Outlaw 225 Grain Round Nose Flat Point
https://www.lg-outdoors.com/Product/Details/5661099?source=A10001


I actually just traded 100 - .308 168gr SMK's & 200 New Starline 10mm Brass for 4lbs Sealed Hodgdon Universal. Quickload is showing me fantastic numbers as far as case fill vs. the subsonic velocities I want. Still lots of combos to try out, another reason to Love the 10. There's not a whole lot of info out about this kind of stuff and I never thought anyone else was as interested as I am.. Like you said, against the Grain..

Happy & Safe Reloading to you! -Ben

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#8
10mm semi-auto handguns / Re: EAA 10 conversion
March 24 2020 07:47:19 PM MDT
I wasn't sure If they were actually still making them..?? But they are huh, just on back-order? Was this verified with an email or phone call? I seen on another site or two but they were also out of stock I thought they were a discontinued Item.

I'm fairly new to using the full size mag in my compact, but honestly my pinky finger fits so well in the gap between the mag floor plate and the grip that I didn't feel like I was missing anything.. obviously not too well of a fit for you. I suppose I would give them a try if and when they become available again.. But honestly with whats going on in Italy and all over the world right now I'm not gonna hold my breath.

I understand the want and potential need, as I have a few for various mags.. I have several sleeves from Promag's 1911 extended mags.. and some for Promag 10rd'ers on my Taurus TCP PT738 that are probably still available from a seller on ebay who 3D prints them.. kinda gimmicky but the work well for the range :)  -Ben

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#9
10mm semi-auto handguns / Re: Rock Island 4.25"
March 20 2020 11:57:52 AM MDT
I'm a lefty as well, and as Rob stated I never seemed to have an issue with the ambi-safety. My gun ended up being $720 shipped to a Free FFL purchased on Technet Armory EZ-Pay.. So the price of that one on GB is pretty Good. I found a few pics on my phone and have a link to the guy I got my AIWB Boltron Holster from.. I paid $40 shipped/tax. They are now a little more. I contacted him and he made a pretty damn good fit and I just used a Harbor Freight heat gun and slowly got it to be perfect. He even left the end open on the barrel as I expressed my future desire to comp it.. It does work great with the comp as well, I just had to dremel sand/buff the open edges so the comp ports wouldn't snag.

Here's his link. Send him a message and he will respond helping you get exactly what you want. I just re-read his description and it seems it might not come with a clip any more!? Still worth a shot, more options are always nice.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Boltaron-OWB-Light-Bearing-Universal-Mount-Holsters/164083204345?hash=item26341f00f9:m:m1GKZyTsYPcE1jvI_-g_j2Q&var=463702635729

We the people make em` with lights? Maybe custom? Most likely more $$ than..

https://wethepeopleholsters.com/collections/1911-iwb-holsters/products/1911-4-commander-with-rail-only-iwb-kydex-holster-for-concealed-carry

Glad to be of assistance and if you do end up with one of these RIA's you won't be disappointed! -Ben


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#10
10mm semi-auto handguns / Re: Rock Island 4.25"
March 19 2020 06:09:08 PM MDT
Like Rob mine isn't the standard Commander.. Tac-Ultra II 51994. I polished up the internals on an already sweet trigger even running a 34# Wolff Hammer spring it blows away  my other guns. I added a Fusion Firearms Ultra Match Grade 5" Threaded Bull Barrel wearing a what was CMB (custom muzzle brake) now Rex Silentium Gun Fighter Comp.. Running a 24# Recoil spring and Wilson Flat Bottom FPS it can tamely shoot the stoutest of loads and print awesome groups. Hogue under grip rubber.. and not shown in photos a Wilson Stainless extended catch & Grip Screws (Wilson's fit these otherwise you will have a hard time finding some that do or you will have to change bushings) The ultra's fiber optic sight is awesome easy to change colors or replace.. The rear is fully adjustable, I actually had to stone mine to get it to sit down on the slide more for my POI change due to comp.

All and all for the price it is a great stock pistol you'd be hard pressed to find a better one. The length and handling is the best of both worlds. I used to CC carry it appendix in a stock setup with the light. With the comp as well, but have since moved to a Witness Poly Compact as I Live in Georgia and more often than not its lighter clothing. I set out to do exactly what I've done with mine.. I wanted 5" Ballistics and a comp without having a 12" gun :) 11+1 on  slightly modified Tripp Cobras.. The rail can hold my pistol brass catcher, because shooting 10mm is expensive.. but its so much fun ,you better be reloading :)

Funny anecdote: A few weeks ago at a local range this older couple shooting at the benches next to me.. Her shooting a .38spl him a 6" .357mag.. Me shooting this gun rapidly putting 10 shot groups in 3" circles @ 15yd same as them slowly squeezing them off into 8" bulls.. Old man asks that's no standard .45acp 1911 is it? Me: No Sir, these 10mm hand loads trump your magnum & put your wife's .38 to shame! With the benefit of capacity, blink of an eye reloads, yada yada yada..

Whether you decide to get a Commander length or not, I stand behind RIA's product and their service. -Ben





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#11
I picked one up locally off Armslist last Oct. Damn near new $300 with a box, docs, and a box of 50 factory rds. I only took it out 3 times and was sadly disappointed with how low the damn factory rear sight is. I finally got it back out looked it over and order a boatload of parts. Henning group Conefit Guiderod (with brass buffer), Henning Battlehook rear sight (they no longer make the compact and instead of a phone call or email they wrote that on the packing slip and sent a match model one! It is spot on if you bottom out the front dot in the rear), Henning Reduced Trigger Plunger Springs Set, Patriot Defense Reduced Trigger Return Spring & Reduced Sear Spring, Wolff XP EXTRACTOR SPRING, Wolff Compact XP Spring kit 18, 20, 22lb, EGW EAA Flatt Bottom Firing Pin Stop, and accidently got the wrong Wolff Hammer Springs, About to order the right ones..

Factory Trigger Pull After Polish:

Single Action: 4lb 6.9oz
Double Action: 11lb

Sear, Trigger Reset, and Plunger springs did this

Single Action: 2lbs 9.8oz! :)
Double Action: 9lbs 5.7oz!

Wolff Hammer Spring Rates:
    Reduced Power...: 13, 14 & 15 Lb.
    Factory Standard.: 16 Lb.
    Extra Power........: 17, 18, 20 & 22 Lb.

I figure just get both Reduced and Extra power. 13lb spring would give about 1lb SA pull (there are youtube videos demonstrating this), where as 20-22lb would help with insanely stout loads..

Thing is quite a handful but not uncomfortable by any means. It really fits my hand like a Glove, I've never been a Glock owner but wanted a compact higher capacity 10mm.. It also has so many advantages over any other platform by being a CZ75 clone..

Shooting some 170gr Precision Bullet Power Pistol Loads last weekend I averaged 1,290 fps 628 ft lbs.. Using the 22lb wolf spring with the brass buffer I sill had 100% slide lock on empty.. but you cannot lock it open by hand.. Also I did have a few failure to feeds because the magazine couldn't keep up with the heavy/fast recoil spring.. I'm gonna call Wolff and ask about their extra power mag springs as they list them not working with the 10mm!?!

12rd mags
https://gun.deals/search/apachesolr_search/741566111310 
14 rd mags
https://gun.deals/search/apachesolr_search/741566111273

Now that I got it back out and on target I already ordered a 12rd & 14rd for $20 ea.. Henning and J&L gunsmithing offer a mag extension and spring kit that can turn a 14 into a 20.. Spendy @ $62! But 20+1 would be kinda fun at the range and depending on how big it is.. A good backup in a vehicle/backpack carry mag.

It really is a great little gun and I'm glad I went the route I did. I tried several times to get a Glock 29 for a reasonable price.. But people tend to think the damn things used are worth more than new! I'll be at $580 with all the new hammer springs, mags, and everything thing else listed, a great deal in my book. The only other things I can think I might do would be to get one of the xtreme double action triggers that has less curve more like a SA, a 4 3/4" barrel and have it threaded for a comp, and possibly a extended firing pin and lighter firing pin spring if I settle on the feather weight 13llb hammer spring.. which I most likely wont.. with the modifications I've made I see no problem with this gun lasting me a very very long time even with occasional nuclear loads run through it.

Sorry for the random write up.. just thought I'd share my experience with mine :) -Ben
#13
Yeah Grafs is certainly hard to beat with there shipping and overall availability. I picked up some Power Pistol for the first time when they first started running the free hazmat deal since shipping amounts changed. $257 delivered for 12#'s. I got 2k 180gr HST's & 175gr Hornady FTX's about a year ago from AR and honestly just now started loading em`. Its just so hard when there's so many options out there! 125gr Barnes Tac-XP's at 1650+ riding over PP outta my comp`d 5" 1911 this last weekend. The expansion on those are not joke, perfect uniform .77" but almost only made it through 2 gallon jugs. I found those for $18.99 a box on Grab-A-Gun, tried to order 20, but only got 7 :(

I just Love finding deals on stuff that typically cost $1.75 a loaded round and having thousands to develop a load, punch paper/water jugs, and not hear your wallet cry. I'm pretty excited to see if those FTX's expand better at Carbine/Power Pistol Velocities :) Nosler 200g JHP & Hornady 200gr XTPS couldn't be stopped or caught by 4 gallon jugs @ 1,420 avg.

Too much fun :) -Ben



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#14
SPEER 200gr GOLD DOTS!
https://www.grafs.com/retail/catalog/product/productId/82549

So I seen these on Grafs but they were out of stock.. So I Called Speer to see if they actually had been released.. short answer was "NO" but they are coming out as components soon, as well as 200gr TMJ's

I had an in-stock notification for when and if they came back Saturday 3/7.. and when they did I sent out an email to Grafs which was:

Subject: Item #: SP400200GDB
Body: Hello, I set in stock notification s for this item and before I order I had a few questions. I had a Speer rep on the phone inquiring as to the release of the 200gr Speer GD .40/10mm components a few weeks back.. He stated that yes they are coming out but couldn't give me an exact date. He pulled up this items page and said the item code was one he couldn't identify and thought maybe y'all got some from a contract over run. He also said it was likely never going to be back in stock. Which is why I'm asking, are these the real deal? Do they actually qualify for the rebate? How many do you have in stock? Sorry for so many questions, I've been eagerly awaiting the availability of these and I know many others have as well. Thank you for your time, awesome company, and any answers you can provide. -Ben

Response I got:

They are the real deal and should qualify for the rebate. At the present time we have 10 boxes in stock.

Thanks for your email!

ATTN: These are currently the cheapest Speer .40/10 offerings. I cant believe they have them before anyone else and how cheap they are.. I was about to buy all 10 boxes and decided I've got enough other projectiles right now. $227.75 for 1k with GA sales tax. Spend $500 on Speer bullets by April 30th get $100 back. I already got 3,600 150gr .308 Soft Points, with rebate they were only 11.2? ea. Insane :)

Also American reloading has 180gr HST Pulldowns for 9.75? ea. right now, and that would equate to 2,333 to the 1k Speer 200 GD's price wise :) When the HST's are gone on there.. SpectreSupply on gunbroker has continuously had them for months for 10? ea. shipped

American Reloading
https://americanreloading.com/en/40-caliber-10mm-400-401/189-40-180gr-hst-500ct.html

Spectre Supply
https://www.gunbroker.com/item/860362556

If you plan on buying any Speer tis` the time of the year :)
Happy & Safe reloading..
#15
Man, I don't know where you live.. The name suggest California. But I'd hold onto that Casting equipment! I seen some fella's talking about this bill on a local forum here in GA. It applies to California and how basically they want to outlaw lead bullets completely. No self defense lead rounds, no lead at indoor shooting ranges, the list goes on.. Plus with it being election year, who knows what's gonna happen. If some gun grabbing Democrats get control they'll fail at getting our guns and go after ammunition in any way they can. 300% taxes, background checks, and even some sort of EPA fee for buying Lead bullets..

https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/billNavClient.xhtml?bill_id=201920200AB3071

Happy & Safe Reloading -Ben