I have a `90s fullsize, bought way back when, stupid cheap, brand new. Followed the whole cracked slide/frame issues and worried about it. I finally realized that for what I paid for my pistol, unless it broke right now, I'd still have a pretty low cost dollars per round launched firearm. It's still running all these years later, and I shoot it as often as possible.

I got some goodies from Hennings, notably the cone fit guide rod. I forget the site name but if you google henning's guns you'll find it.

215 @ 1300... wow! That should make that grip safety bite a little bit.

Quote from: AlinMi on August 07 2020 09:11:52 AM MDT
I have a M&P set up for one,  its a hammer.

What did you do to set it up? I have a Para Ord with a fully supported chamber; with a stiffer spring I shoot +p wo problem. I wondered what 45 Super required.

QuoteProviding the muzzle flash isn't an issue Blue Dot is a very good choice. I'd start at 8.6 grains and creep up on the 9~9.3 grain territory.

I have 28 pcs of Win cases prepped; I'll load 9 each of 8.6, 8.8 and 9 and see what my results are. After that I have a full bag of Starline to begin loading.

We're supposed to get a little bit of a cool down in a week, I'll probably get a day to go shoot then. I'll post results if there's interest. Thanks all for the helpful replies.

QuoteBlue Dot will usually provide the most accuracy and still get you to +/- 1200 fps from a 6" barrel.

My pistol is a Tanfo Witness fullsize with a 4.5" barrel. If I can safely get 1100 +/- with good accuracy I'll call that a great result. So Blue Dot it is. Thank you sirs.

I recently purchased a box of Montana Bullet Works 200gr. NOE WFN-PB Hitek coated bullets. The box says alloy is mbw#2 and they are sized .401". The coating apparently adds a thou because I carefully measured a random sampling and they all came up precisely .402".

I'm eager to start testing, so here are my questions... I have Power Pistol, HS-6 and Blue Dot on hand, are they worthy candidates or should I save my bullets until I can locate and purchase a more suitable powder? Perhaps Accurate #9 or something else?

QuoteI'm trying to get ring of fire like magnum calibers or just big flames.

QuoteIf your blowing out primers , be careful before you go boom and damage your gun/hand/etc

mmmmm... yeah I've got mixed feelings about this whole venture. Firearms are definitly fun but not toys. Maybe a toy cannon that fired wads would be a safer alternative to hot loads just for the sake of muzzle blast. Just my two, of course, you make your own calls.

I guess that's the safest bet... go through the phone firewall and talk to a rep before you order.

So does anyone know for certainty what the new configuration is exactly, for the "plain" Witness, steel, fullsize 10mm ?

Is the slide slab style like the originals and match, stocks, hunter, etc. or rounded top?
Does the frame have a light mount or not?

Looking on EAA's site they show it every which way. A video shows the rounded slide, as does the pic, but if you click on 360 view it's slab style. Written description no help, the worst part of Witness pistols is EAA, who ironically, we have to at least thank for having them at all.

QuoteI picked BE86.  I am also probably influenced by the giant jub of that powder I have

Yeah, that's a consideration for sure. I have a pretty good supply of Power Pistol; I wonder if BE-86 offers enough advantage to make the purchase worthwhile, or if I should be looking at something slower like AA#7, AA#9, Longshot?

I'm planning to load the last of my Sierra 190 gr. Tournaments, about 180 count. I'd like to pick one powder to use them up with, what is your favorite powder if you have shot these bullets before they were discontinued?

Objective is a nice balance between power and accuracy in my Witness full size steel with Henning guide rod and 20 or 22 lb spring.

That's what mine is, purchased new, years before the round slides. It's been great for many years now, the thing is built like a tank. I bought an assortment of Wolff springs and I also run a Henning sports "cone fit" guide rod. I have a lot of confidence in that pistol. If you get it, odds are you won't be disapointed.

Hello all from Texas. I lurked for a little a little while and found some interesting threads on multiple topics, I hope to be able to contribute to future conversations in a useful way.

I've been around awhile and the 10mm Auto cartridge has been on my radar from nearly its beginning. I handled a Bren 10 that was already spoken for when they came out but never managed to aquire one. Years later I bought what I consider a great pistol for the round, the Tanfo fullsize steel Witness.

I got mine early, before the slide recontour, and have never had a problem. I've read all about the cracking issue and while it gives me some little concern, I'm not so worried that I limit my shooting. I've switched to a heavier spring and purchased Henning's conefit guiderod. If my gun breaks, I won't hesitate to upgrade to a Stock III (I might anyway:).

I'm an experienced handloading geek as well, and love to read those threads... so I look forward to time spent here.