Looks like i have allot of practice ahead of me, 30 yards free hand

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Thank you, thinking i might want to save up for optics, not sure yet

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Finished testing my new 10mm loads, final load is zero bullet 180 grain jhp, Winchester primer and 9.2 grains longshot oal 1.25, best group during testing was 2 inches at 30 yards using a rest

What steal sights are you using? Looking at options, the factory sights are crap for any kind of distance shooting

I'm hunting whitetail deer mainly but if a black bear decided to say hello....

Think i should start testing at 8.8 and go to 9.5?

My order of 180 jhp from zero bullets will be here Monday. I will be using these in my glock model 40 gen 4 10mm. Going to use these as a practice hunting round in place of hornady 180 grain xtp which i will use as my hunting round. I will be using longshot for powder and Winchester large pistol primers and COL of 1.26 my research shows my powder span to be 8.5 to 9.5 all my reading says to load closer to max for hunting, i can't help think that working up the most accurate round would be best, was wondering what you guys think, my plan is to load 10 rounds each at 8.5, 8.7, 8.8 and 9.1, see what's most accurate and retest in .1 grain increments above and below that. Also not sure of best testing distance, plan to use this out to 50 yards so thinking i should test at that range