I haven't gotten an answer on the Selway bullet from their store yet but I have the guys behind the counter looking for answers.

Thats a good catch.  I think most including myself would have missed it on the first go around until attempting to drop a round in the barrel and finding it still did not go all the way in.

Quote from: REDLINE on June 10 2013 06:12:40 PM MDT

Quote from: The_Shadow on June 09 2013 01:13:06 PM MDTVelocities  1179 fps / 1244 fps

I'm mildly surprised there was a 65 FPS difference between the two, as I generally haven't seen more than about a 30 FPS spread in my own No.9 workups in charge weights ranging from 12.5-14.0 grains.  But like I said;  Mildly Surprised.

I don't have my notes with me I forgot them for the week.  I started at 11.0 grains and was at 1050 fps and worked up from there to 13 which resulted in an average almost exactly at 1200 fps.  My numbers could be off a little above I know for sure the starting and ending numbers are correct.

I was quite confused myself.  I just figured the primers would keep flattening with increased loads as I expected when reading about AA#9 but to my surprise they did not only with 1050fps- 1100 fps loads or approx. 11 grains to just under 12 grains.

Quote from: The_Shadow on June 10 2013 10:44:23 AM MDT

Quote from: doverpack12 on June 10 2013 08:19:10 AM MDT
Expansion is 0.4330 for the 13.0 grain load and goes down about 0.005 each powder increment as it decreases.

I would think you meant to write -0.0005" each powder increment as it decreases.

It is very easy to get caught up in the typing a post...

You are correct.  0.0005 increment of expansion for each powder step of 0.2 grains either up or down expansion follows with new starline brass.

I've driven past it but didn't have time to stop.  I know a few people who live down there who really like the store. 

I worked up a load using AA #9 over the weekend and at first with lower level loads my primers were being flattened and then as I increased powder charge they flattened less.

Worked up loads with 12.6, 12.8 and 13.0 grains #9 seated to 1.25".  In my G20 these chronographed at 1170, for the 12.6.  12.8 was at 1185 and 13.0 grains produced right about 1200 fps.  Now I plan on testing these last three loads for accuracy all three of them give me velocity within the range I wanted to get to.  No problems feeding or anything like that.  15 fit in the magazine just fine.  No additional pressure signs.  Primers look about the same as Winchester silvertips when I shoot them.  Expansion is 0.4330 for the 13.0 grain load and goes down about 0.005 each powder increment as it decreases.  For Underwood/Buffalo Bore/Double Tap I usually get 0.434 expansion and sometimes with Underwood I am even up to 0.4345

Stopped by the Selway Armory store today.  Its a nice small store with some great prices.  I asked about the Skull Crushing Hollow Point bullet and the young guy working said he was fairly new and wasn't around when they last sold them.  He is going to check into it and hopefully have an answer next Friday when I plan to stop in again and check what the got for the week.

Powder was AA #9 and OAL 1.25" about one turn of crimp past just touching the brass.

Loaded a few of the 205 WFNGC tonight.  No leading in the barrel worked up to 12.3 grains and was at 1160 fps plan on going a little farther pressure looks good so far.  Primers seem to be inconsistent.  Sometimes one or two will flatten and the rest will still be nice and rounded.  Not much expansion so far. 

My measurement was in between the lube grooves on the bullet so it may be 0.001 as you said the minimum should be with the gas check.  I will load one bullet with a starting load and check for leading after each successive shot then as I work up a load.  Thanks for your help and information.  If the bullet turns out to be too small I will talk with the owner and see if I can have him size some slightly larger for me to try.

Should it be larger or smaller. I really don't know much about lead bullets or hardcast

Had a chance to slug the barrel.  Grooves 0.402 Lands 0.399 Going Ballistic Bullet 0.4025

Get either RCBS, Hornady or Lee and use the money you save over buying Redding on a pound of powder.  They all work exactly the same.  I have many RCBS, Hornady and Lee dies that produce great ammunition and I see no reason to pay more for Redding.