Quote from: Overkill338 on November 16 2018 12:22:06 PM MST

Quote from: Jason B. on November 15 2018 09:01:37 AM MST
Thanks for the numbers!

I carry a G29 and have always felt the Hornady Custom 155 was a hot load, it's also one I carry often.

Are those new lots of UW ammo? Specifically the 200 XTP's?

Yes, but I found no difference in the old brass cases XTPs and the newer nickel cased stuff.

About a year ago I purchased some 200 XTP's and some FMJ's then a few months later ordered some more. The 200 gr loads purchased later felt much softer, had a noticeable reduction in report and almost no flash. All of this was very unlike my first experience with 200 gr UW loads which were loud, snappy, had lots of flash and left me bruised and sore. I've only ever experienced the Nickel case loadings but from what I understand they changed powders and this was the reason for my experience (explanation from Underwood).

I have seen several youtube vids of the 200 XTP's shooting much slower than they once did with earlier videos so to see 1163 and 1244 I was a bit surprised.

Thanks for the review of the S&B ammo. I use this ammo for range practice and I'm a little surprised at the velocity, I thought it would be a little more. They feel fairly warm from my 29 and more like my UW 200 XTP load. Either way, they are accurate and cheap.

Underwood 200 XTP's are controllable and accurate. Personally, I feel the XTP is the ideal bullet for 10mm and tends to perform better when pushed hard. The Hornady Custom 155 XTP is also a hot load and will hit stated velocity from the 29, one of my preferred carry loads.

Thanks for the numbers!

I carry a G29 and have always felt the Hornady Custom 155 was a hot load, it's also one I carry often.

Are those new lots of UW ammo? Specifically the 200 XTP's?

Quote from: druryj on July 31 2018 03:55:36 PM MDT
I'm fairly new to 10MM; I've found the S&B 180 gr FMJ to be fairly powerful, more so that Remington, PPU, or Armscor.  The Sig 180 gr FMJ is a little hotter but almost twice as expensive as S&B. I don't have the capability to load my own; as long as I'm finding the S&B for around $15 per box of 50, I think I'm a happy camper.


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I know the S&B is not rated that high but out of my G29 it feels stout and very similar to my UW 200 xtp. At roughly $15 a box I'm gonna keep shooting it.

Anyone plan a gel test of this anytime soon?

Got an Overwatch TAC trigger and 21lb Wolff recoil spring for my Glock 29. I was also gifted a Tikka light stainless LH bolt action with Vortex 4-12 scope chambered in .300 Win Mag by the future wife.

I switch between the Hornady Custom 155gr xtp and Underwood 200gr xtp.

The Hornady 155gr is extremely accurate and run around 1250 fps from the G29 from what I gather. They make a big bang but have light felt recoil which makes follow-up shots easy. Personally, I think these will handle any two leg targets.

The Underwood 200gr xtp is also very accurate and IMO easy to control because there is less muzzle flip than the lighter grain loads. I was also concerned with expansion after seeing a few videos but while out last month I shot an old pumpkin (little soft) with the UW 200gr xtp and there was great expansion and energy dump. It was lifted off the table and pushed back about a foot before falling on the ground. Entrance hole was .400 but the exit was about 2+ inches. I typically carry these in my spare mags in case the 155's need help.

I think the only reason I don't carry the 200gr rounds exclusively is because they make the gun noticably more heavy on the belt. I find it more comfortable to carry loaded with 155gr.

Thanks for all the excellent responses!

The Shadow,

Single stage was my first thought as I was looking at a Hornady Lock-n-Load Classic Kit but saw the Lee progressive for about $100 less which peaked my interest. Like I said, I used a Lee progressive press before but this time I'm not loading weak or for round count so I think a single stage where I can get quality over quantity would be best. I want to match bullet weights and have powder measured to the exact grain so at this point I think a progressive press is out the window.

sqlbullet,

Thank you for all the comparisons and info, it was very helpful.

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What brought me to this point is I have this weird issue with 180 grain ammo and that is all I can really find for target shooting. My problem is, after a mag it looks like I hit the target with 12ga OO buck and I do not know why. If I really watch my trigger control, grip and breathing I can kinda get in the 10 ring but more often than not I'm all over the place. Now, switch that up to 155gr or more so 200gr and its like I have a laser beam in my hand keeping groups momma would be proud of. Its also the bullet weights I carry for SD so I would like to practice with the same weights and power factor.

So, I guess its now time to decide on my single stage options. As mentioned, I was looking at the Hornady kit but I have seen a few rec's for the RCBS... opinions of the two?

Also, this will basically be just for 10mm, my 9mm is too easy to just buy 1000 rounds and my .357 Sig was way too much of a PITA to start reloading again. I'm not much of a rifle shooter so this will pretty much be a dedicated 10mm Auto setup.

Some years ago when I was shooting USPSA I did a fair amount of reloading with my shooting buddy but it was all his stuff. Fast forward to present day and I find myself wanting to get back into reloading thanks to my new found love with the 10mm.

Like most that just get into something new I have no idea where to start or what reviews to believe so here I am.

I used a Lee progressive press before and didn't have any issues with it's performance. I see they make a Pro 1000 model that is pre setup for loading 10mm, would this be a good way to start?

I'm not looking to load thousands of rounds just a few hundred here and there for target and hunting purposes.

Other questions...
Any accessories I'm not thinking of?
Anything to stay away from?

Quote from: Spudmeister on September 21 2017 08:32:08 AM MDT
Thanks.  That is very good news.  The 155gr XTP offers a very good level of penetration, expansion and holds together well when run fast.  As a base, the Hornady factory 155gr XTP's did 1,274 fps in my OEM G29 and 1,338 fps in my OEM G20.

Interesting, I picked up a box of these to test out in my G29, I carry the underwood offering currently. I would like to see a chrono video of these through a G29, 1,274 is impressive but with it listed at 1,265 on the box it seems a little too good to be true.

Back at the range yesterday with some Sellior & Bellot 180gr ammo and my new Truglo Tritium Pro sights. After the last range report I put Snake Eye's sights on my G29 and liked them at first but after an outdoor shoot I found them to block the sight picture more than they defined it. So, thinking back on my days of competition shooting I wanted a serrated rear and a large bright front sight, I found the Truglo Tritium Pro sights and I decided to give them a try. Very nice and priced right but I needed to see if they were in the proper position and accurate.

I was expecting the S&B loads to be a little lighter after watching some velocity test putting them at just a touch over 1000fps but was kinda surprised these thumped pretty hard out of my G29, some even giving a little muzzle flash. I'm still not the most accurate with the 180gr load but dialed it in after a few mags enough to make sure my sights were true.

Overall, it was good target ammo at a good price and the sights were easy to shoot and fast on target with good sight picture. I would recommend both to anyone.

Thanks,

One thing that I was a bit concerned about was the case bulge I was seeing with all the loadings. Is it normal to have a little case bulge running the looser chamber of the Glock?

Hello everyone! First post and new 10mm addict.

I recently purchased a Gen4 Glock 29 as my EDC carry gun, I normally carry a Gen4 19 but wanted something with more power. After my purchase I wanted to put a few rounds down range so I purchased some overpriced Federal AE ammo and was very happy with the accuracy and the very manageable recoil of the weapon. I started looking into the various 10mm loads only to find out the Federal AE was a rather weak load so naturally I wanted to shoot some "full power" loads.

I purchased some Hornady 180gr XTP ammo with the gun but knowing that a shorter barrel will reduce velocities I started to research an ideal carry load for SD. The 10mm has opened my eyes to the excellent performance of the XTP bullet so I picked up some Underwood Ammo in,

155gr XTP
180gr XTP
200gr XTP
And for fun, 135gr Nosler

I started out with the Hornady Custom 180gr XTP rounds, they had a stout recoil and it might have been my excitement but I was all over the target with these rounds. Although, this lack of accuracy with the 180gr rounds continued with the Underwood ammo too. The fun really came when I loaded up some 135gr Nosler's, first round out gave a huge white flash and thunderous crack and while completely shocked at the power of this round I couldn't help but to giggle like a little girl. I simply couldn't believe the muzzle blast and cannon like sound coming from this little (ish) gun.

Curious of the other rounds I decided to move up in weight to the 155gr XTP loads and again I get a similar result as the Nosler rounds but a little more felt recoil and was the first round to strike exactly where my sights were pointed. The 180gr Underwood XTP's were noticeably hotter than the Factory Hornady loadings but for some reason I was having a hard time making accurate shots with that bullet weight. The 180gr Underwood rounds had about half the muzzle flash as the first two lighter and faster rounds but still had to be moving along as it gave a loud crack that I felt in my chest and ground. Lastly, was the 200gr XTP, these were much more tame and had almost no muzzle flash but still a stout felt recoil thanks to that big chunk of lead going down the tube. The 200gr XTP's shot very well holding a very tight group that was only matched by the 155 XTP's and the 135gr Nosler's.

In conclusion I have decided on the Underwood 155gr XTP as my main carry load. My accuracy shooting this loading was only matched by the 200gr XTP rounds but with my concern of over penetration on two legged aggressors the 155gr rounds take the win. The 200gr rounds are going in the spare mag and will probably be my carry loads for the woods. Overall, I am very impressed by underwood ammo and the Glock 29, makes me want more 10mm guns and gives me a good reason to start hand loading again 


P.S. Big thanks to everyone here and all the helpful information that aided in the above test. Looking forward to more learning and sharing.

Thanks,
Jason