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#1
So just got off the range with my new EAA and i must say i'm in love, I liked my buddys dan but this thing is a whole new level of like, Never had a gun that fit my hand this well before much less one as smooth as this one, God forbid one i could get bullseyed after 10 shots with a 5 inch pattern at 50 yard.

Ended up using some S&B as that was all the local places carried because my sportsmens order didnt show up today, Still im glad you guys talked me into the EAA instead of a Colt, I test fired that one as well since i was there and didn't like it nearly as much.
#2
Sorry for the late reply i only just bought my 10mm today, You know how it goes, First the car breaks down then doctors bills followed by the bathroom roof colapseing because of a leak from a pipe, then the lawnmower dies, Then the car breaks down again blah, Anyway it should show up at the local ffl shop in a day or 2 when it ships, I went with the EAA steel for my first 10mm but now i gotta decide a good 10mm ammo to use as both my carry ammo and to practice play with my new family member until i can get dies and brass for my reloading kit, any recomendations?

I was thinking just armscor or seller 180 grain as a good mix between cpr and stopping power.
#3
Quote from: TonyRumore on August 23 2016 05:08:43 PM MDT
I bought a Delta Elite when they first came out in the 80's.  I've owned hundreds of guns in my time, and it was by far the least accurate gun I have ever owned.  The thing shot patterns, not groups.  I imagine the new ones must be better...........

I also have a large frame steel Witness.  What I like about the Witness most is the fact that I can order all sorts of different barrels and slides from EAA and configure it anyway I like.  I can convert mine to 22LR, 9mm, 357 Sig, 40 SW, 10mm, 40 Super, and 45 ACP. 

Tony



Very nice! That was something i didnt know you could do and is one hell of a way to increase the size of my rather small collection without breaking the bank, I should be getting my witness in a few weeks here when im back from this otr trip and ill post images.

Also at mcc it was infact a glock 26 i checked today.
#4
Quote from: macc283 on August 22 2016 03:50:47 PM MDT
What Glock did you own that blew up?

I didnt own it i was test firing a brand new one at the range getting ready to buy it, I believe it was a glock 26, I do remimber it was a 9mm, But it was a while ago and my mom was handing me guns to try as for my 18th she was getting me a handgun so im not 100% sure off the top of my head ill ask her next time i talk to her.

But using the ammo the shop provided the entire left side turned into a frag granade and turned the entire top of my hand into hamburger and half severed 2 fingers and the tip of my right thumb, as i said before not the best introduction to handguns.
#5
Quote from: Sneed on August 20 2016 05:19:53 PM MDT
Even if the Colt was just as good as the Witness the price difference is substantial. As a small dealer I would never want to deal with Colt on any issue. You ought to consider the polymer Witness as well. You can also carry a Witness cocked and locked or in da mode locked or not.

Ill pass on the polymer frame, haveing my hand turned into hamburger by a polymer glock that exploded tends to give me a very very low opinion of polymer in general, Call me a coward but every time i see a polymer frame gun all i see is my hand after the last polymer gun i tried, Besides im used to carrying around 50 pounds plus of gear for 12+ hours thanks to my last job so a 2 pound metal gun is not a big issue especally because i use a small of the back carry belt that even when pressing looks like a back brace.

As for the rest of you thanks for your opinions! I have it narrowed doen to the witness elite match steel for $728 or witness full size steel for $506 at the local gun shop, As far as i can find these are good prices but i cant decide if the match is worth the extra $200 or not.

What do you folks think?
#6
Quote from: Intercooler on August 19 2016 06:37:43 PM MDT
  I have no idea where you read those reviews (can you share?). Most of us that have been around the 10mm for a while know which has the better chance of blowing up on you... hint hint below



   Unless you get some bad ammo the EAA piece will mow through it all. The Delta will work too if you keep tabs on it looking at your spent shell casings.

    Which EAA piece are you looking at? Many people here carry them it seems.

Sure

https://thefiringline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=484517

http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_5_4/130199_Anybody_have_a_E_A_A___10mm_Witness_Tanfoglio_.html

And a few others i cant find right now, As for the colt im kinda suprised to be honest ive always heard colt 1911s were some of the best you could get, Well that solved which gun im getting.

Quote from: blaster on August 19 2016 07:04:24 PM MDT
I went with the Witness steel and love it! it is actually about the same size as my full size 1911 .45 acp but a tad thicker. the stuff you heard about Witness cracking is about some long ago discontinued model. the newer ones are able to handle the hottest ammo.

Ok sounds good, The 2 i am looking at are the witness steel full size or the witness elite match, Though im unsure if the extra $250 is worth it for the match, This is actully going to be a replacement for my tarurs pt99af for CC, As much as i love my 99 its pretty worn out at this point and while im sure it has many more years of life i would rather have something new and with a bigger punch especally with crime going through the roof in my area.
#7
General Discussion / Re: Introductions
August 20 2016 01:11:51 AM MDT
Quote from: The_Shadow on August 19 2016 08:16:52 PM MDT
Welcome to the forum Arctic Fox, It seems you have already had the 10mm experience so that's a plus.  Someday maybe we can hear of the story of
QuoteI don't get another fun glocknade blowing my hand open,
if you care to talk about that.  Handloading is a big plus to help with the performance of the 10mm!

Best regards!  :D

Pretty simple story really one of the first guns i ever picked up was a glock 9mm, I think it was a glock 26 its been a while so im not sure, My mom was picking them for me to try them out so yea......Anyway I was trying guns out at the store for my 18th as mom wanted me to have a handgun and i decided to test fire said glock, Well the poly frame decided to fail on the left side and blew the entire side of the gun apart and tore the entire top of my hand apart and half severed 2 fingers and almost my right thumb tip as well.

I have a very poor opinion of polymer frames in general and glocks in particular, Not the best introduction to handguns.

As for hand loading i just got most of the equipment and ive only turned out a couple of 9mm rounds so far so im totally new to it but eager to learn.
#8
So i have been wanting to get my hands on a 10mm for a while ever since a friend got me hooked with his dan wesson, Sadly i can not afford $3300 to get the same one i was introduced to but i have narrowed it down to either a Colt delta or the EAA steel Tanfoglio, Im leaning towards the EAA for the higher compacity mag and lower price, But im also torn because the delta would make a better carry gun then my battered old taurus pt99 that i currently use and seems an all around better pistol even if its right on the edge of what i can afford.

My big concern with the EAA is the few reviews i have found have been mixed with a few saying even in steel they tend to crack under normal pressure loads god forbid +p and as I've already had a glock explode in my hands and half remove a few fingers im a bit leery of any gun with a reputaion to explode to be entirely honest but figure i will ask people here who actully own one and know about them.

I've also seen an Armscor in 10mm but know nothing of them if anyone has an opinion?

Anyway any advice is appreacted greatly!
#9
General Discussion / Re: Introductions
August 19 2016 05:48:43 PM MDT
So another newb to the fourms here, Im terrible at these things but my name is Arctic from the icy planes of hell, Better known as north dakota, Im a trucker who happens to be a gun loving conservitive millennial who prefers hard work to handouts (yes a few of us exist), Im just getting into 10mm after a friend loaned me his and got me hooked and am currently torn between a colt delta or an eaa witness but will be picking one up in a few weeks when i get in from my current otr trip.

Found this forum when searching for reviews on both the eaa and colt to make sure i dont get another fun glocknade blowing my hand open, Hope to be a productive member or at least an amuseing one and compare notes on reloading 10mm ammo once i get the proper dies and brass.