Wow, thanks for pointing out this site! 

They've got some interesting loads in other calibers.  I am particularly excited to see they are offering 44 Special 200 grain Gold Dots at 1020 fps.  That's a very close match to the Speer 44 mag short barrel load that I believe has been discontinued, but is a big favorite of mine.

I will be watching this site for other offerings.  I would be particularly interested in a 10mm 165 grain Gold Dot or Golden Saber at around 1200-1300 fps.  It would be a little bit faster than the 40 S&W, but not in that 1400 fps range that seems to over-drive those bullets.

I saw in some SHOT Show announcements that Winchester is offering new 10mm ammo intended for personal defense (not the old Silvertip).  The marketing materials say it's a 180 grain bonded bullet at 1240 fps.  Very interesting. 

https://winchester.com/Products/Ammunition/Handgun/Defender/S10MMPDB

I was perusing the Reeds site, and noticed that they've got 10mm reduced recoil ammo:

http://shop.reedsammo.com/10mm-Reduced-Recoil_c366.htm

I really like the idea of a 165 grain Gold Dot at 1200 fps for a defense load.  Just a little bit faster than the speed for which the bullet was presumably designed (i.e., in a 40 S&W, around 1150 fps).

Does anyone have any experience with this ammo?  I'm about to order some and chrono it, but thought I'd check here first.  Thanks.

That is pretty slick.

I use a Theis Hybrid Holster that is very comfortable.  I'm a big fan of the hybrid format.  However, thanks to a Midway USA gift certificate I got for Christmas, I've got a Galco Summer Comfort on the way, to try out that form of holster.

If I fall in love with the Galco, later on I will invest in a Milt Sparks Summer Special.     

Quote from: BRL on January 03 2018 04:12:19 AM MST
We think alike! 

Had the G29 and liked its concealability but thought the recoil was snappy.

Got this G20 new in Nov. of 2002, fired a box of 50 rounds out of it and broke out the hacksaw.

Been GREAT ever since! 

That is outstanding!  I sure like mine and wish I would've done this years ago.. 

The experiment turned out well.  It took quite a while to get the grip sized correctly, taking off just a little bit at a time until a G29 mag would finally seat.  Hearing that "click" was a great feeling.

It has a bit more felt recoil with the shorter grip, but adding the Pearce finger extension helps keep it controllable.  Adding an ISMI 24 pound recoil spring also made a big difference.  This target was shot at 13 yards with medium level 180 grain handloads (at about 1100 fps). 

However, the difference in concealability is huge.  I always carry in an IWB, and this hides about as easily as a G26.

I was a bit nervous taking this project on, but I am very pleased with the results.

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Man, that stinks.  Now that I've started messing with Glock frames, I'm noticing that there are a lot of new Glock frames coming up for sale that weren't there before.  Some are going for pretty cheap prices, too, especially those in the 17/22/31 size. 

This was the final version of the 26L.  I was very happy with how it turned out.

I appreciate your guys' feedback.  I will get back with you on how the 29L project turned out.  Thanks so much.


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This was after a fair amount of very careful Dremel work and sanding on the 26L.


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After a lot of measuring, this was the first major cut on the 26L.  No turning back now.

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I just got word that the Glock 20 frame is shipping today.  So it will probably be a couple of weeks before I can get to chopping it down. 

In the meanwhile, I will try to post photos of how it went with my "26L".  Actually, it's even more of a Frankenstein project than I originally mentioned.  The pistol originally started life as a Glock 23, but I dropped in a 9mm conversion barrel and swapped out all the internals to make it a 9mm.




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About a year ago, I decided to reduce the grip on a Glock 19 to the size of a Glock 26.  I bought a used frame, spent a Saturday afternoon with a Dremel, and it turned out great.  I've been very happy with it.  Reducing the grip by a little more than an inch made a huge difference in concealability.  The slightly longer slide seems to improve both practical accuracy and recoil over a regular Glock 26.

So now, I'm going to try the same thing with a Gen 3 Glock 20.  I've got a new frame coming in which wasn't very expensive, and my plan is to reduce the length of the grip to that of a Glock 29. 

My goal is to make the Glock 20 more concealable.  By Glock's measurements, the height of a 29 is 4.45 inches.  For comparison, the height of a 20 is 5.47 inches, and the height of a 26 is 4.17 inches.  I will add the Pearce pinky extensions to the Glock 29 mags for more control.  I found that on my "19-26", the Pearce extension increases control, but doesn't affect concealability (because the extension adds length on only the bottom of the grip, not the top, and the top is the part that usually prints).

My question is, does anyone have any experience with a Glock 20 that's had the grip reduced to the size of a 29?

I normally shoot and carry ammo that's 180 grains with velocity around 1150 fps.  I'm expecting an increase in felt recoil, but was curious if anyone had any actual experience.  I am also curious if I can expect any additional problems, like a decrease in reliability.  The ammo I shoot and carry in the 20 right now is as reliable as the sunrise.

Thanks for any input you might have.

Hi Everyone,

I've been lurking here for years, thought I should finally introduce myself.  I'm an ordinary guy in Middle Tennessee, with a strong interest in the 10mm.  Been firing a Glock 20 Gen 3 for about 7 years.  Look forward to interacting more here.


Thanks,

TN Jed