Pretty sure he just blew him off. I told him to take the broken extractor back to the guy and if he really "missed" it then I'm sure he will try and compensate him. Just to keep a good rep.

So upon disassembly and inspection I found the extractor is broken. New part on order and I am giving the broken piece to my BIL to take back to the Smith and get his money back. Thanks for the help Shadow

So I went shooting with my BIL yesterday and he just picked up a Gen 2 G17. It is failing to extract about every tenth round. The case is stopped 3/4 of the way out of the chamber with the next round in the mag pushing up on it from the bottom.  All the FTEs happened with WWB 115gr factory ammo. We did run 50 of my reloads through it with zero failures.

He took it to a Smith locally who charged him $50 and said there was nothing wrong with it. I told him that I would look at it, my guns nothing experience comes from 1911s which are different but the same theory.

Is this a regular occurrence?  Can someone direct me to the parts to replace if any?  Do you guys need more info or pictures?

Thanks
Jeff

Quote from: REDLINE on June 02 2013 06:40:03 PM MDT

Quote from: Bro KV on June 02 2013 04:54:29 PM MDT
I load 9mm, 40/10mm, 45 and 223. Just ordered a Super 1050, Ponsness/Warren auto drive with Mr Bulletfeeder system. Gonna be fully automated.  Gonna go nicely with my XL650 and Forster Co-Ax

Wow, that's awesome.  What rounds will the 1050 be set up to load?

For now it'll be setup in 9mm and 223 expanding to 30.06/308

I load 9mm, 40/10mm, 45 and 223. Just ordered a Super 1050, Ponsness/Warren auto drive with Mr Bulletfeeder system. Gonna be fully automated.  Gonna go nicely with my XL650 and Forster Co-Ax

So is this condition relevant to Glocks?

The Wilson Rep is saying that early unlock/out of battery cannot cause case failure. Not saying that is what happened in this particular situation but it can happen. Am I wrong here?

The owner states that it has the stock recoil spring 22# with 1000 rounds down the pipe I believe.

Quote from: Intercooler on April 21 2013 04:57:49 PM MDT
Bro,

      Can you ask what MFG and spring rating he is running?

Done and waiting for a reply

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Quote from: SCS1911;4476152So to address the phone call from Kevin today.

He was very professional as well as concerned for both his customer as well as his product.

I described the events that happened and he immediately asked if there was damage done to the pistol and that he would reimburse me for any repair/work that was needed.

We narrowed the loads down to a patch that I had purchased last July.  Since I store my range ammo in 50 cal ammo cans I can't send him the boxed ammo.

He wants me to ship him the ammo in question and he will replace/reimburse me for it.

He did state that at the end of last year they had decreased the pressures in the 180 grain loads (as well as other loads) while trying to keep velocity up.  That was more reassuring that the ammo I have bought this year has less pressure and less risk of this occurring again.

He wanted to test some of the ammo in question, so as to learn something from it.

He said that are constantly checking and rechecking their loads and pressures so that they are putting out the best ammo possible.

All in all it was a great interaction.  Kevin is a stand up guy and runs an equally stand up company, especially since their ammo prices have not changed since all the panic buying.

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Quote from: SCS1911;4476133The next set of pictures show just the 1911 barrels and the Underwood ammo in an upright chamber as well as the "blown out" round in the Hunter's chamber.











That was a tight fit to place the blown out round in the chamber since there was expansion of the case.

Response from OP

Quote from: SCS1911;4476124Alright, I have a bunch of pictures and info from Kevin (who called me today).

First the pictures for every one to see and then I will address the call.

So I field stripped the Hunter (which has ~1,000 rounds through it) as well as a few of my other 10mm pistols and took side by side photos of the barrels.



1) The WC Hunter with ~1000 round count
2) WC TE also ~1,000 round count
3) NHC Heine long slide ~5-600 round count
4) Stock Glock 20 barrel ~2-300 round count
5) KKM Glock 20 barrel 5-600 round count





These two show the barrels with the Underwood 180 grain TMJ rounds in the chambers and the ramp area.





The above two pictures show the barrels with WC rounds in the chambers.

Quote from: Intercooler on April 21 2013 01:34:00 PM MDT
Bro,

        That thread has went silent and none of my posts made it. Can you ask the round count on that Hunter? It looks like it hasn't been used and I know how my DW was new. I wouldn't and didn't try Kevin's ammo in it until I knew it was broken in and functioning as it should.

Will do

Bumped it. 

Quote from: Intercooler on April 21 2013 08:46:34 AM MDT
   I registered and posted a couple of questions there but says waiting for moderator approval. Do we have a WC owner here that can do a support photo?

Without seeing some pics of what that barrel and setup is all about it could be anything. The ammo needs pulled down to see where it is and were these the first two or did the ones prior have bulges but didn't bust?

What happens if the WC barrel is way tight on the brass? Could this left the round hanging out like that to expose the weak area?

I posted the request also for more photos.

Thought I'd share

http://forums.1911forum.com/showthread.php?t=414533