For personal protection? I honestly think that .40 S&W is excellent for that task so "weak" 10mm loads are fine. I believe that the cost in muzzle blast and recoil isn't worth the gain in terminal effect for human targets. It's a lot more useful for woods defense.

Yeah, I saw that. Not sure if it was one of the "petals" or the core. In any case, I wouldn't count on it. Even if the core could go a perfect 14", if it takes a wonky curved path, that doesn't help you dig into the vitals of a bad guy.

That's pretty funny. I'll double check the packaging and pull a bullet, but 125 gr makes sense.

Quote from: Ramjet on January 17 2016 03:07:56 PM MST

Quote from: Raggedyman on September 13 2015 12:41:48 PM MDT

Perfect for SD purposes in populated areas and it is devastating on game more so than it shows in gel....

Aboslutely not. The penetration is totally inadequate for any defensive purpose and inhumane for animals larger than a coyote.

Let me fine tune that:

Instant check system available online for anyone to use for any reason for a nominal fee (say $5?). System only reports pass or fail on prohibited possessor status. The person being checked receives notification by mail (based on DMV records), or email if they opt in, that they were checked and the full name of the person or corporation performing the check.

No one is required to keep any records or the transaction or check, but it is encouraged. If it can be proven that you sold a gun to a prohibited possessor and you do not have a record of the check, you can go to prison.

This system still allows transfers between strangers and a reasonable way to check their background. The fee and automatic disclosure deters abuse. A person can sell to a trusted friend of family without performing a check and not break the law.

It's also worth noting that if the tax were reduced, they might be able to collect a lot more revenue.

If a "tumble" peeled the coating off the plate, you're probably dead. Those coatings are very hard to remove.

Ceramic plates aren't going to be reduced to a bag of gravel from a trip and fall, either, though.

Bills are introduced all the time. This doesn't have much chance of getting through. I believe that the federal government has no Constitutional authority to regulate silencers, but I don't think those laws are going to change any time soon. What would be nice is if they would at least fast track Form 1 and Form 4 applications from applicants who have already been previously vetted.

Spartan Armor Systems Armaply ATC level III+ steel plate shot with five rounds of 5.56mm Black Hills 50 gr TSX fired from a 20" Colt AR-15 A2 with an approximate velocity of 3,542. Feel free to make your predictions before watching the test.


https://youtu.be/oKyY2RaMH3Y

Looks about like it did when I tested it. I'm sure that adding the word "tactical" to the box increased the dynamic killification by a factor of eleventy, though.