Shadow, I just watched that Colt pro shooting event you posted. I had never viewed it before. Great stuff. The questions you asked earlier are correct. 9x25 does prefer slower burning propellants to maximize the compensator. Rob, ended up putting side holes in the compensator to keep the muzzle from going down too far. They ended up using Winchester 296, and Hodgdon H110 for most loads. They were also experimenting, with Hodgdon H108, which is a surplus, 30 carbine powder. Arnt gave me some to try but I have not used it yet.

Shadow, the drawings, look like the real thing. The loading data, is not my hand writing, so my guess, is Jay Phillips is the one who supplied this info. He was the person, experimenting and loading for Rob Leatham, at the timeline I see listed.

Shadow, I have never shot competition, in my life. Yes, I shoot a lot, but not competition. I bought a Bo Clerke 38/45 conversion to go in my 1911, from a friend of mine. I was impressed with how well it performed. Working at Dillon, and the guys, trying to meet major power factor with 38 super, were complaining that our dies were not good. Well the problem was, they were overloading the 38 super, and blowing the web completely out at the base of the case. Much like .40 cal Glock fired brass does today. I decided that 10mm was the perfect case to neck down, because, the brass was originally designed to handle 44,000 psi. We ordered a 38 super barrel to fit Eric Harvey's 1911. I had Xavier Gonzales, draw my design to send to JGS for reamers to be made. I built the prototype on a WW2 1911. It actually worked using the 45 ACP magazine, and no change to the slide face, other than a new extractor. Then I proved it worked. All of this happened in 1987 to 1988. In 1992 or 1993 Nyle Leatham, came back from the world shoot in Australia, he handed me a cartridge very similar to mine. I believe it was called 9mm super G. I reached in my desk drawer at work and pulled out my cartridge, and told him, I built my version several years ago. He told me Rob wanted to experiment with it, so I handed him the reamers, for Rob to take back to Springfield Armory. Rob Leatham is the one who took the cartridge, to the next level.

Shadow, the Coonan, might be a good choice. I know the magazine is built for a rimmed cartridge, so I wonder how it will do with a rimless cartridge?

Erik, if I was starting this project today, I would be looking at a Desert Eagle in 357 Magnum. It would be much easier to convert. Only requirements should be a reamer, to open up the chamber. And set of dies to load 9x30.

Erik, my AMT Auto Mag 3 is one of a kind, built for me, by AMT about 1993. They were excited to do the project. I sent the pistol, back to them, a few times. They were working with some Hollywood film makers about the possibility of using it in a film. It never came together. Original Auto Mag 3 are in 9mm Winchester Magnum, or 30 Carbine. The bolt face is smaller, and the magazines are smaller. You would have to find a gunsmith, willing to take the job on. With Amt out of business, parts can be difficult to find. High Standard, now owns what is left of AMT. They don't list many parts for this pistol. They seem to be more focused on the 22 caliber pistols. Sorry I'm not able to help you. Good luck! Randy

I had a great time at philmont. I'll be happy to answer most questions, that are asked. I still load and shoot 9x25. I do not own a Glock in this caliber.

Gentlemen, I'm currently at Philmont Boy Scout ranch in New Mexico. Training them to reload and shoot. I have limited cell service here. I'll get back on here when I get home. I'm am employed at Dillon Precision.

Gentlemen, I built 9x25 in 1988 and built the 9x30 in 1993. I enjoy reading your posts. At some point I'll post some photos for you on here. Shadow, I have followed several of your posts, over the years, thanks for all you have done to keep this cartridge alive and well.