Quote from: cmtmike on October 26 2015 09:33:58 AM MDT
hammeredbean,

I loaded up some of the same bullets as you list but I started at 11.5 of AA#9.  I'm still working out my oal for the Glock 29 and 1911.  Velocities were about 1150 for both and brass looked fine. What has me troubled is after 10 rounds through each weapon, action and barrel had a layer of soot and looked to be some unburned powder in both.  Did you find the load you listed to be dirty?  I didn't use magnum primers but am considering it with this powder.

I should note that I was using a 4.2" Wolf barrel in the 29.

I didn't notice any un-burned powder in my gun. My COAL is 1.255 I believe.  It burned very clean for me with very little soot.  I was very cautious about the lead in my factory barrel, so I fired a few rounds at a time, then inspected the "lead build up" and fired more..then repeated.  After several rounds I noticed that after the 1st 2-3 shots the level of fouling in the barrel never got worse.  Then I was also pleasantly surprised to discover that a brush dipped in Hoppes #9 and a few passes and the bore was shiny.  I figured that most of the fouling I saw was bullet lube....  Since then I have only shot a few at a time (to save money).  I have intentionally cleaned it with only a corn dog stick and a napkin/solvent to verify that it isn't lead...rather bullet lube that I see in the barrel.  I suppose it could be some lead too, but after 50 rounds, just a couple of passes with a brush is all it takes to clean it.

In the future, I want to get some Dawson Precision adjustable sights and use sand bags to really fine tune things....this load shot so high in my gun, I have filed the rear sight to a nub to compensate.  I killed a deer with the load last year, gonna kill a few more this year with it too.  It doesn't do anything but punch a hole.  But punch a hole it will do!  I hope this helps.  FWIW, the Accurate #9 is the cleanest, best smelling powder I have ever shot.....

On a side note....In the same Glock 29....6.5 gr of power pistol with a 165 gr plated bullet has squelched any desire of mine to ever use a 22 pistol....It is quiet, slow, and VERY accurate...and best of all, it dumps the brass at my feet (barely cycles).  If you want a real nice bunny fart load to introduce a new shooter....THAT is the load.  It is a start load for .40 cal loaded to 1.255 COAL in my 10mm brass..... it is fun for plinking. 

If it is any help to you or others reading this, I load the 11.8 gr of AA#9 that Shadow posted.  I shoot it from a stock barrel in a G29.  The bullet is the 200 gr lead TC from Rim Rock.  I like this load better than some of the lighter faster ones.  Those seem to have more muzzle blast than I like.  There is no issues of lead build up in my gun.  Streaks appear after the first shot....but they never get worse in my gun....I have used a napkin and Hoppes #9 afterwards and it cleans up shiny....so maybe most of the stuff I see is actually lube.  I have shot between 50-100 rounds at a time.  Same results....This load does not deform or bulge my brass either.  All of my brass is once, twice, thrice+++.....fired brass...

I figure someone might be browsing these threads thinking of trying this or similar in their guns so there ya go...your mileage may vary

Be safe......

FWIW.  I have killed 7 White Tail Deer with my 3" SP101 Revolver over the past few seasons.  All were humane quick kills using factory federal JSP (not hollow points) ammo.  I never recovered a bullet as they always made two holes.  Since last season I sold my trusty little revolver because I wanted a G29 and had no gun budget. 

This season, I am using it (G29) with factory barrel & handloaded 200 gr cast lead.  These little guns are legal to use where I live and they will sure do the job!  I ascribe myself to the full penetration/2 hole theory vs the 1 hole/max energy dump theory.  These critters run even when shot with high powered rifles....so I get a better blood trail with 2 holes.  So for me, if a bullet makes one hole, it failed. 

I am impressed with the factory barrel and lead.  I just tried this out last week with 200 gr Rim Rock truncated cone bullets and it works nice in my gun.  I ponder though, is 180 gr or 200 gr the most ideal 10mm compromise between power and speed?  Someday I will try some 180's.  But then again, 200 is such a nice round number. HaHa..  Good luck.

Your personal view and preconceptions will have a huge effect on whether you like it or not.  I for one don't have any now, never had more than one at a time.  But I was a realtor who worked with investors in a college town. 
#1.  Read books about it.

#2.  Do not be intimidated by it.  Use information to manage your risk.  This means, you will have lots of questions for your tax office, friend who is a Realtor, other people with rental properties....etc....Nay Sayers will point out all the negatives.....most of which might have been avoided with a clear and concise rental agreement. 

#3.  Do not get emotionally involved in a property.  Just calculate the numbers of costs including taxes, hoa fees, repairs, etc....and figure your cash flow.  It will work out if you do your due diligence!  I once had an aquaintance offer me the inside track on a deal where I could buy an RV park in a town 60 miles away.  He said they were having an influx of hundreds of employees to refurbish a power plant for several years.  I was able to get an individual to agree to loan me nearly 200k.  I was so excited I was about to really get some serious cash flow!  But as I would advise a client, I set in to do the homework.....after 3 weeks of resarching, driving, talking to the chamber of  commerce, and construction contractor at the power plant, AND the manager of the power plant (Alcoa I think it was), it just didn't ad up.  I also discovered that that little town had a gazillian sex offenders living there.  Saying no to that deal was the right thing to do but if I had not done the homework, I would have taken the advice of a friend and retired banker/investor who was saying....DO THIS!  I say all of this to say.....the process was still fun.  I enjoyed every minute of it even if I was let down in the end.

#4.  NEVER buy a property basing the decision on future appreciation!  Always Always make sure the numbers work out the day you sign the papers.  If it doesn't cash flow after property taxes and your payment and insurance, it doesn't matter what "current market values dictate".  There are always deals to be found.....the fun is the hunt!

#5.  Lease agreement....."When in doubt, spell it out".  Put EVERYTHING in writing...EVERYTHING so that your tenants will have a crystal clear understanding of what you do and do not allow.....therefore making it EASY to make them leave if the need arises.  Most peoples" bad experiences with rental property stem from not having a clear contract or not wanting to be prompt in dealing with issues.

#6.  You make your money when you BUY not when you sell.  The sales price of a property is sort of decided out of your hands....it is what the market says it is......BUT, the price you pay for it determines how wide of a margin that is! 

Sorry to be long winded.  As soon as my current situation changes I intend to begin investing in properties.  I helped others do it and read every book known to man a few years ago, but since 2009 we have been in a transitional time.  The investors I worked with taught me a lot about what to look for, be wary of, do, not do, etc......they all loved buying the properties.
Investing in real estate is an awesome thing to do, but you either love it or hate it....I love it.  It is easy for me to get on my soap box!   Real Estate investments  are tangible,  able to be insured, within your control to change, and generally (not always) appreciates over time.  If it burns to the ground, your insurance pays you for it.  If the market changes, you can adapt.  If a person's stock market portfolio goes to crap....they have nothing. 

Please accept my apologies for writing a friggin' book.  I had a full cup of fresh ground coffee and the urge to talk about real estate!  Good luck.  I really hope this helps you in your decision. 

I tried a few loads with the Rim Rock 200 Grain Truncated Cone Bullets today (sized .401 15 BHN).  I shot 8-9 rounds each of ;10.8, 11, 11.2, 11.4, & 11.6 grains of AA#9.  These were done to see if my stock Gen 4 Glock 29 Barrel would play nice with them.  After the first few shots I saw some streaks...then re-checked every few rounds.  Forty something rounds later there was no changes and the loads progressively got warmer.  She is good to go.  Now I will have to load some more of the most accurate recipes and tweak further.  AA#9 is a fine powder that meters nice, smells good, and burns CLEAN.  I also have Power Pistol, but that will have to wait for another day. 

I was shooting standing off hand downhill into a big creek (15yds +/-) so I am sure each group would print tighter if the shooter was steadier.  I plan to load more of the 11.6 gr load and also up to the book max of 11.8 to see where it is the most accurate. I estimate that the 11.6-11.8 grains will get me 1000+ fps since the book says 1157 (5" test barrel).  It was a relief to see that I was getting no more leading through almost 50 rounds.  FWIW, the best I could measure with my mic showed me that the bullets were more like .402.  I don't know, but they work and work well in the factory barrel. Cheers!




 

I just received the Rim Rock 200 gr TC and assembled a startingoad of 10.8 gr of AA9 seated to 1.26".   I'll see if it leads asap.

Howdy Shadow.  I am about to order some of those Rimrock 200 gr TC bullets.  I have Power Pistol and AA#9 powder.  My friend and I will be shooting them out of factory gen 4 g29's.
Any special advice?  I do plan on trying Blue Dot someday as well some of the ill-metering super powders in the spring....like Longshot , 800X, and I saw a new one on Hodgedon's website,
with impressive numbers.  It was called CFE Pistol.
I always appreciate your advice.  You have made quite a study of the 10mm!

**disclaimer*** the loads I mention here are from memory only.  Use a manual when reloading!!! 

I just started reloading 10mm with AA9 and Power Pistol with Xtreme 165 bullets.  Here are my thoughts so far.  AA9 is awesome because it has no smoke and a pleasant (factory ammo type) smell.  The smell is a big deal for me because for me, just a little whiff of the wrong scent makes me get a fast and LARGE headache.  The starting AA9 load is 13--13.5 gr...is accurate and pleasant out of my G29 (gen 4).  The max load is 15 gr but I have only went up to 14.5 and have found it to be super accurate, CLEAN, and not excessive recoil.  I am positive that your smoke is from the lube.

Power Pistol.   Alliant's starting load  (9 gr??) was vicious for me.  I perceived it to be more felt recoil and blast than the 14.5 AA9 load.  So as far a useful 10mm I am DONE with Power Pistol...HOWEVER, it was a darling when I went and loaded a starting 40 s&w load in 10mm brass.  Talk about fun and economical!  Recoil is a joke, accuracy is stellar, and all the brass hits me in the chest and lands at my feet....just enough to cycle the action.  I never have been big on downloading...using 38's in 357's etc...but this really exemplified the versatility of the cartridge for me.  For this reason I will continue to use PP with low-mid .40 cal loads in 10mm brass for times when I don't want/need the big noise.

This isn't very scientific, but I hope it gives yet another perspective.  I plan to settle on 200 gr (1000 fps +/-) or 180 gr lead bullets in the future.  I never meant to shoot any jacketed or plated bullets...but the 165 gr xtremes were so cheap that I bought them instead. 

That JS holster looks great too.  If there is one thing I have learned carrying IWB exclusively...is that the less you put in your pants, the better off you are...at least for me.  I like one clip holsters because I don't have to have a "session" every time I get dressed.  I say this though I have bid on a super tuck on ebay Ha!  I think I want to remind myself just once more that a wide dual clip holster is not for me.  I tried a supertuck with a 5" 1911 and it was very comfy but it was a pain to put on and squeaked alot.  The holsters I have made to get me by are just like the JS holster....only ugly and botched together....but functional.  There is no danger of me dabbling in the holster business!  HAHA

Thanks for the link.  The price is right.  I wish there was a picture of the holster with the tuckable strut.  I might have to give this a try for my G29 Gen 4.  I have a couple of holsters that I made myself that are a laugh that I am using until I find a good one