Thinking of getting a 10mm. To get best performance I want a pistol with a 6" barrel. There aren't a lot of options (that I find suitable). Glock 40 (I can't stand the grip angle on the Glock), EAA Witness Hunter, and a few 6" 1911s (single stack magazines). There're are/were a few double stack 1911s, but the only one in current production That I know of is the Rock Island (non-standard design that annoys the hell out of the 1911 purist in me.
Are there any 6" 10mm semis I'm overlooking?
Doesn't SIG make a HUNTER Model in camouflage? Seems like I've seen it at several locations.
Yes they do. I think it's just a 5".
Hey phydaux,
The Springfield 1911 TRP Operator may be worth considering, Or the Dan Wesson Bruin
Ken
https://www.cheaperthandirt.com/springfield-armory-1911-trp-long-slide-with-rmr-10mm-auto-semi-auto-pistol-6-barrel-8-rounds-night-sites-with-trijicon-rmr-steel-frame-g10-grips/FC-706397919566.html
One of the things on my checklist was double stacks magazines, so even though I'm a 1911 guy I was shying away from 1911s. Plus that TRP uses bull barrel& 2-piece guide rod. The 1911 snob in me has me wrinkling my nose at that.
I was looking at the Remington R1 Hunter. It has a proper bushing & solid full length guide rod, but it seemed to have some reliability issues.
I was looking hard at a Frankenglock built off of a Timberwolf frame & Lone Wolf 6" slide & barrel. But I've been watching SevenStar's "Not A Glock 20" P80 build videos, and he had a BUNCH of issues, and it took him quite a while to get his pistol to function reliably.
I'm thinking of spending the extra money and having Fusion Firearms build me a 6" 10mm 1911. It won't be double stack, but otherwise it hits my checklist.
I need to do some research on the EAA Witness Hunter.
Dan Wesson still offers a couple 6" 1911's in 10mm:
https://danwessonfirearms.com/product/bruin-2/
https://danwessonfirearms.com/product/kodiak/
Good stuff, to be sure, but Fusion Firearms can build me one to spec for $300 less.
Hate is a strong word.
Grip angles for a HUNTING handgun are not nearly as big a deal as folks make it to be. Different story for a defensive fast acquisition situation. But thats not HUNTING.
Its also just muscle Memory. The more ya shoot it the less it becomes an issue and if your to be come proficient in something ya need to spend the time. So tat alone reduces and likely ELIMINATES the issue entirely.
CW
I agree that it's a training issue. However, my natural grip allows me to index the sights to the target with every pistol - 1911, Sig 226, Sig 320, Beretta 92, H&K USP, Walther PPQ, literally every pistol I have tried EXCEPT Glock.
The Glock is a great platform with a lot of virtues. It's not magic like some people make it out to be. There are a lot of other options out there for every application - duty, compilation, whatever. The only place where there isn't another ready alternative is when it comes to a 6 inch double stack 10mm.
Word on the street is the P320 10mm is coming. I'll probably just hold out for that.
And why, on this of all forums, is it automatically assumed this will be for hunting?
Honestly this will just be a range toy. Maybe bowling pins. And if I grimace and mutter "I AM the law!" while shooting that will mean nothing.
If you don't like the hunter then go extreme
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In my own testing, the difference between my 6" Glock barrel and the 5.3" barrel of my Springfield XDm is negligible. Maybe 20fps on average. I much prefer to carry my XDm 4.5 OSP with a threaded, 5.3 inch barrel. The missing 1.5 inches of slide is much easier and quicker to handle and, to me, that makes up for the tiny difference in speed.
Quote from: phydaux on September 03 2020 03:18:29 PM MDT
And why, on this of all forums, is it automatically assumed this will be for hunting?
Honestly this will just be a range toy. Maybe bowling pins. And if I grimace and mutter "I AM the law!" while shooting that will mean nothing.
Well cause most folks hunt with these pistols!!! :o ;D
But its yours, have fun with what ever ya do with it!
CW
Hunting?
It's a concealed carry gun....😉
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The kodiak from DW is a nice gun. Shoots very well and mine ran right out of the box. Its quite accurate too. You'll find that for reliability most manufacturers have settled on ramped (almost all) and bull barrel (a few less). I will tell you I have an early N.O.S. 5 in 10mm built in the traditional way non ramped barrel and bushing and I spent a lot of time and effort and parts to make it run reliably.
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