Instead of getting the new threaded barrel and the slide cut for a sight on my 4.5" XDm 10mm to make it more deer hunting friendly, I went ahead and just got a new gun.
My teenage son talked me into getting the "baller" FDE color, and it has kinda grown on me.
The RMR was a Christmas present from my lovely bride.
(https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/l528/PJS50BMG/0/XDm%20FDE.RMR11.r.jpg)
The trigger is a little nicer on this gun and honestly, I think this one is also a bit more accurate than my first XDm.
Here's a 25yard, 5 shot target I did last weekend (the blue tape is 2" wide)
180g Montana hard-cast lead w/GC
12.7g AA#9, all touched off with WLP primers.
(https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/l528/PJS50BMG/0/10mmXDm.OSP.1.jpg)
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I really like that setup !!
Nice setup and nice groups 💪
Thanks Guys!
The cool thing is that the same load works just as good with 180g Hornady XTP projos.
The same load actually does pretty well with the Sierra 180g JHP too, but that one groups just slightly larger.
One thing I wish was that it was easier to find heavier recoil springs for the XDm guns.
I tried the Wolff 22# ones out, but they don't work like they should (long story, I went round and round with the factory on them and they didn't seem to understand that their shorter, but heavier wire gauge springs for the 4.5" XDm don't seem give the rated weight they are advertised to.)
Unfortunately even Springfield doesn't have anything heavier available either.
When shooting with a suppressor and full house loads, the recoil is pretty brutal. I don't want to hurt the gun
bought one just like it about a month ago-- I put the wolf 22 pound in it, also the PRP drop in trigger kit and a springer precision brake on it, and a talon grip tape kit on it-- it shoots my 180 grain 1120fps plinkers super soft-- the full house 180 xtp was clocking 1350, but I need to tweak it for accuracy-- the hi-tek coated 200wfn Montana bullets were going 1310, BUT they were seated too long (as I used the load from my ria 52000 for a starting point) and the slide wouldn't close on them-- so I needed to seat them a bit deeper to chamber so I also need to tweak these loads for accuracy---mine has a Burris fastfire 3 and I can hit 10" gong at 100 yards with no problems
the muzzle brake does help the recoil, and my plinkers still cycle just fine with it and the 22 pound wolf spring-- the prp trigger definitely helps out the trigger--the brake made it so my brass is now only going about 5 feet out at a 3:30 ejection zone
I'm having a horrible time finding an OWB holster for it though
Quote from: Texashogman on March 26 2020 07:47:41 AM MDT
bought one just like it about a month ago-- I put the wolf 22 pound in it, also the PRP drop in trigger kit and a springer precision brake on it, and a talon grip tape kit on it-- it shoots my 180 grain 1120fps plinkers super soft-- the full house 180 xtp was clocking 1350, but I need to tweak it for accuracy-- the hi-tek coated 200wfn Montana bullets were going 1310, BUT they were seated too long (as I used the load from my ria 52000 for a starting point) and the slide wouldn't close on them-- so I needed to seat them a bit deeper to chamber so I also need to tweak these loads for accuracy---mine has a Burris fastfire 3 and I can hit 10" gong at 100 yards with no problems
the muzzle brake does help the recoil, and my plinkers still cycle just fine with it and the 22 pound wolf spring-- the prp trigger definitely helps out the trigger--the brake made it so my brass is now only going about 5 feet out at a 3:30 ejection zone
I'm having a horrible time finding an OWB holster for it though
Hmmm... I thought I posted this earlier today?
Hey Tex,
What are your thoughts on the Wolff 22# spring?
Is it working as it should for you?
Personally, I cannot get it to push any more than @19# on my recoil spring scale (only @ 1/2# heavier than what the stock is supposed to be).
Even by the highly unscientific "pull of the slide" method, mine doesn't seem to be as heavy as the factory spring either, especially at the beginning of the slide motion due to the shorter length of the Wolff spring vs. the factory one.
I want to use my suppressor with my OSP, so I'd like to have a recoil spring that's at least 22#, if not higher.
Also, on the holster, I have a .45ACP cal. XD which came "fully loaded" with a mag loader, a few mags and a "minimalist" type of OWB kydex holster right from Springfield and the holster works great with the OSP, even with the optic mounted.
Maybe contact Springfield and get one of those. They can't be terribly expensive...
Thanks, I'll check out that holster, last time I contacted them they told me none of their holsters would fit the gun
As far as the spring, iirc, I did not notice any drastic length difference -- the slide is slightly harder to pull back and the brass does not fly near as far as the stock spring-- I bought mine from pro when I bought the trigger kit -- they ate showing item # 542-22 so I'm not exactly sure which wolf spring it is-- i can check when i get home if I remember-- i did flatten the end coils on my grinder, as recomended - other than that it was a drop in-- I dont think it is the wolf 1911, I think it's something different.
Just looked on Springfield site, they sell a bladetch, alien gear and paddle holster , the paddle says it will not fit the osp and I've contacted both other companies and they cant a sure me the osp will fit their brand either
I remember the "loaded gear" holster you are speaking of and it appears they dont offer it any more
Quote from: Texashogman on March 26 2020 11:01:32 AM MDT
Just looked on Springfield site, they sell a bladetch, alien gear and paddle holster , the paddle says it will not fit the osp and I've contacted both other companies and they cant a sure me the osp will fit their brand either
I remember the "loaded gear" holster you are speaking of and it appears they dont offer it any more
Bummer...
As I said, they were very "minimalist" kinda like a Galco Yaqui Slide Belt Holster for the 1911's.
It worked fine for the 10mm gun because the one I refer to was designed to hold the .45ACP XD, which is the same frame the 10mm guns were developed off of.
You know, I'm not so sure that the .40S&W & 9mm XD holsters of the same design wouldn't also work for the 10mm, since those holsters were screw/spring adjustable for width to tension the pistols properly... It's just C-shaped hunk Kydex, heat it up with a hair dryer/heat gun and stretch the sucker wider if need be.
Maybe look for one at a gun show or something if they can't be had through Springfield anymore.
They sold a crap-load of XD's with this same package of gear, there have to tens of thousand of them out there floating around.
Maybe post to a local gun forum or shooting club that you'd like to buy one. Maybe you can trade it for a few rolls of toilet paper or something valuable like that! LoL..
They're are kinda one of those items which tend to stay in the factory box forever or get lost among the "gun-clutter" in the garage/basement...
I'd definitely be interested in the recoil spring you have. Sounds different than the one from Wolff which is noticeably shorter than the stock one. No, a 1911 spring is a much narrower diameter than the 10mm XDm. I had to make a special spacer on my 1911 purposed recoild spring scale to accommodate the extra girth of the XDm spring.
I like it!
Got a bh serpa to fit, had to clearance out a channel for the suppressor height front sight-- I'd post a pic but my files are too large
Quote from: Texashogman on March 27 2020 12:44:32 PM MDT
I'd post a pic but my files are too large
Oh you can't tease up like that! :))
Open up the pics on your computer with a photo editor or even good old "Paint" will work.
Then, look in the menu for "Resize". For quick emailing, I recommend the biggest dimension of the photo to be no more than @1200 pixels.
Then, what I usually do is save it but not before adding a simple ".r" to the end of the filename (to me this means "reduced" when I see it in the name).
Then, you'll still have the original file, and the reduced size one for for easy emailing/posting.
Except I do all this via phone not computer
Quote from: Texashogman on March 27 2020 09:56:47 PM MDT
Except I do all this via phone not computer
The Tapatalk app is your friend for this. Super easy to upload pics. You can even pic the size of the pic when you upload.
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Quote from: 50BMG on March 19 2020 02:49:06 PM MDT
Instead of getting the new threaded barrel and the slide cut for a sight on my 4.5" XDm 10mm to make it more deer hunting friendly, I went ahead and just got a new gun.
My teenage son talked me into getting the "baller" FDE color, and it has kinda grown on me.
The RMR was a Christmas present from my lovely bride.
(https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/l528/PJS50BMG/0/XDm%20FDE.RMR11.r.jpg)
The trigger is a little nicer on this gun and honestly, I think this one is also a bit more accurate than my first XDm.
Here's a 25yard, 5 shot target I did last weekend (the blue tape is 2" wide)
180g Montana hard-cast lead w/GC
12.7g AA#9, all touched off with WLP primers.
(https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/l528/PJS50BMG/0/10mmXDm.OSP.1.jpg)
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I find that I am much more accurate with an RDS on my pistols than the regular 3 dot sights.
This is from my Glock 20 long slide with a Trijicon RMR and my suppressor attached. 15 rounds free hand at 15 yards.
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200330/0914c4d9073cd262dfc0b360c74b38bc.jpg)
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Quote from: 50BMG on March 20 2020 12:05:59 PM MDT
Thanks Guys!
The cool thing is that the same load works just as good with 180g Hornady XTP projos.
The same load actually does pretty well with the Sierra 180g JHP too, but that one groups just slightly larger.
One thing I wish was that it was easier to find heavier recoil springs for the XDm guns.
I tried the Wolff 22# ones out, but they don't work like they should (long story, I went round and round with the factory on them and they didn't seem to understand that their shorter, but heavier wire gauge springs for the 4.5" XDm don't seem give the rated weight they are advertised to.)
Unfortunately even Springfield doesn't have anything heavier available either.
When shooting with a suppressor and full house loads, the recoil is pretty brutal. I don't want to hurt the gun
Here's the solution to putting a heavier recoil spring in your XDm. https://shop.springerprecision.com/SP-Solid-Stainless-XDm-Guide-Rods-1911-Springs-SP0173.htm It allows for the use of 1911 springs in your XDm. The bushing and guide rod fit perfectly in mine, true drop in part.
I had to clip 2 coils off of the 24, 26, and 28lb Wolff 1911 springs to match the stacked height of the factory setup. My Xdm 4.5 ran just fine with mild to hot ammo with the 28lb spring, but it was pretty hard to get it off of slide lock. The 26lb spring seems to be just about perfect. It has made a huge difference in muzzle flip and felt recoil in mine.
Quote from: Mike D on March 30 2020 06:30:07 AM MDT
Quote from: Texashogman on March 27 2020 09:56:47 PM MDT
Except I do all this via phone not computer
The Tapatalk app is your friend for this. Super easy to upload pics. You can even pic the size of the pic when you upload.
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro
Used to use it, then realized how much tracking/data collection they do-- guess I'm just sol, used to also use photobucket untill they took ransom on all pics, due to that issue I'd never use another photo hosting site either
Anyway to reduce the file size on an android once the pic has been taken? I know you can change file soze before you take it, just unaware of how/if you can alter/change file size after its taken
Quote from: Texashogman on March 30 2020 08:35:03 AM MDT
Quote from: Mike D on March 30 2020 06:30:07 AM MDT
Quote from: Texashogman on March 27 2020 09:56:47 PM MDT
Except I do all this via phone not computer
The Tapatalk app is your friend for this. Super easy to upload pics. You can even pic the size of the pic when you upload.
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro
Used to use it, then realized how much tracking/data collection they do-- guess I'm just sol, used to also use photobucket untill they took ransom on all pics, due to that issue I'd never use another photo hosting site either
Anyway to reduce the file size on an android once the pic has been taken? I know you can change file soze before you take it, just unaware of how/if you can alter/change file size after its taken
Oh the irony of an Android user being paranoid about tracking. [emoji16]
I had not heard of them tracking. I use the Pro version so I see absolutely zero ads.
I try to limit my online footprint but there's only so much you can do.
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I have one just like it except I have a Vortex Venom 3moa on mine
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200401/df10bb4184c75a2f1e37a2c9db4f1b84.jpg)
Here is a link to Red River holsters. They have a nice one and even allows for a rmr cut.
https://rrtholsters.com/product/advanced-cut-holster-owb-only/
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Quote from: Graybeard on March 30 2020 08:24:46 AM MDT
Quote from: 50BMG on March 20 2020 12:05:59 PM MDT
Thanks Guys!
The cool thing is that the same load works just as good with 180g Hornady XTP projos.
The same load actually does pretty well with the Sierra 180g JHP too, but that one groups just slightly larger.
One thing I wish was that it was easier to find heavier recoil springs for the XDm guns.
I tried the Wolff 22# ones out, but they don't work like they should (long story, I went round and round with the factory on them and they didn't seem to understand that their shorter, but heavier wire gauge springs for the 4.5" XDm don't seem give the rated weight they are advertised to.)
Unfortunately even Springfield doesn't have anything heavier available either.
When shooting with a suppressor and full house loads, the recoil is pretty brutal. I don't want to hurt the gun
Here's the solution to putting a heavier recoil spring in your XDm. https://shop.springerprecision.com/SP-Solid-Stainless-XDm-Guide-Rods-1911-Springs-SP0173.htm It allows for the use of 1911 springs in your XDm. The bushing and guide rod fit perfectly in mine, true drop in part.
I had to clip 2 coils off of the 24, 26, and 28lb Wolff 1911 springs to match the stacked height of the factory setup. My Xdm 4.5 ran just fine with mild to hot ammo with the 28lb spring, but it was pretty hard to get it off of slide lock. The 26lb spring seems to be just about perfect. It has made a huge difference in muzzle flip and felt recoil in mine.
Sir,
What length springs did you order? I am assuming it would need commander length, correct?
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I ordered standard 5" springs. I was assuming that I would need to clip some coils.
I wish they would make one without the cowitness/supressor height sights. Id love to have an RMR on a xdm 10mm, but seems like that giant front blade would snag on everything.
Info on the spring I used
Wolff #54222- description says xd(m) series 4.5" 9mm, 45, 40s&w for use with factory or wolf guide rod-- extra power spring-- 22.0 lbs.
I bought it from prp when I bought my drop in trigger kit.
I have not measured it but it does make the slide harder to rack and the brass does not eject near as far so it must be stronger than the stock spring.
Hope that helps
a way better situation, my RIA 10 flings brass 20-30'
Sorry to revive a dead thread here guys but I thought others may be interested in this too.
TexasHogMan,
I found those Factory Kydex Springfield XD holsters if you are still in need?
There's a site called DVOR. It is a branch-company of Optics Planet.
They currently have the minimalist Springfield OWB holsters which work great with optics on the gun and they are cheap ($15.50).
Unfortunately their site does the sales like an "auction" so, while you won't be bidding against anyone, they only have limited quantities and you only have about 11 more hours from now to get one of these.
Here's the link:
https://www.dvor.com/springfield-armory-xd-gear-holsters.html
Yes, you'll have to create an "account" to buy from them, but it's not a big deal and sometimes, they really do have some awesome prices on different things (search their "Brands" list while you are there; save on shipping if you find something else too).
Nice shooten Mike!