I am looking for info on these 2 pistols.
I have a enough points in Cabela's to get either the Sig P220 Hunter or the Kimber Rapide both in 10mm.
Both are about the same money, give or take... I am looking for a 1911 style pistol...
I had a Kimber in 45, about 25 yrs ago, it was finicky on what it liked... so I am a little leary about the Kimber. I am hoping the newer ones are better.
I picked up a Sig p320 Xcompact a few months ago. I do like it, but you cant beat the 10mm:)
I have both a glock 20 and a 29 so no need to get them in the conversation
Thanks
Hey Jeff,
I'm not an expert on either, however I have had a few shooting buddies that have had to send their Kimber's in for one reason or another. For me, I would opt for the Sig P220 Hunter in a heartbeat, not to say I would not enjoy owning a well tuned Kimber 10mm
Ken
Do they have a Sig 1911 in 10mm there? If so I'd choose that over either of the other options.
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Brother has the Sig P2340 which is the polymer framed full size that came with the 357 Sig and 40 SW barrels. It's well built and shoots both barrels pretty good. Conversely, I have 2 Kimbers, a NIB 45 acp supposed match grade pistol that I had to have my smitty fix since Kimber couldn't. The other, a 9MM Pro Carry, won't chamber any round that exceeds 1.100". Max OAL on a 9MM is 1.169. Try buying factory ammo for that junker- it won't chamber a round. My vote goes for the Sig Hunter. Frankly, I've never heard of anybody having any issues with a Sig. Bound to be some but you never hear about them. Kimber, tons of complaints.
I bought a Sig P220 Elite and it is a machine!!. I also have a G20 with 3 barrels and all I can say about it is that the Glock is a tool. With idiosyncrasies. The Sig on the otherhand functions with any ammo, without any difference-just maybe how far the empties fly. One of the heaviest loads I shoot will hang on 1" at 30 yds. I did have an issue with the rear sight being less than adequately secured but this seems to be a characteristic of some adjustable sights. Easy fix. It is heavy at 40oz but that moderates recoil and My son gave me a cross chest rig for it and your pants stay up and yo dont know its there. Id gladly buy another.
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Sig does have a 1911 pattern series of 10mm s also. Im just happy with the 220 only 8 shot but I dont think Ill need all of them.
Ive heard, now its hearsay, that the Kimbers are kinda touchy and can have their own personalities.
I started out with 1911 pistols back in the 1980's with Colt Combat Commander and then Government models. Later in the late 90's I bought a Kimber, even after reading the horror stories. But, the one that I bought, a Kimber stainless Pro Carry, was good to go out of the box. It was a much better 1911 than any Colt 1911 that I had ever owned. After that I bought several other Kimbers, ending with a Custom TLE/RL II 10mm. It was good to go right out of the box. I read that the issue that Kimbers had were the external extractor models (which they no longer make). I had about 3 Kimbers and not a single issue. If you're looking at a Kimber or the Sig, I'd highly recommend the Kimber Custom TLE/RL II 10mm. Mine was good to go right out of the box and didn't even need any break in period.
Kimbers do have two minor issues. The supplied magazine isn't reliable. I always chucked them and bought Wilson Combat magazines. And, the second issue was the blue finish that Kimber uses is terrible and easily rusts. But, mechanically they are reliable and accurate. The only reason that I no longer have any Kimbers (or Colt 1911's) is because I discovered the much better Dan Wesson series of 10mm 1911 pistols. And my EDC is a Night Hawk Custom 10mm. I would have recommended the DW line earlier, but, since you are looking at a Sig 10mm then you probably don't want or have the extra $$$ to spend on a much better, DW 10mm 1911.
I have a couple friends who tune 1911's for competition, and they use nothing but Kimber. They are also the first to say that Kimber has the worst quality control of any manufacturer, and they've never seen a factory Kimber that worked like it should out of the box...ever.
They keep using Kimber because they feel that Kimber has the best guts of any production gun, and with some honing and part swapping they get the best gun for the money by starting with a factory Kimber, then fixing it. Most of the Kimber OEM parts (trigger, extractor, magazine, etc.) go in the garbage, and all the Kimber parts that are left get honed. They say that the honing isn't much...really just knocking edges off with a few passes of a hard white Arkansas stone.
They've done more than a dozen of them, so they've seen every piss-poor Kimber quality control screw-up you can name. But they keep buying them, fixing them, and selling them to people who are on a waiting list.
I recently got a (very) small inheritance, and I've been contemplating a Kimber 10mm. If I do I'll hand it over to my friends to massage and report back.
I'd go with the Sig 220...
one of my most liked shooting guns. Tho it is a bit heavy if your going to carry it.
I chose the P220 Elite SAO. Sig makes a 1911 also. Outside of a minor problem with the rear sight its been exemplary. 40 3/4 oz empty so it is heavy but there's little discomfort shooting a lot. SAO trigger is Sig's version and you might call it a 3 stage but its not mysterious to use and the break is probably <5#. It is accurate out to 50 yds- just havent tried farther. May have to admit my own limitations. My son gave me a cross body holster and you dont even know its there when carrying. I like the way Sigs are put together.
Quote from: inv136 on April 07 2020 06:17:05 PM MDT
I would have recommended the DW line earlier, but, since you are looking at a Sig 10mm then you probably don't want or have the extra $$$ to spend on a much better, DW 10mm 1911.
Much more expensive, certainly; much "better," what do you base that statement on? More reliable? More accurate? I'm curious.