BT Sniper got back with me and said he would love to see his bullets gel tested. He's swamped right now but said he would make some up for me to purchase in 10mm. Would you want to work up a few of these and gel test them? Let me know what weights etc... look interesting to you and how many you require.
http://castboolits.gunloads.com/showthread.php?183514-10mm-40cal-(-400)
Sounds interesting.
I would like to see how these will hold up to 10mm velocities.
What alloy is Brian going to use for these? Pure lead, WW or something else.
That would be the big advantage of these. By controlling the core alloy, you should be able to adjust the penetration you see.
Give me suggestions and I will order.
Interesting! I didn't realize there was such a thing.
BTsniper...BTsniper....I swear I know that name from another forum.......
Absolutely. I'd love to.
What looks good there?
I'd be interested in testing any of the available options but that could get expensive quickly.
I've got kind of a weird idea: What say we do a group buy where we split the cost of the die and pass it around between us as needed. If enough members can pitch in, the cost would be very low. I know that if I owned one I'd probably only use it one or two days every several months. You just crank out a ton of bullets and then you don't need the die set anymore for a while. Shipping via USPS to the next member would be only a couple dollars. Does that sound workable or am I being unrealistic? I'm in for $40.
I don't know that I would be in long term, but I would certainly pay $20 to rent it from the group for a week.
That might be a better cost model. I'd be in for that, too. I'm happy to spend $20-$40 for the privilege of using the dies but I can't afford to drop $400 on it right now.
I considered a set of BTSniper's dies a few years ago, but had one big concern about these - bullet length. By forming these from 9mm brass, the bullet is considerably longer than a commercial jacketed hollow point. Because of the extra bullet length reducing case capacity, these won't be able to achieve the same velocity, of course. It would be interesting to know the length of these 180gr bullets; I'm guessing they will be somewhere between a 200gr XTP length and a Barnes 180gr solid copper HP.
I do like the concept, and think BTSniper has done a great job on the die sets, just keep in mind the velocity limitations.
Quote from: Yondering on March 18 2013 09:14:59 PM MDT
I considered a set of BTSniper's dies a few years ago, but had one big concern about these - bullet length. By forming these from 9mm brass, the bullet is considerably longer than a commercial jacketed hollow point. Because of the extra bullet length reducing case capacity, these won't be able to achieve the same velocity, of course. It would be interesting to know the length of these 180gr bullets; I'm guessing they will be somewhere between a 200gr XTP length and a Barnes 180gr solid copper HP.
I do like the concept, and think BTSniper has done a great job on the die sets, just keep in mind the velocity limitations.
Velocity has NEVER been a big deal for me. Only thing that counts to me is accuracy, which I never find at the highest velocity loads in a recipe.
Quote from: gandog56 on March 20 2013 11:27:44 PM MDT
Quote from: Yondering on March 18 2013 09:14:59 PM MDT
I considered a set of BTSniper's dies a few years ago, but had one big concern about these - bullet length. By forming these from 9mm brass, the bullet is considerably longer than a commercial jacketed hollow point. Because of the extra bullet length reducing case capacity, these won't be able to achieve the same velocity, of course. It would be interesting to know the length of these 180gr bullets; I'm guessing they will be somewhere between a 200gr XTP length and a Barnes 180gr solid copper HP.
I do like the concept, and think BTSniper has done a great job on the die sets, just keep in mind the velocity limitations.
Velocity has NEVER been a big deal for me. Only thing that counts to me is accuracy, which I never find at the highest velocity loads in a recipe.
Is it fair to say you like the most velocity you can get with accuracy?
Not really, accuracy is pretty much number one, followed by what is the LEAST amount of powder I use to achieve that accuracy. After all, savings is why I reload.
I bet you could increase the velocity a fair bit if you took the time to machine off the head from the extractor groove back. Lots of brass back there that is adding to overall length without adding a lot of mass.
Seems like there was a guy on the swaging forum at cast boolits that had done exactly that, but it has been several years. Don't recall his results.