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10mm Ammuntion => Factory 10mm Ammo pull-downs => Topic started by: RDub01 on May 18 2019 08:01:47 PM MDT

Title: PMC Bronze 170gr JHP Pull-down
Post by: RDub01 on May 18 2019 08:01:47 PM MDT
Found some of these at a local shop..

(https://i.postimg.cc/x1Xsdk1D/DSC02965-sized.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)

Cartridge is from Ammo Manufacture:  PMC 170gr JHP

Muzzle Velocity; Advertised:   1200 fps
Actual Instrumental Velocity:  1104 fps  57°F
Muzzle Energy; Advertised:  543 ft/lbs

(https://i.postimg.cc/63VK1jk0/DSC02973-sized.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/gX01xDkX)

Brass Make/Head stamp:    PMC  10mm AUTO

Bullet Make/Weight/Construction/Info:   PMC  170gr  JHP
Dia;  .3995"  Length;  .612"
Actual Weight:  170.0grs.

(https://i.postimg.cc/W1KsDJmM/DSC02969-sized.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)

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(https://i.postimg.cc/2yXKHnSG/DSC02978-sized.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)

Crimp diameter:   .4218"
C.O.A.L.:   1.255"

Primer:   Brass color

(https://i.postimg.cc/13495KFm/DSC02972-sized.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)

Case:  Brass
Length; .986"  Base Dia;  .4228"   Weight;  78.1grs w/primer

(https://i.postimg.cc/bvtp1NL4/DSC02970-sized.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)

Powder Description/Positive ID/Type/Charge Weight:  9.2grs;  Flattened Ball

(https://i.postimg.cc/MTJx52FH/DSC02967-sized.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)

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(https://i.postimg.cc/5yxJc51M/DSC02968-sized.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)


Skyscreens centered 10' from muzzle


Case expansion was minimal;  .4326", .4322", .4322", .4318", .4327"
Title: Re: PMC Bronze 170gr JHP Pull-down
Post by: The_Shadow on May 18 2019 08:41:27 PM MDT
The powder seems to fit a charge for Accurate #7 by weight and yield.
Thanks for the documentation, Rdub01   8)
Title: Re: PMC Bronze 170gr JHP Pull-down
Post by: RDub01 on May 19 2019 10:40:09 AM MDT
Hey Shadow
I haven't worked with this bullet weight much at all, but I'm looking at Western's data for a 165gr jacketed bullet and they show;

AA #7;  start 10.8grs max 12.0grs.
AA #5;  start 8.7grs   max 9.7grs.

They don't list a 165gr load for Silhouette.

This load contained 9.2 grs. and was a  fairly stout load.
I'm thinking this powder has a burning rate closer to AA #5.
Title: Re: PMC Bronze 170gr JHP Pull-down
Post by: The_Shadow on May 19 2019 11:53:52 AM MDT
Wester manual 6.0 shows
170gr Winchester  using Silhouette 7.9 grains @ 1165 fps and 9.1grains @ 1285 fps  (way over your velocity)
180gr Hornaddy XTP using A#7 9.6 grains @ 1041 fps (close considering bullet weight it would be a little faster) and 10.7 @ 1183 fps
180gr Hornaddy XTP using A#5 7.8 grains @ 1053 fps and 8.7 @ 1197 fps

Winchester 571 powder shows a 170 grain JHP using 9.0 grains @ 1060 fps and 10.2 @ 1170 fps (not sure if this powder is around any more...HS-7 was the same)