Here's a couple of my pics from the dealer I purchased my NHC Falcon-10mm from. I got it a few days ago and have'nt gotten around to taking pics of it myself yet. I've also got a DW CBob-10 I'll have to get some pics of the two of them together.
(http://pics.gunbroker.com/GB/329401000/329401798/pix319898189.jpg)
(http://pics.gunbroker.com/GB/329401000/329401798/pix658646267.jpg)
I found one of the DW CBob-10 but the RZ-10 in the pic with it was sold recently to help fund the Falcon 10. Their not the best pics but as you can tell I tend to spend my money on guns instead of camera equipment.
(http://i935.photobucket.com/albums/ad196/d762nato/Dadsnewknives112012012.jpg)
Welcome to the forum! Those are some nice pistols, It's a shame you had to give up the DW in the process, but that Night Hawk Custom is sweet!
Nice! They look as much art work to me as firearms. You'll have to excuse my ignorance as I only own Glocks. ;D
Quote from: The_Shadow on March 03 2013 03:56:57 PM MST
Welcome to the forum! Those are some nice pistols, It's a shame you had to give up the DW in the process, but that Night Hawk Custom is sweet!
Thanks Shadow much appreciated, Yes i would have liked to kept the RZ-10 but i think it needed some customizing so thats why i went the other route and purchased the Falcon. I like the way NH did the slide also with the Hipower cuts and the added extra's.
Quote from: REDLINE on March 03 2013 04:12:53 PM MST
Nice! They look as much art work to me as firearms. You'll have to excuse my ignorance as I only own Glocks. ;D
Thanks Redline and the 1911's are art. I won't hold the Glock thing against you my son has one. ;)
I love my 1911's, but generally carry my Glock.
That, of course, will change once my Para P12 CCO conversion is complete.
Lovely guns and welcome to the forum.
beautiful, congrats
Quote from: sqlbullet on March 04 2013 09:15:01 AM MST
I love my 1911's, but generally carry my Glock.
That, of course, will change once my Para P12 CCO conversion is complete.
Lovely guns and welcome to the forum.
Thank you Sir and your Para conversion sound's interesting and it'll be nice to see once its done.
That Hawk is sexy, D. Hope she shoots s good as she looks.
Quote from: d762nato on March 03 2013 02:36:59 PM MST
I found one ofhttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v196/Gandog56/dwgroup.jpg the DW CBob-10 but the RZ-10 in the pic with it was sold recently to help fund the Falcon 10. Their not the best pics but as you can tell I tend to spend my money on guns instead of camera equipment.
(http://i935.photobucket.com/albums/ad196/d762nato/Dadsnewknives112012012.jpg)
This is why I'll probably NEVER sell my DW RZ10.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v196/Gandog56/dwgroup.jpg)
Quote from: Deadguy on March 05 2013 06:02:15 PM MST
That Hawk is sexy, D. Hope she shoots s good as she looks.
Thanks DG as soon as I round up ammo and mags for it I'll be putting some lead down range. ;D
Can't wait to hear the range report on that future outing.
Very pretty!
I have a DW RZ-10 too. Over time I have seen these and the other high end 1911's but have not shot one or handled one. Since you have owned and shot both what do get in the high end pistols over the DW? I look mine over sometimes to see what could have been improved upon but don't really find anything.
Quote from: Intercooler on March 09 2013 07:25:42 AM MST
Very pretty!
I have a DW RZ-10 too. Over time I have seen these and the other high end 1911's but have not shot one or handled one. Since you have owned and shot both what do get in the high end pistols over the DW? I look mine over sometimes to see what could have been improved upon but don't really find anything.
While the RZ-10 is a great 1911-10mm Intercooler. It's just not in the same league as the NH hence the extra cost. When I had the RZ-10 I looked it over and thought about sending it off to a smitty and i do wish i could have done just that. But i chose to get the Falcon. I just love the hipower cuts on the slide and the flush cut barrel the serrated back of the slide and the flush cut slide stop pin and the checkered front strap and the hand fitted grip safety
Also the top of the slide has three ball cuts down the length of it and night sights. Plus its built by hand by a master smith one at a time and comes with a test target which is pretty much 3 shots in one hole. Then you have the guarentee and can send it back if need be at no charge to the customer either way. Your paying for alot but you get alot in return.
If i had sent the RZ-10 out and had all the work done it would still cost quite a bit and still would'nt be a 1911 built from the ground up one at a time by a master smith one at a time. It also has a one piece magwell and checkered main spring housing. Its a nice piece but I've got my CBOB-10 for CC but it does need some work also to bring it up to speed imo. If you compare the Falcon side by side with the CBOB you would see its like night and day in comparison. I hope I've helped you out with your question. Thanks,
So we are talking cosmetic tires and wheels not really the engine that drives it? First shot ever out of my DW was a dead bull and it's as accurate as anyone can hold it to the spot. Other than the tightness that drove me crazy out of the box it has been awesome. Unless it did something better in function that was totally obvious I guess me personally I could never spring for one. The cost would turn it into a safe Queen :D
I tend to agree with Intercooler, but I also clearly see both sides on how the cost/benefit is weighed. Still, very nice explanation d763nato. You did bring to light aspects I had no idea of.
Quote from: Intercooler on March 10 2013 12:18:55 PM MDT
So we are talking cosmetic tires and wheels not really the engine that drives it? First shot ever out of my DW was a dead bull and it's as accurate as anyone can hold it to the spot. Other than the tightness that drove me crazy out of the box it has been awesome. Unless it did something better in function that was totally obvious I guess me personally I could never spring for one. The cost would turn it into a safe Queen :D
Intercooler yes we are talking all the internals as well as the outer. For instance when you look inside the integral fully supported ramp looks like you could see your face in it. I mean all the parts are about as finely finished and fit as can be done by human hands.
Everythings beveled and rounded where it needs or should be, not so with my CBOB. Its kind of like comparing a chevy cavalier to a chevy corvette. Do you see where I'm coming from. And no i don't own a corvette but have looked at them, i wish i owned one though. :)
Don't get me wrong I really liked my RZ-10 but at this time i could'nt have both. So i parted with the full size and kept the commander. I have nothing against Dan Wesson 1911's they are the best noncustom1911's made in my book. I'm sure I'll get another down the road. Now if Dan Wesson would only make a 10mm Valor or Vbob that would be just great and definately in my little collection.
Quote from: REDLINE on March 10 2013 12:23:33 PM MDT
I tend to agree with Intercooler, but I also clearly see both sides on how the cost/benefit is weighed. Still, very nice explanation d763nato. You did bring to light aspects I had no idea of.
Thank You Redline and like i told Intercooler i wish i could have kept the RZ-10 but the wife says i mean i have limits too. ;D
Can you insert a round and snap a picture of the support for the archives?
I would love to see a pic of that myself.
Quote from: d762nato on March 10 2013 02:16:23 PM MDT...the wife says i mean i have limits too.
Limits suck. But I don't know anyone who has lives limitless. They're just a part of life I guess. :(
Quote from: d762nato on March 10 2013 02:13:33 PM MDT
Quote from: Intercooler on March 10 2013 12:18:55 PM MDT
So we are talking cosmetic tires and wheels not really the engine that drives it? First shot ever out of my DW was a dead bull and it's as accurate as anyone can hold it to the spot. Other than the tightness that drove me crazy out of the box it has been awesome. Unless it did something better in function that was totally obvious I guess me personally I could never spring for one. The cost would turn it into a safe Queen :D
Intercooler yes we are talking all the internals as well as the outer. For instance when you look inside the integral fully supported ramp looks like you could see your face in it. I mean all the parts are about as finely finished and fit as can be done by human hands.
Everythings beveled and rounded where it needs or should be, not so with my CBOB. Its kind of like comparing a chevy cavalier to a chevy corvette. Do you see where I'm coming from. And no i don't own a corvette but have looked at them, i wish i owned one though. :)
Don't get me wrong I really liked my RZ-10 but at this time i could'nt have both. So i parted with the full size and kept the commander. I have nothing against Dan Wesson 1911's they are the best noncustom1911's made in my book. I'm sure I'll get another down the road. Now if Dan Wesson would only make a 10mm Valor or Vbob that would be just great and definately in my little collection.
You are now getting me to
BELIEVE. :P
Yeah...There is a lot more that goes into usability and shootability than accurate and reliable. My Witness Elite Match is accurate and reliable, but it has so many sharp edges it would snag like crazy as a carry piece. I would have to seriously de-horn that gun.
Quote from: Intercooler on March 09 2013 07:25:42 AM MST
Very pretty!
I have a RZ-10 too. Over time I have seen these and the other high end 1911's but have not shot one or handled one. Since you have owned and shot both what do get in the high end pistols over the DW? I look mine over sometimes to see what could have been improved upon but don't really find anything.
I know this wasn't addressed at me, but I just received a Custom Build Fusion Firearms 10mm. So new I haven't taken it to the range, yet. But if it shoots better than the target I showed shot with my RZ, I would be pretty amazed. I spent a lot of money hoping that with the 1" longer barrel, it just MIGHT, though
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v196/Gandog56/CappieHunterTradXlElite-3.jpg)
Can you guys take a picture of your Nighthawk and Fusion chamber support?
Pretty Please on the chamber support pics?
You can post it here if you want:
http://10mm-firearms.com/gunsmithing/barrelchamber-support/
Looks like we have a Fusion there but no Nighthawk. I'm interested to see!
Quote from: Intercooler on March 12 2013 03:23:52 AM MDT
Can you guys take a picture of your Nighthawk and Fusion chamber support?
I'm not home right now but I sent an email to Bob Serva, head of Fusion Firearms if he could provide a pic. Will post again if and when he answers. (And I fully expect he will. He's pretty good at replying to emails)
I think the idea was you would just drop a round in your new gun a take a pic with your cell phone really quick. We are curious what your's looks like.
Number 1, that assumes you have a cell phone with a camera. I do, but have never ever even used it, and would not know how to. Or how to transfer it to my computer.
All academic anyways, I'm away, gun is at the house. Mr. Serva did answer my email and said their ramped barrels were FULLY supported, but did not give me any picture.
'd762nato' congrats on the 10mm 1911. Nice looking gun.
Is the one from Serva a Fusion? We have that and it has an unramped Delta Elite style barrel unless they changed. I'm trying to get the Nighthawk.
Like I said, the gun is at the house, I'm not. Mr. Serva DID say it was a ramped fully supported barrel, though. Maybe they changed.
Quote from: gandog56 on March 17 2013 09:34:01 PM MDTLike I said, the gun is at the house, I'm not. Mr. Serva DID say it was a ramped fully supported barrel, though. Maybe they changed.
I could be wrong, but it seems to me the Fusions are available either way you want them, conventional or ramped and more/less fully supported. Can anyone verify?
At what I PAID...it BETTER be fully supported! Don't want no Glock Smileys on my cases, since I reload them.
You are going to love the nighthawk. I have 2. Heinie longslide and enforcer both in 10 mm
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The heinie 10mm long slide Nighthawks must be popular, everybody seems to be out of stock on them. I can't even find the price of one to compare it with my new Fusion Firearms 10mm long slide, with fully adjustable rear sight and fiber optic pipe front sight.
Someone snapping a support photo?
Quote from: REDLINE on March 18 2013 02:17:35 PM MDT
Quote from: gandog56 on March 17 2013 09:34:01 PM MDTLike I said, the gun is at the house, I'm not. Mr. Serva DID say it was a ramped fully supported barrel, though. Maybe they changed.
I could be wrong, but it seems to me the Fusions are available either way you want them, conventional or ramped and more/less fully supported. Can anyone verify?
yes the buyer has the choice. The one I posted was the setup I chose. I would hazard to guess that most 10mm Fusion builds do have a ramped barrel.
Quote from: Intercooler on March 21 2013 12:09:57 PM MDT
Someone snapping a support photo?
Gandog is not sure how to take a photo with his cellphone or upload it.
He has an LG GU295. If you can coach him through snapping the pic and then texting it to you...
Does anyone out there with a Nighthawk have a camera they can do this with?
Quote from: sqlbullet on March 22 2013 07:32:40 AM MDT
Quote from: Intercooler on March 21 2013 12:09:57 PM MDT
Someone snapping a support photo?
Gandog is not sure how to take a photo with his cellphone or upload it.
He has an LG GU295. If you can coach him through snapping the pic and then texting it to you...
Where did you find out I have an LG GU295?
And it doesn't matter....I am temporarily at a nursing home, the gun is at my house. can't leave here until I can get up out of my bed unassisted and make it to my wheelchair...or the bathroom. Which ever I need to do
Radiation treatments to my nose and throat for cancer killed my saliva glands, They pulled all my teeth because no saliva means they just start to rot out of your mouth. it is not a lot of fun to eat as a matter of fact it was painful to eat. Soups were just about all I could down.. I dropped some way serious poundage, which ate up all the muscle mass in my legs. Can't walk, can't get out of low furniture or car seats. Going to be a while. But they say the cancer looks like it is completely gone..
Quote from: gandog56 on March 22 2013 10:27:10 PM MDT...they say the cancer looks like it is completely gone..
Glad to hear it. I'm close to a couple of people who have been going through cancer treatments and seem to be close to the point they can say the same. An Uncle of mine was recently diagnosed with a particularly rare form of skin cancer that supposedly is virtually impossible to get rid of. He's going through some experimental treatment for that and so far doing better than expected.
Hope things turn out for you better than expected!
They will......if I ever get out of this nursing home!
Quote from: gandog56 on March 22 2013 10:27:10 PM MDT
Quote from: sqlbullet on March 22 2013 07:32:40 AM MDT
Gandog is not sure how to take a photo with his cellphone or upload it.
He has an LG GU295. If you can coach him through snapping the pic and then texting it to you...
Where did you find out I have an LG GU295?
My google-foo is strong ;D
No, really, because I do NOT remember mentioning what phone I ever had....did I?
d762nato, mighty nice looking stuff there. I want to think that C-bob looks very familiar. Oops, just saw your other post in response to mine. Yup, it does look familiar. Beautiful gun.
I'm down to just one 10 and it's a NH - Talon.
(http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r258/jfwest/file-92.jpg)
Bobtail, all black, reverse crown barrel. Had it about two months now with roughly 1000 rds. through it.
Should be at the house tomorrow, I'll try to remember to take a pic.
Guess all experiences with the upper end NH aren't great. It's like that in every MFG I think!
In reading this review I somehow wonder if his was a little break-in related? I know my first time out with my Razorback it locked solid and made me want to throw it down the range. Thoughts on his issues?
http://www.ar15armory.com/forums/topic/135233-my-nighthawk-experience/#entry2220755
This is my second NH and both have been exquisite in fit, finish, operation, etc, etc. In replacing the grips on my T# I encountered a bushing that had been set in thermo-nuclear grade loctite and I boogered up the bushing. My mistake, not theirs. I was installing new bushings anyway, so no big deal.
I own and have owned, a lot of 1911's, including LB's, DW's, Springers, Colts, etc, no Wilson's or Ed Brown's, but for me the NH is absolutely tops.
Even the best company has the occasional item slip through QA.
Quote from: gandog56 on March 29 2013 09:59:15 AM MDT
Should be at the house tomorrow, I'll try to remember to take a pic.
Dang it! Fusion sent a bushing wrench and extra different poundage springs with my Long slide. I was cleaning all my packages my mom just threw on the bed. Both me and my brother saw the durned packaged goodies, but could not find where we had stuffed them after we cleared the bed. I have 2 other bushing wrenches and could find NEITHER of those either. Result is, no pics of a cartridge in the barrel. Still not strong enough to do it without the wrench, and my brother has NO idea how to field strip a 1911.
Is your mom a shooter, or does she leave the shooting to you and your brother?
My brother has one gun, a Hi-Point .45 that was an absolute POS when I got it. It literally would NOT go through a single magazine without some failure to something, usually 2-3 times. He used it as a one shot shark dispatcher since the one thing it DID do right was go bang if it DID chamber a cartridge. Later he found some part in it that was damaged. He is MUCH more mechanically inclined as I am. (I whup the crap outta him in electricity/electronics, we're even!) He even fabricated a new part from a piece of scrap steel. Stupid gun never felt good in my hands, so it's OK I gave it to him. My SA 1911A` GI felt sooooo much better. Of course my mom hates guns, hates the fact I have a crapload of them, doesn't even like to see the boxes of ammo in my bedroom.