When someone gets one and shoots it with some real 10mm ammo, please post up how far and where it throws it. I can't really make it out in the videos and reviewers never tell us!
It does look like the Grand Power 10mm dumps them to the right and not too far away. I'm kind of wondering what's done different there for ejector?
Ditto. And I would like to know how the XDm handles real 10mm ammo.
One thing I noticed about the Springfield XD is it is a noncaptive recoil setup, I like that feature and it would make recoil spring swaps and or tuning easy... :D
It's handling the good stuff just fine! I wonder if the GP throws it less since the brass expands at the barrel end versus primer end? It takes a little more to jerk it out and slows things down?
Quote from: Intercooler on October 14 2018 10:29:33 AM MDT
It's handling the good stuff just fine! I wonder if the GP throws it less since the brass expands at the barrel end versus primer end? It takes a little more to jerk it out and slows things down?
I think it is the action itself that slows things down. A bit more time in the rotation than in a Browning design. That's what I think anyway. (and it has been too long since I took physics in College)
My Springfield 1911 10mm -- when it deigns to cycle and fire a shot -- threw brass about 30 or 40 feet to the five o-clock position. That complicates recovery as where I shoot, that's far enough to scatter them in mud and weeds. And when they hit, they're still going fast enough to bounce around irregularly. No pretty pile here to walk over and pick up. This is with "real" 1250 fps factory ammo, or equivalent handloads.
It looks like a good 20' in this video:
Couple of data point for you -
200gr WFNGC w/ 13.3gr AA#9 tossed brass about 25-30' (Approx 1252fps thru my Match Elite 5" Barrel)
165gr FMJ w/ 8.8gr True Blue tossed brass about 15-20' (Approx 1208fps thru my RIA 5" barrel)
180gr XTP w/ 10.4gr Blue Dot tossed brass about 15-20' (Approx 1222fps thru my Match Elite 5" Barrel)
Shooting my 29, out of 10 rounds I usually only find 4 or 5 cases. No rhyme nor reason the way it throws brass
Ruger 1911, 26lb recoil spring, 34lb main spring, flat bottom fps and shortened ejector will toss about 8 feet with a 220 at just under 1200fps
Comped glock longslide with 24lb recoil spring with the same 220 slug at 1400fps (uber nuclear) will only toss 3-4 feet.
13.5 gr of aa#9 under a 180 grain xtp in my new xdm 10mm 4.5 throws brass about 20 feet. Got 50 more loaded up with 13.7 gr. See if they go any further.
Well just an observation for you, I cant make a measurement because I havent shot it outside yet.
At the range the other day it was flinging them off the wall of the shooting lane so hard they were bouncing back and smacking my buddy waiting behind me a good 6'
That's 6 foot of bounce after hitting a rubberized wall that usually stops my 45 cases pretty well dead. O.o flings it almost like my P220 10mm, to the next county.
Solid 20 feet with XDM 5.25 straight to the right.
The load was a max load of Power Pistol with a 180 grain Montana Gold HP new Starline brass.
I can't help you with the XD, but I can tell you my EAA Witness was dangerous to anyone at my 3:00, those things would go 70 feet on a low arc, and I actually bonked a couple people in the lanes next to mine. One guy was two lanes over and said it pinged off his pistol and he was getting ready to fire, scared the snot out of him. I got tired of making apologies for my gun's bad manners and sold it! ::)
Sig V-crown 180gr fmj, I think it's advertised at 1250fps, went 30-40 ft to the 4:00 position. That's out of a stock xdm 5.25. I've gotta 22lb spring coming to see if that helps.
Quote from: Parker06 on December 02 2018 05:41:19 AM MST
Sig V-crown 180gr fmj, I think it's advertised at 1250fps, went 30-40 ft to the 4:00 position. That's out of a stock xdm 5.25. I've gotta 22lb spring coming to see if that helps.
Would love to know if a heavier spring helps. Which one did you order? I am sure the stock spring is to allow for weak 10mm factory ammo to function.
This is getting to be a concern for me with my Kimber Target II LS. My Kimber running full house 180 gr loads will hurl my spent casings about 25'+ at about 4 oclock. I'm just amazed at how far i'm forced to chase my brass. 10mm brass is very pricey even once fired, so NO WAY am I leaving any brass un-policed at my range ! Probably not going to shoot my Kimber much once the snow sets it, same deal not digging through snow to shag brass.
Please don't take this the wrong way, but that is what I expected at this point, another Browning design (though I did read lately that the rotating barrel was also a Browning design and that doesn't surprise me, genius that he was with actions).
I'd chime in about how far my RIA 5" throws brass, but I dropped in to find what the OP was trying to find out-how far the XD's ejection pattern is...
To the two posters that shared their experiences with the XD: Thanks!
As the subject is 'I'm interested in XDm 10mm brass distance versus other MFG's' I think it would be entirely appropriate for you to state your RIA 5" numbers, wouldn't it?
I have a G20 and a G29, a Sig 220, a RIA 5", a Delta Elite and the Grand Power. These guns are all a hoot to shoot and I will likely buy others, but the Grand Power is the only one that is not a Browning design (or is it?) but rather a rotating barrel and that is the point I'm trying to make.
Has anybody tried filing the ejector down some? I've been thinking of doing that on my Kimber Stainless Target II. Even with a 23 lb recoil spring it throws them 25ft to the 5oclock. Thinking if one takes their time you could get reliable ejection 5-6 feet out. I wouldn't do it if I carried this for specifically for SD, but for shooting and hunting it seems to make sense. I would also think it would work with the Tangfolio or any other Pistols with similar designs.
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Filing the ejector is the only remedy I am aware of that consistently works. Most shy away from it as it can result in malfunctions in lower impulse ammo.
Thank You SQ, think I am going to do that. I will start from reverse though, I will put in a 18lb spring and use my indoor winter target loads(R rules, lead only and <1000fps), file until I get a 3-4ft ejection. Then when I move to full house loads I will just go back to the 23lb spring and the full house loads shouldn't go into orbit anyway.
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Quote from: TODDXUSMC on December 19 2018 04:10:44 PM MST
Thank You SQ, think I am going to do that. I will start from reverse though, I will put in a 18lb spring and use my indoor winter target loads(R rules, lead only and <1000fps), file until I get a 3-4ft ejection. Then when I move to full house loads I will just go back to the 23lb spring and the full house loads shouldn't go into orbit anyway.
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Looking forward to your results, please keep posting on this subject.
This research project will be added to my long list of solid reasons I need another 10mm pistol, in addition to the important community support it will provide.
My 29 puts them in the next county. I shot 20 rounds the last time and only recovered 4 pieces