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Title: Longslide school
Post by: gunforhire on January 04 2013 07:49:16 PM MST
I need to go there.  Glock guys, what are you using for components?  I want to do a 6in slide and bbl with a burris Fastfire for hunting and a trail/camping gun.   Would some of you tell me what works and what don't?
Title: Re: Longslide school
Post by: Jay/G20 on February 17 2013 04:04:44 PM MST
Well I'll share this with you.
I signed up for the class. Class will begin in 2-3 weeks maybe longer. I have read and read and read ...holding out/waving a handful of cash....and I'm ready to let the fun begin :-\
Read and make your own decisions based on knowledge and available information. I will rely on the place of longslide purchase for any help or advise "if" problems arise.
I already have a name for my thesis or project : G20 Goober Goes LONG !

{shaking my head}>>>>Why.....Why must I be so curious !
Title: Re: Longslide school
Post by: Jay/G20 on March 21 2013 02:59:31 AM MDT
Update: I guess my class will be delayed a little bit longer.....still waiting on class materials to arrive.

I ordered a Lone Wolf G20L custom black oxide blind marked and I guess Lone Wolf QC {Quality Control} rejected the finish. I was a little sad to read that email but on the same hand I'm very pleased that Lone Wolf has "QC" and they just didn't pass it along to me . ^5 (high 5} to Lone Wolf !



 
Title: Re: Longslide school
Post by: gandog56 on March 21 2013 10:57:23 AM MDT
There is like multiple posts of people with Glocks suddenly wanting long slides....I kind of wonder why.
Title: Re: Longslide school
Post by: Jay/G20 on March 21 2013 12:22:11 PM MDT
In my case its cosmetics...  1.) I have a KKM Precision 6" drop-in and I just want to cover up that extra 1.5" of barrel that sticks out the end of the slide.  2.) Just to have a G20 that is different from everyone's else's and  the stock version. I really don't think the long slide will make that much difference in performance but that will be determined.
I will see how well it cycles and see if that 1.5" longer site range will really have any effect on target accuracy. 
Title: Re: Longslide school
Post by: Yondering on March 21 2013 12:54:03 PM MDT
Quote from: gunforhire on January 04 2013 07:49:16 PM MST
I need to go there.  Glock guys, what are you using for components?  I want to do a 6in slide and bbl with a burris Fastfire for hunting and a trail/camping gun.   Would some of you tell me what works and what don't?

Just my opinion, but it's probably not worth the expense of the long slide, if you plan to mount an optic on it. One of the big advantages of the long slide (vs just a 6" barrel) is the increased sight radius; an optic negates that advantage and will work just as well on a stock slide.
Title: Re: Longslide school
Post by: Yondering on March 21 2013 12:55:01 PM MDT
Quote from: gandog56 on March 21 2013 10:57:23 AM MDT
There is like multiple posts of people with Glocks suddenly wanting long slides....I kind of wonder why.

Probably the same reason you wanted a 1911 long slide. Just guessing...
Title: Re: Longslide school
Post by: REDLINE on March 21 2013 01:14:35 PM MDT
For those that have longslides, what's your holster preference?
Title: Re: Longslide school
Post by: gandog56 on March 23 2013 02:11:05 PM MDT
Quote from: Yondering on March 21 2013 12:55:01 PM MDT
Quote from: gandog56 on March 21 2013 10:57:23 AM MDT
There is like multiple posts of people with Glocks suddenly wanting long slides....I kind of wonder why.

Probably the same reason you wanted a 1911 long slide. Just guessing...

Because I also wanted to see if the longer sight radius of an added inch would let me shoot tighter groups. But I bought the whole gun, didn't modify what I already had. (Dan Wesson 5" Razorback)
Title: Re: Longslide school
Post by: sqlbullet on March 24 2013 06:34:39 PM MDT
Whats wrong with accessorizing what you already have if you are on a budget and are curious about sight radius having a positive impact on shooting.
Title: Re: Longslide school
Post by: gandog56 on March 24 2013 07:56:16 PM MDT
Well, I just don't like Glocks could be a stock answer......and I DON'T! But my 5" Dan Wesson Razorback is a darned good shooter as it is. I wanted to try a longer sight radius without replacing parts on a good gun. Who knows if you would EVER get it back the way it was if you altered it and wish to undo it? Now if you are just replacing a barrel.....yeah, I might try it first. But I don't like any pipe sticking out the end of my guns, either. No silencers or comps on any of my guns except my .454 Casull Taurus Raging Bull. And they are just holes drilled through the end of the barrel to divert some gases upwards just before the bullet exits..
Title: Re: Longslide school
Post by: Yondering on March 25 2013 10:29:46 AM MDT
Mine in bold

Quote from: gandog56 on March 24 2013 07:56:16 PM MDT
Well, I just don't like Glocks could be a stock answer......and I DON'T!

I think we get that. But you trumpeting that opinion loudly and repeatedly accomplishes what, exactly? Are you trying to convince everyone else not to shoot Glocks either? Why do you care so much?

I wanted to try a longer sight radius without replacing parts on a good gun. Who knows if you would EVER get it back the way it was if you altered it and wish to undo it?

Since your original comment was against Glock longslides, I'm taking this to mean you really don't understand much about Glocks. Getting it "back the way it was" is as simple as stripping the slide off and putting the original slide back on. Takes less than 5 seconds to do.
Title: Re: Longslide school
Post by: gandog56 on March 25 2013 01:20:10 PM MDT
I'm taking it you are a Glock owner. I explain because new posters may not know already why I hate them so. And that my reason why should NOT influence how they feel about them. There is absolutely nothing wrong with a Glock except they mostly feel funny in my hand. They fit in yours, go ahead and buy one.

Well that and all the Glock "Kaboom" stories I've heard of people shooting cast bullets in OEM polygonal rifled barrels. If the Glock DID fit in my hands, I would also get a 3rd party conventionally rifled barrel for it.
Title: Re: Longslide school
Post by: sqlbullet on March 25 2013 01:29:47 PM MDT
Yondering, as I recall, is like me.  He is a Glock owner and speaks well of them only under protest.  I don't really care for them, but dang, mine sure does make it impossible to exclude from the holster or the range.
Title: Re: Longslide school
Post by: Jay/G20 on April 20 2013 08:48:37 PM MDT
Things have moved in a forward motion. I received my long slide from Lone Wolf and popped the box .............within 20 minutes of finding my parts, installing,and racking the slide .....a GREAT BIG SMILE broke out on my face. I will have to get back with all the details but { whispering} I did go out and run 50 rounds through it ......perfect operation!!!!!   I am very pleased!!!!!!!!. I'll be back soon with pics comments and an overall rating.   
Title: Re: Longslide school
Post by: gandog56 on April 20 2013 10:07:42 PM MDT
Quote from: Jay/G20 on April 20 2013 08:48:37 PM MDT
Things have moved in a forward motion. I received my long slide from Lone Wolf and popped the box .............within 20 minutes of finding my parts, installing,and racking the slide .....a GREAT BIG SMILE broke out on my face. I will have to get back with all the details but { whispering} I did go out and run 50 rounds through it ......perfect operation!!!!!   I am very pleased!!!!!!!!. I'll be back soon with pics comments and an overall rating.   

Yeah, but were your groups any tighter?
Title: Re: Longslide school
Post by: Jay/G20 on April 20 2013 11:54:49 PM MDT
On a typical house fly there are approximately  8 front-orbital bristles, 5 external vertical bristle, and  7 internal vertical bristle per side of face. When I went out to run the pistol , I had no thought in my mind to observe the operation and function of the pistol. I was out there to see if the pistol was able to group tighter than I could do with the stock barrel .
I was concerned if my investment was worth it. After the 1st 10 rounds I noticed that my dog 37meters away was having a problem shewing away a pesky fly that kept landing on his ear. I felt confident and I must say a little cocky , took steady aim and removed the items {mentioned in the opening comments} from the flies face 1 by 1 until that pesky fly decided that it
was indeed time to move along . I'm positive I could have punched the flies time card on the very first shot .......but I have been known as a guy that wouldn't even hurt a fly.....
So gandog56 if you allow me the time I will get this pistol on paper and better answer your question. :P

 
 
Title: Re: Longslide school
Post by: gandog56 on April 23 2013 07:45:55 PM MDT
Reminds me of that line from They Call Me Bruce.

You missed

Yes, but that fly will never have sex again!
Title: Re: Longslide school
Post by: 475/480 on April 30 2013 02:07:42 PM MDT
Basic Yagui (sp) slide. Fits my Caspian and STI 10.

Sean

Quote from: REDLINE on March 21 2013 01:14:35 PM MDT
For those that have longslides, what's your holster preference?
Title: Re: Longslide school
Post by: The_Shadow on April 30 2013 03:37:45 PM MDT
I was going to say, I shot a fly once, then they said that the fly flew away...
I said yes, he flew away, but he will not reproduce!  ;D
Title: Re: Longslide school
Post by: gandog56 on April 30 2013 09:07:26 PM MDT
Quote from: Yondering on March 21 2013 12:54:03 PM MDT
Quote from: gunforhire on January 04 2013 07:49:16 PM MST
I need to go there.  Glock guys, what are you using for components?  I want to do a 6in slide and bbl with a burris Fastfire for hunting and a trail/camping gun.   Would some of you tell me what works and what don't?

Just my opinion, but it's probably not worth the expense of the long slide, if you plan to mount an optic on it. One of the big advantages of the long slide (vs just a 6" barrel) is the increased sight radius; an optic negates that advantage and will work just as well on a stock slide.

I'm a guessing a longer barrel also makes a higher velocity. Or will increased friction negate any gain? Don't know, ain't no engineer.
Title: Re: Longslide school
Post by: sqlbullet on May 02 2013 08:37:25 AM MDT
Quote from: gandog56 on April 30 2013 09:07:26 PM MDT
I'm a guessing a longer barrel also makes a higher velocity. Or will increased friction negate any gain? Don't know, ain't no engineer.

Yep

http://ballisticsbytheinch.com/10mm.html
Title: Re: Longslide school
Post by: Jay/G20 on June 15 2013 04:56:32 PM MDT
trying  out some pics of the G20

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Title: Re: Longslide school
Post by: Jay/G20 on June 15 2013 05:02:03 PM MDT
couple more

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Title: Re: Longslide school
Post by: Jay/G20 on June 15 2013 06:36:28 PM MDT
This is the total cost of my lesson.

Lone Wolf : LWD Slide G20L 10mm  $259.95
                   LWD Refinish 1 slide Black Oxide $ 24.95
                   LWD Blind Marking  $14.95
                   shipping $13.19
Total $313.04

Tungsten Guide Rod  TGR01-B 17lbs. spring  $49.95 free shipping
AmeriGlo Gl-434 pistol sights $83.00
KKM 6" Drop-in $175.00 shipped
Total $307.95

LongSlide package complete  $620.99
Title: Re: Longslide school
Post by: gandog56 on June 15 2013 10:59:37 PM MDT
Quote from: Yondering on March 21 2013 12:55:01 PM MDT
Quote from: gandog56 on March 21 2013 10:57:23 AM MDT
There is like multiple posts of people with Glocks suddenly wanting long slides....I kind of wonder why.

Probably the same reason you wanted a 1911 long slide. Just guessing...

No, I was hoping the one inch sight radius change would make me shoot more accurate. It has fully adjustable rear and red fiber optic pipe front. And I'll probably put on a set of Crimson Trace laser grips, just like my Dan Wesson Razorback. But they don't work too well in broad daylight, and the Razorback sites are fixed.