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Title: Best full power range ammo
Post by: Garthwaite10mm on June 21 2018 04:05:01 PM MDT
Hey Gang,

So I got bit by the 10mm bug (sold my 20 and 29 years ago).  I have a Custom Garthwaite 1911 in 10mm and a Wilson Combat Hunter in 10mm.  I am buying a TRP 10mm tomorrow and have a Dan Wesson Commander being built.  So I'm back. 

My question is: what are the recommendations for FMJ range/training ammo.  I have seen S&B for sale and while not screaming it appears to be reasonably hot.  Any other suggestions?  I gather the Sig ammo is hot but can't find it in stock.  My use for this ammo will be training and I'd like to buy it in 1000 round lots.  Any suggestions would be great.

Damien
Title: Re: Best full power range ammo
Post by: The_Shadow on June 21 2018 07:40:17 PM MDT
Try Fenix Ammo or Sig Ammo
Title: Re: Best full power range ammo
Post by: Chefgerg on June 21 2018 07:43:05 PM MDT
I am sold on the Underwood range line

/www.underwoodammo.com/collections/handgun-ammo/products/range-supply-10mm-auto-180-grain-full-metal-jacket?variant=7875718447161
Title: Re: Best full power range ammo
Post by: Univibe on June 24 2018 10:16:12 PM MDT
I'm using SIG stuff (180 grains at published 1,250) to break in my new Sprg.      Also my handloads which I have not yet chronoed, but feel about the same (13.0 grains AA #9 over 180 grain FMJ).   

The Sig is not quite Norma or Buffalo Bore spec, but is quite a bit stouter than FBI-lite loads.

(Pick up that brass and send it to me!)
Title: Re: Best full power range ammo
Post by: gandog56 on June 26 2018 02:26:01 PM MDT
Best full power?

My OWN, I reload them! ;) ;)
Title: Re: Best full power range ammo
Post by: The_Shadow on June 26 2018 04:10:46 PM MDT
Fenix Ammo might be a full strength value...


https://fenixammo.com/collections/training-ammo/products/10mm-auto-180gr-fmj (https://fenixammo.com/collections/training-ammo/products/10mm-auto-180gr-fmj)
Title: Re: Best full power range ammo
Post by: druryj on July 31 2018 03:55:36 PM MDT
I'm fairly new to 10MM; I've found the S&B 180 gr FMJ to be fairly powerful, more so that Remington, PPU, or Armscor.  The Sig 180 gr FMJ is a little hotter but almost twice as expensive as S&B. I don't have the capability to load my own; as long as I'm finding the S&B for around $15 per box of 50, I think I'm a happy camper.


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Title: Re: Best full power range ammo
Post by: Jason B. on July 31 2018 09:08:26 PM MDT
Quote from: druryj on July 31 2018 03:55:36 PM MDT
I'm fairly new to 10MM; I've found the S&B 180 gr FMJ to be fairly powerful, more so that Remington, PPU, or Armscor.  The Sig 180 gr FMJ is a little hotter but almost twice as expensive as S&B. I don't have the capability to load my own; as long as I'm finding the S&B for around $15 per box of 50, I think I'm a happy camper.


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I know the S&B is not rated that high but out of my G29 it feels stout and very similar to my UW 200 xtp. At roughly $15 a box I'm gonna keep shooting it.
Title: Re: Best full power range ammo
Post by: gandog56 on August 01 2018 02:11:37 PM MDT
Quote from: Garthwaite10mm on June 21 2018 04:05:01 PM MDT
Hey Gang,

So I got bit by the 10mm bug (sold my 20 and 29 years ago).  I have a Custom Garthwaite 1911 in 10mm and a Wilson Combat Hunter in 10mm.  I am buying a TRP 10mm tomorrow and have a Dan Wesson Commander being built.  So I'm back. 

My question is: what are the recommendations for FMJ range/training ammo.  I have seen S&B for sale and while not screaming it appears to be reasonably hot.  Any other suggestions?  I gather the Sig ammo is hot but can't find it in stock.  My use for this ammo will be training and I'd like to buy it in 1000 round lots.  Any suggestions would be great.

Damien

All I can say is I reload 10mm, and I do not trust S&B brass. It is always the FIRST to split or separate. I don't know what alloy they use for their brass, but it pretty much is too brittle after you fire it. I would rather go Prvi Patizan if I was looking for cheap 10mm supply.
Title: Re: Best full power range ammo
Post by: Olgo on August 03 2018 06:04:06 PM MDT
Check out Fenix Ammo. You can't beat this price and the power (1375 fps)

https://fenixammo.com/collections/training-ammo/products/10mm-auto-180gr-fmj
Title: Re: Best full power range ammo
Post by: gandog56 on August 04 2018 01:30:24 PM MDT
Once I was lucky and scored half a box of the original Norma 200 grain load. That stuff was AWESOME. Felt stiffer than the Underwood.
Title: Re: Best full power range ammo
Post by: Olgo on August 04 2018 08:53:22 PM MDT
Norma was well known for being hot stuff back in the days. One remarked that his Norma 38 Special was so hot that it's not even a +P!
Title: Re: Best full power range ammo
Post by: mt10mm on August 05 2018 08:16:00 PM MDT
Quote from: Olgo on August 03 2018 06:04:06 PM MDT
Check out Fenix Ammo. You can't beat this price and the power (1375 fps)

https://fenixammo.com/collections/training-ammo/products/10mm-auto-180gr-fmj

1375 FPS is from 6" barrel. Could someone figure what is would be 4.6" G20 barrel for me?  What barrel length does underwood test his ammo in?
Title: Re: Best full power range ammo
Post by: Olgo on August 05 2018 08:27:08 PM MDT
I think from the 6" barrel too.
Title: Re: Best full power range ammo
Post by: Rojo27 on August 06 2018 06:07:00 AM MDT
Not certain what barrel length Underwood.  However, one could deduce his test platforms are duty sized as in nearly every chronograph test (typically duty sized firearms) on the internet, Underwood comes in very close and not  uncommonly exceeds advertised velocity.   

As compared to Double Tap....  Who must use 9" barreled firearms as test platform to achieve their advertised velocities. 

Buffalo Bore does the absolute best in publishing the test firearm length as well as ballistics tables for various other velocities.  He provides a lot of additional information on his website.  Additionally, the owner personally responds to e-mail questions. 
Title: Re: Best full power range ammo
Post by: tommac919 on August 06 2018 06:08:27 AM MDT
Normally run 10.2-10.4 BD with the 180gr head... G20/3 with 22lb spring

When I want a hot woods round, I use the same load with a 200gr XTP with new Starline brass.
** work up to this load as it is over book and may not work the same in your gun **
Title: Re: Best full power range ammo
Post by: gandog56 on August 11 2018 03:30:16 PM MDT
Quote from: Olgo on August 05 2018 08:27:08 PM MDT
I think from the 6" barrel too.

http://www.ballisticsbytheinch.com/10mm.html
Title: Re: Best full power range ammo
Post by: Univibe on October 24 2018 05:08:09 PM MDT
SIG 180 grain FMJ.     This stuff is advertised at 1250 fps and I believe it, as it feels like my handloads.  Not watered down stuff.   And it's quite a bit cheaper than other brands.
Title: Re: Best full power range ammo
Post by: The_Shadow on October 24 2018 06:00:54 PM MDT
Yes the Sig 10mm FMJ's make their numbers and the pull-down documentations actually showed well too.
My test for velocity 4/2/2015 :D
Glock 29   velocity     1178    case expansion    0.4315"
Glock 20   velocity     1250    case expansion    0.4315"
Glock 20   velocity     1260    case expansion    0.4315"
S&W 1006   velocity     1276    case expansion    0.4265"
S&W 1006   velocity     1286    case expansion    0.4270"
Title: Re: Best full power range ammo
Post by: Hudson on October 24 2018 06:08:10 PM MDT
Underwood uses a 5" barrel,straight from the horses mouth

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Title: Re: Best full power range ammo
Post by: Overkill338 on October 24 2018 09:08:59 PM MDT
Quote from: Rojo27 on August 06 2018 06:07:00 AM MDT
Not certain what barrel length Underwood.  However, one could deduce his test platforms are duty sized as in nearly every chronograph test (typically duty sized firearms) on the internet, Underwood comes in very close and not  uncommonly exceeds advertised velocity.   

As compared to Double Tap....  Who must use 9" barreled firearms as test platform to achieve their advertised velocities. 

Buffalo Bore does the absolute best in publishing the test firearm length as well as ballistics tables for various other velocities.  He provides a lot of additional information on his website.  Additionally, the owner personally responds to e-mail questions.

Underwood uses a variety of guns. But in 10mm they use 5" barrels. Justin told me this 2 years ago.