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Title: Anyone ever hear of a .41 ACP??
Post by: Ascension on December 27 2012 11:35:13 PM MST
I handled a NICE looking and feeling Tanfoglio stainless today that was clearly labeled .41 ACP on the barrel at a local gun shop. The owner can not find ammo any where for it. A .40 round chambered but was short and looked like the bullet was just a little loose in the bore. Never heard of a .41 ACP and Google came up with nada so anybody here know anything??
Title: Re: Anyone ever hear of a .41 ACP??
Post by: Patriot on December 28 2012 02:20:11 AM MST
 :o

Just the barrel was labeled? Most Tanfoglios have the caliber stamped on the slide or frame. I have seen a .45 that looked like .41 after a polish job, part of the 5 got rubbed off and it looked like a 1.
Title: Re: Anyone ever hear of a .41 ACP??
Post by: Ascension on December 28 2012 03:23:54 AM MST
It was stamped on the slide as well as the barrel and was the "wonder finish " they have so it was not polished. I'm wondering if it could have been a .41 AE or Action Express??
Title: Re: Anyone ever hear of a .41 ACP??
Post by: sqlbullet on December 28 2012 05:53:52 AM MST
Almost certainly it was supposed to read 41 AE.  I can't speculate as to how it became acp.  They did make the Witness in that caliber and it's dimensions would result in a chamber and bore that you describe.
Title: Re: Anyone ever hear of a .41 ACP??
Post by: The_Shadow on December 28 2012 09:51:41 AM MST
I would suspect it to be a 41AE (Action Express)... ???
Title: Re: Anyone ever hear of a .41 ACP??
Post by: REDLINE on December 28 2012 12:49:42 PM MST
I don't know anything about a .41 ACP.  What  I'm curious about is the age of the gun which might help toward knowing the era of the round toward finding out more about it.

Another thing;  ACP, afaik, stands for Automatic Colt Pistol.  I wonder if Colt had a firearm chambered for it at one point?  Or maybe I just have no idea what I'm talking about. ;D
Title: Re: Anyone ever hear of a .41 ACP??
Post by: Patriot on December 28 2012 03:04:22 PM MST
Maybe it was a custom job, mislabed. .41 AE like others have stated.
Title: Re: Anyone ever hear of a .41 ACP??
Post by: DM1906 on December 28 2012 04:47:57 PM MST
Certainly has to be a typo.  There are only a few .41 variants, and ACP isn't one of them.  Colt hasn't authored a .41 in this century, or the last one.  The .41 long and short Colts (1877) were .387" bore.  Both were a heeled cartridge, so about as far from ACP as a centerfire Colt ever was.  As said above, .41AE is the most likely suspect.  There were several 9mm conversion options for this round (I toyed with it about 1990), but the .40S&W made it essentially obsolete.
Title: Re: Anyone ever hear of a .41 ACP??
Post by: sqlbullet on December 29 2012 07:10:40 AM MST
I have read rumors that JMB toyed with the idea of a 1903 chambered in a 40/41 caliber gun, but as far as I can tell, they are just that...Rumors.  Similar rumors exist about the what became the Hi-Power.

Of course, the Hi Power was the base gun for Col Coopers and companies first 40, the 40 G&A back in the early 70's.
Title: Re: Anyone ever hear of a .41 ACP??
Post by: The_Shadow on December 29 2012 09:14:49 AM MST
Interesting facts about the 41 AE on Wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.41_Action_Express (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.41_Action_Express)

This cartridge had a 9mm sized extractor rim (rebated rim), it was also necked down to 9mm (9 mm Action Express wildcat) to near 357Mag velocities, This move anticipated the parallel development of the 357Sig cartridge.