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Firearms => 10mm semi-auto handguns => Topic started by: Kenk on March 31 2018 07:05:57 PM MDT

Title: Another question on the Smith 1006
Post by: Kenk on March 31 2018 07:05:57 PM MDT
What are the top reasons folks buy / like the 1006?, reliably, their history, ability to withstand full house loads....or other?
Thanks

Ken
Title: Re: Another question on the Smith 1006
Post by: sqlbullet on March 31 2018 07:45:16 PM MDT
I don't have one.  I have been tempted many times and I regret not snagging one years ago when they were $500.

At this point I gotta think alot of the draw is owning the history.  They are great, solid guns, but there are not any new parts being made.  That means, at least to me, that I am not gonna carry it or run it hard.  It would be a reference platform.

I think the "heir" to the 1006 is probably the DA/SA P220.  Similar capacity, operation, etc.
Title: Re: Another question on the Smith 1006
Post by: Canoe on March 31 2018 08:32:56 PM MDT
I think you have mentioned the main reasons.  It is a 10mm classic and built to handle a steady diet of full power magnums.  I had one and quite liked having it as part of a collection.  I'd say it was an average shooter (higher bore access, gritty heavyish trigger which of course can be rectified) and not the last word in refinement (fitting not particularly precise, finishing average, not particularlty smooth).  In fairness they were never meant to be anything more than a good utility gun.  As a DA/SA with a decocker, it think it would be a great woods gun, if you don't like Glocks and are ok with a single stack.  But as above, parts not being made so running hard with heavy ammo might not worth it as there are other options and these are fetching more and more on the used market. 

Don't get me wrong, I really like the gun, but there are several other nice 10mms that have come out since.
Title: Re: Another question on the Smith 1006
Post by: Kenk on April 01 2018 06:42:22 AM MDT
Thanks folks!
Title: Re: Another question on the Smith 1006
Post by: The_Shadow on April 01 2018 08:47:18 AM MDT
This is what confirmed my purchase of the 1006 early on back in 1990
http://10mm-firearms.com/10mm-semi-auto-handguns/sw10xx-series-information/msg1632/#msg1632 (http://10mm-firearms.com/10mm-semi-auto-handguns/sw10xx-series-information/msg1632/#msg1632)
Title: Re: Another question on the Smith 1006
Post by: Hamopr on April 05 2018 06:20:11 AM MDT
After reading the history of the 10xx series I decided to hunt for one. Lucked out getting one in Columbus which made it an in-state transaction, no shipping or FFL involvement. I have about $1k
invested including new Hogue grips and new stainless guide rod.

Picked up a 1066 from CO and had to pay a bit more but it was like new in the original box.

Lucked into a like new in the box 610 4" revolver from a LEO, only 50 rounds through it and got it less than $1k.

As mentioned above, these guns are built like tanks and while they will handle full power loads I'll likely use them with reloads at a bit less power. I'll hang on to them for a few years but will sell them one day as there is no one in the family that would appreciate ownership.
Title: Re: Another question on the Smith 1006
Post by: sqlbullet on April 05 2018 11:12:34 AM MDT
I could be adopted if you need a 10mm heir   :P
Title: Re: Another question on the Smith 1006
Post by: lugersdaddy on September 01 2018 03:32:57 PM MDT


I have a 1006 which I bought new when they first came out. It's fun to shoot, but the recoil is considerable and it's just to heavy to ever carry concealed. But, it's a good home defense gun
and also good for auto defense protection when you're traveling. I attach it to gun magnets on
the side of my car's console.
Title: Re: Another question on the Smith 1006
Post by: The_Shadow on September 01 2018 09:04:08 PM MDT
Hello and welcome lugersdaddy to the forum!  I too have the 1006 and it was my first 10mm at the start of 1990 and I handloaded for it from day one developed loads that were not in manuals till later on.  It is on the heavy side, while mine still sports the original style factory grip, the Hogue rubber grips can really help with recoil as I have them on other 10xx series models.  One thing is for certain they are built like tanks and handle heavy loads well.   ;D

Best regards and enjoy the forum...
Title: Re: Another question on the Smith 1006
Post by: MajorDude on October 17 2018 05:23:51 AM MDT
That's a good question. I have a 1006 and a G20sf that I usually shoot side by side. The 1006 is less accurate, has noticeably worse recoil and a gritty trigger. If I'm testing warm handloads or ladder testing, I use the Glock because I trust it more and I could fix it if I break it. That being said, I love that 1006! I recently got 2 extra factory magazines for it after an over a year hunt and I was almost too excited! I guess maybe I'm an S&W collector.
Title: Re: Another question on the Smith 1006
Post by: PCFlorida on October 17 2018 03:25:33 PM MDT
Quote from: MajorDude on October 17 2018 05:23:51 AM MDT
That's a good question. I have a 1006 and a G20sf that I usually shoot side by side. The 1006 is less accurate, has noticeably worse recoil and a gritty trigger. If I'm testing warm handloads or ladder testing, I use the Glock because I trust it more and I could fix it if I break it. That being said, I love that 1006! I recently got 2 extra factory magazines for it after an over a year hunt and I was almost too excited! I guess maybe I'm an S&W collector.
LOL!
I had most of the 10 family from S&W and a huge number of magazines. I sold them off because parts started getting scarce. While I miss them I have certainly replaced them all with other 10mm guns.
Title: Re: Another question on the Smith 1006
Post by: Overkill338 on October 23 2018 11:36:08 AM MDT
I was always under the impression the 1006 basically beat itself apart with real 10mm ammo.
Title: Re: Another question on the Smith 1006
Post by: Ten2six on October 23 2018 12:38:28 PM MDT
I have put several thousand full power hand loads through my 1026 with no issues. I recently purchased a 1006 to shoot regularly. Sadly my 1026 has become a safe queen due to the low production numbers and the increased value.
Title: Re: Another question on the Smith 1006
Post by: sqlbullet on October 23 2018 02:32:54 PM MDT
Quote from: Overkill338 on October 23 2018 11:36:08 AM MDT
I was always under the impression the 1006 basically beat itself apart with real 10mm ammo.

Nope.

This impression comes from the issues the FBI had with their 1006's and 1076's. This is from memory as I am too lazy today to go look up sources.  FBI wanted the trigger pull modified slightly.  S&W did so, but rushed the testing a bit and didn't notice that in a very rare comedy of errors the drawbar could get hung up in a way the didn't allow it to get un-hung up.  Happened to 6 or 7 pistols IIRC.  S&W fixed this, along with the bur on the extractor issue that caused some extractors to chip.

However, politics were afoot.  S&W really wanted the FBI to adopt their new 40S&W cartridge.  And not without good reason.  The FBI load could be duplicated in much smaller and lighter guns using the 40S&W.  And agents hated the weight of the 3rd gen S&W auto's.

A few very small teething pains with the 1076 gave those who wanted a change plenty of rope to hang the 1076.  And they did.

But the reality is the 10X6 guns are actually heck for strong.
Title: Re: Another question on the Smith 1006
Post by: TonyRumore on October 24 2018 05:35:09 PM MDT
Quote from: Overkill338 on October 23 2018 11:36:08 AM MDT
I was always under the impression the 1006 basically beat itself apart with real 10mm ammo.

That's complete B.S.

Tony


Title: Re: Another question on the Smith 1006
Post by: The_Shadow on October 24 2018 07:14:46 PM MDT
Quote from: TonyRumore on October 24 2018 05:35:09 PM MDT
Quote from: Overkill338 on October 23 2018 11:36:08 AM MDT
I was always under the impression the 1006 basically beat itself apart with real 10mm ammo.

That's complete B.S.

Tony

Tony, I have to agree, I have been beating up on my S&W1006 with all sorts of 10mm ammo testing many of the commercially made heavy duty stuff and duplicating them as well and have handloaded for mine since day one early1990.  I also have Bar-Sto 40S&W and a 9x25Dilllon conversion barrels that get used in the 1006 as well.  No issues, only thing I changes was to a Wolff 22 lbs recoil spring to help brass stay a little closer and out of orbit!
Title: Re: Another question on the Smith 1006
Post by: sqlbullet on October 25 2018 09:30:51 AM MDT
I have removed a post here that was over the line.  Keep it civil.
Title: Re: Another question on the Smith 1006
Post by: Overkill338 on October 25 2018 07:09:56 PM MDT
Quote from: sqlbullet on October 25 2018 09:30:51 AM MDT
I have removed a post here that was over the line.  Keep it civil.

I'm sorry, I do apologize. I thought their was a language filter to cover it. I will do like Tony and abbreviate my curse words.
Title: Re: Another question on the Smith 1006
Post by: sqlbullet on October 26 2018 08:15:01 AM MDT
As a forum we don't really care about curse words per se.

Tony's comment is directed at the content of your post.  Your comment could be construed as being directed at Tony personally.  That is the line I felt was crossed, not the swearing.

Let's just consider this portion of the thread closed and move on.  We are all friends here and should be generous in our allowances.
Title: Re: Another question on the Smith 1006
Post by: Pablo on October 26 2018 08:22:48 AM MDT
My 1006, almost new.....just a little drawer rash. Price I could not pass up. Built like a tank, reasonably accurate.
Title: Re: Another question on the Smith 1006
Post by: Rick R on October 26 2018 11:06:07 AM MDT
IMHO The S&W 1006 was part of the generation of S&W semiautos that were the pinnacle of quality.  I was issued one and we had about 80 officers carrying them.  I was privileged to attend an armorers school at the S&W Academy and that generation of guns is basically hand fitted.  We were first taught how to use a file and the proper way to ream a hole. Then we got to play with real guns.

We carried them for several years and mine had a few thousand of gov't supplied ammo thru it.  The only wear I could find was a burr on the ramped part of the frame where the barrel strikes it during recoil. A couple of the other instructors guns exhibited the same wear but it didn't appear to affect accuracy or reliability.   One instructor at the State Academy confided that he loved to see our guys show up because he would "function check" their 1006s which were stored in the Armory.  He claimed he'd never seen a more accurate bunch of pistols.

The FBI asked S&W to build a SIGish pistol in the 1076 and S&W tried. But when the parts on those guns began to wear the 1076s showed a disturbing tendency to lock up. Once locked they had to go back to S&W but since they were usually loaded this created a logistical nightmare.   About the same time the FBI realized that their attorney/accountant agents weren't happy with a gun as big as the 10xx series and 40 Short&Weak became the new darling for law enforcement. 

I wish I had purchased my 1006 when we traded them in but I had a wife, two kids and a baby mortgage along with itty bitty pay checks back then.
Title: Re: Another question on the Smith 1006
Post by: Overkill338 on October 26 2018 04:40:37 PM MDT
My cousin had a great looking 1006. I've tried to get it from him, but no go.