How's about starting a Favorite loads thread for our 10's? This would NOT be discussion about components or techniques, JUST data. Please make any pertinent comments about your load (MAX, compressed, hunting, self-defense, etc.). My suggestion would be to include the bullet weight in the subject line to make it easier to find what you're looking for? Template coming....
Sound like a plan???
BULLET WEIGHT:
CASE MFR.:
PRIMER:
POWDER:
CHARGE WEIGHT:
OVERALL CARTRIDGE LENGTH:
VELOCITY:
OTHER DETAILS:
BULLET WEIGHT: 200 Hornady XTP
CASE MFR.: Starline
PRIMER: WW LPR
POWDER: BLUE DOT
CHARGE WEIGHT: 9.4
OVERALL CARTRIDGE LENGTH: 1.255
VELOCITY: 1292
OTHER DETAILS: Safe in my stock G20SF
BULLET WEIGHT: 180 Hornady XTP / HAP
CASE MFR.: Starline
PRIMER: Winchester LPP
POWDER: BLUE DOT
CHARGE WEIGHT: 10.4
OVERALL CARTRIDGE LENGTH: 1.255
Other details - stock G20 / gen 4 with KKM factory length barrel
BULLET WEIGHT: 200 grain Speer Gold Dot (hopefully the newer ones become handloading components)
CASE MFR.: Starline, Federal
PRIMER: CCI 350
POWDER: Hodgdon Longshot
CHARGE WEIGHT: 9.2 grains (handweighed)
OVERALL CARTRIDGE LENGTH: 1.2500"
VELOCITY: 1235 fps
OTHER DETAILS: Speer 200gr Gold Dot HP 9.2gr's Longshot Tested by me from the S&W 1006 with 22 lbs Wolff recoil spring making 1230 to 1240 fps
Tested by Jesse Atkins (Intercooler)
Limited Pro 4.75 Speer 200gr Gold Dot HP 9.2gr's Long Shot 1235, 1248, 1211, 1252, 1239. Average = 1237 FPS/ 680 LBS Nice!
Bullet on the left is #53883 Bullet on the right is #54000
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This pet load thing is an awesome idea
BULLET WEIGHT: 180 Xtreme heavy plate enforce
CASE MFR.:Starlne
PRIMER:Remington
POWDER:Blue Dot
CHARGE WEIGHT: 10.4
OVERALL CARTRIDGE LENGTH: 1.25
VELOCITY:
OTHER DETAILS: very accurate in stock g20-3
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Do you like the Xtreme heavy plate?
Quote from: Kenk on March 23 2018 01:27:24 AM MDT
Do you like the Xtreme heavy plate?
I find it just as good in my G20 as the fmj Remington and Montana Gold jacket... price is pretty good too.
Have pulled some after shooting to find no issues and with plating fully intact.
Will have to look into them, Thanks
BULLET WEIGHT: 175 grains
CASE MFR.: Mixed
PRIMER: CCI 300
POWDER: Blue Dot
CHARGE WEIGHT: 10.4 grains
OVERALL CARTRIDGE LENGTH: 1.2500"
VELOCITY: 1180 - 1200 fps
OTHER DETAILS: RCBS 175 grain Cast TC SWC and the LYMAN 175 grain Cast TCBB were my all around target play bullets with Rooster Lab Red Zambini till that ran out (no longer made) and now with White Label Carnauba Red Lube
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Firearm S&W 1006
BULLET WEIGHT:Remington 155 JHP
CASE MFR.:Winchester primed case
POWDER:IMR SR4756
CHARGE WEIGHT:10.0
OVERALL CARTRIDGE LENGTH: ?
VELOCITY:1360 Avg.
OTHER DETAILS:IMR SR4756 no longer manufactured,I have a good supply,use it for 9mm,38sp,357M,40S&W,10mm,41M,44sp,44M
BULLET WEIGHT:Remington 155 JHP
CASE MFR.:Winchester primed case
POWDER:IMR SR4756
CHARGE WEIGHT:8.0
OVERALL CARTRIDGE LENGTH:?
VELOCITY:1150 Avg
OTHER DETAILS:reduced 10mm load to approximate 40S&W ballistics
oldman10mm...Yes it is a shame they discontinued the SR-4756 as it had great uses across the board for many cartridges.
IMR SR-4756 & & SR-7625 were the very few single base powders left.
Those are the only two I use,I have a large supply of both as I started buying them when Hodgdon put out the discontinued notice. You'd be surprised how many still unopened containers are still out there.
Started out with 2400 for the Magnums and tried 4756 to get a cleaner burning powder. 4756 gave me the same chronograph figures and burned clean. 7625 is for 38sp and 44sp light target loads. I find that 4756 can be loaded past max recommended without primer cratering and case head expansion and also can be used for 'reduced' loads. My 'nuclear' loads are 4756. Also works fine for the range of projectiles from 95-158 in 357.
BULLET WEIGHT: Montana Bullet Works 200 Grain WFNPB
CASE MFR.: Starline
PRIMER: CCI 300
POWDER: Blue Dot
CHARGE WEIGHT: 9.5 grains
OVERALL CARTRIDGE LENGTH: 1.240
VELOCITY: 1196 fps average velocity
OTHER DETAILS: Chronographed through an STI Perfect 10 with 6 inch barrel. Bullet sized to .401. The charge weight of Blue Dot could safely be increased a little more in this load.
Glock G40 OEM 6" barrel
BULLET WEIGHT: 165gr Rainier Plated
CASE MFR.: Starline
PRIMER: CCI300
POWDER: Alliant Power Pistol
CHARGE WEIGHT: 8.4 grains
OVERALL CARTRIDGE LENGTH: 1.250"
VELOCITY: 1267 fps
OTHER DETAILS: Good plinking/target round with very good bullet stability/accuracy to 75 yds
Glock G40 with 7" KKM barrel
BULLET WEIGHT: 200 gr Hornady XTP
CASE MFR.: Starline
PRIMER: CCI350
POWDER: Accurate #9
CHARGE WEIGHT: 12.8 gr. (12.5 gr in Glock OEM 6" barrel)
OVERALL CARTRIDGE LENGTH: 1.260"
VELOCITY: 1302 fps (1228 fps in Glock OEM 6" barrel)
OTHER DETAILS: Excellent Black Bear Defense/Hunting load. Glock OEM RSA spring a bit light for 7" barrel, might experience slide-frame slam without heavier spring.
Sure love reading these load workups. Thanks to all posters.
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BULLET WEIGHT: 180gr Berrys FP/Hornady XTP 180GR HP
CASE MFR.: Starline
PRIMER:CCI #300 LPP
POWDER: Blue Dot
CHARGE WEIGHT:10.4 gr
OVERALL CARTRIDGE LENGTH:1.257"
VELOCITY: I don't own a crony
OTHER DETAILS: Very accurate out of stock G-20 Gen4
Load may be over book! Work up your loads!
BULLET WEIGHT: 155 Montana Gold HP
CASE MFR.: Starline
PRIMER: CCI 300
POWDER: #7
CHARGE WEIGHT: 13.0
OVERALL CARTRIDGE LENGTH: 1.255
VELOCITY: 1,469
OTHER DETAILS: G20.4 Dasan 5.15" 20#. Accurate and snappy :)
Load may be over book! Work up your loads!
BULLET WEIGHT: 140 Bayou TC
CASE MFR.: Starline
PRIMER: CCI 300
POWDER: GM3
CHARGE WEIGHT: 5.0
OVERALL CARTRIDGE LENGTH: 1.250
VELOCITY: 1,011
OTHER DETAILS: G20.4 Dasan 5.15" 24# DAT v2. Drops brass at your feet, stupid accurate :)
(http://10mm-reloaded.com/dumping_ground/GM3_target.jpg)
I'll say that's accurate! 8)
Just loaded a batch of 11.5 grains of blue dot with the 150 nosler jhp,new starline brass and a cci 300 to set if off. If they shoot good which I think they will by all the great reports on blue dot it could be a pet load for the 20!
Wow those had some thump lol! Pretty accurate also although I might back it down by a couple tenths.
BULLET WEIGHT: 180gr.
BULLET MFR-STYLE Hornady XTP
CASE MFR: Starline
PRIMER: Rem 2½
CHARGE WEIGHT: 10.1grs.
C.O.L. 1.260"
VELOCITY: 1251 fps
OTHER DETAILS: matches Buffalo Bore 180gr JHP performance
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BULLET WEIGHT: 180gr.
BULLET MFR-STYLE: Speer TMJ
CASE MFR.: Starline
PRIMER: Rem 2½
POWDER: 3N37
CHARGE WEIGHT: 9.3grs.
OVERALL CARTRIDGE LENGTH: 1.260"
VELOCITY: 1187 fps
OTHER DETAILS: Nice all-around shooting load
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BULLET WEIGHT: 204grs.
BULLET MFR/STYLE: RCBS swc cast
PRIMER: CCI 300
POWDER: BLUE DOT
CHARGE WEIGHT: 9.5grs.
C.O.L.: 1.260"
VELOCITY: 1134 fps
OTHER DETAILS: NICE WOODS CARRY LOAD
SIZED .401"
LYMAN ORANGE MAGIC LUBE
ALLOY; 50/50 LINO/WW
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5½" CIRCLE; 25 YARDS
Chalk up another 10.4 grns BlueDot, 180grn Berrys/XTP, COAL 1.255, Starline brass, CCI LPP, load. I don't have the chronograph data anymore, but I remember it was just under the 1250fps limit of the Berry's bullet out of my Delta Elite.
BULLET WEIGHT: 180gr HAP
CASE MFR.: Starline, other
PRIMER: Winchester, others
POWDER: Longshot
CHARGE WEIGHT: 10-10.5gr
OVERALL CARTRIDGE LENGTH: 1.258" (from memory - didn't go look) - but I know I have gone shorter....... :o
VELOCITY: TBD
OTHER DETAILS: This is a gassy load for my 10mm DI AR. Fat walled, tight, fully enclosed chamber - no signs of overpressure.
BULLET WEIGHT: Lee 401- 175 grain cast using WW
CASE MFR.: Starline
PRIMER: WLP
POWDER: Longshot
CHARGE WEIGHT: 8 grains
OVERALL CARTRIDGE LENGTH:1.260"
VELOCITY: 1205 FPS, ES: 24. SD: 8
OTHER DETAILS: RIA 1911, Model 52,000 with a 6" bull barrel
BULLET WEIGHT: 180gr.
BULLET MFR/STYLE: Hornady XTP
PRIMER: CCI 300
BRASS: Starline
POWDER: AA #9
CHARGE WEIGHT: 14.9grs.
c.O.L.: 1.260"
VELOCITY: 1266 fps
OTHER DETAILS: One of the most accurate loads I shoot in the G20-SF
Five round group. 25 yds. Bottom hole is two rounds.
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Awesome report RDub01, It has always amazed me how accurate Blue Dot is...and not just in 10mm. I first started using Blue Dot in my 44Mag and 357Mag and 12 gauge in 1978. With almost every bullet combination cast, cast with gas checks and jacketed they were deadly accurate. The S&W Mod 29 nickel 8 3/8" iron target sights, could hit 1" groups even at 100 yards and it was scary that other guys who shot with me, put their scoped rifles away as I shot the RCBS cast 240 Grain Silhouette with gas checks...hand weighed 16.2 grains was the magic load for that combination.
One day my brother-in-law and I were shooting and I had stabbed a 3/4" wide ripping of wood in the ground at the 100 yard berm, for the heck of it. I shot it with the 44Mag 240gr mentioned above and when we checked the stick, it had a hole about 2" down from the top almost dead center of the 3/4" wide ripping, the hole seemed small for such a big bullet and he said that I didn't shoot that hole...
The next setup to shoot again, I shot the stick again, almost the exact same hole, we were both amazed how accurate the shots were.
Oh to be young, strong and have my hawkeye sight again...BTW, Tested Newly loaded 44's against stuff @ 1370 fps, against stuff loaded back in 1979 1360 fps.
Yep.. Burned a lot of Blue Dot over the years!..
When I first started loading in earnest, about 1969 or so, There were three handgun powders.. Bullseye, Unique and 2400. I soon discovered H-110 and Blue Dot and the rest is history..
Lately though I've discovered how useful AA #9 is in 44 mag as well with jacketed bullets. I got some pretty amazing loads with #9. Even better than 2400, H-110, 296, or MP300.
Howdy good folks.
G40MOS.
Stock Barrel, trigger polish, Vortex 3moa reddot.
Have tried a variety of bullets and boolits, powders, primers, etc.
Best so far:
Starline Brass
Fed 150 Primer
12.5 gr AA#9
Arsenal Molds 403-200 WFN PC-this mold is completely amazing, best I have ever owned.
Sized 0.4035", tumble and bake PC, size again to 0.4035"
LEE FCD with guts removed used on previously fired brass to remove bulge.
1.250" OAL
Very light crimp, enough to pass plunk test without crimping down boolit.
Not sure on velocity, but swings my 8" steel plates very hard, I don't ultimately care just about velocity, just wanted accuracy at the higher end. I may put them over the chrony some time I guess.
Sitting on my very short hunting chair, with my hands/wrists between my knees, at 75 yards, I can put 3 or 5 shot groups usually within 2-4 inches, sometimes 2 or 3 are nearly touching.
Hundreds of rounds and the same result, hold steady, take my time, and watch the paint come off the target near the last one.
Its nuts, if I can hold still enough and have a consistent grip it hits the plates every time at 75 yards, and at 50 yards it feels like a gimme. I plan to work out to 100 yards or maybe more over the summer.
Have not spent time shooting for groups at 25 yards, but I should I guess just to see what it would do, I bet lots of them might almost touch...
This g40 is SO MUCH FUN! I sold my SBH 44 after I bought this 10mm, it'll do everything I need a handgun to do.
This is a totally great forum, and I owe most of the success of this load to the info I got here over the last year.
Dan
BULLET WEIGHT: Berry's 155 HB-FP
CASE MFR.: Frderal
PRIMER: CCI LP
POWDER: AA-9
CHARGE WEIGHT: 15.0
OVERALL CARTRIDGE LENGTH: 1.255"
VELOCITY: 1135
OTHER DETAILS: Glock 40
BULLET WEIGHT: Speer 165 Gold Dot
CASE MFR.: Federal
PRIMER: Winchester LP
POWDER: AA-9
CHARGE WEIGHT: 14.0
OVERALL CARTRIDGE LENGTH: 1.250"
VELOCITY: 1218 (G40) 1276 (Kimber STII 5")
OTHER DETAILS: 15.0 flattened primers...
BULLET WEIGHT: Speer Gold Dot HP
CASE MFR.: Federal
PRIMER: Winchester LP
POWDER: Power Pistol
CHARGE WEIGHT: 10.0
OVERALL CARTRIDGE LENGTH: 1.250"
VELOCITY: 1276 (PARA Hunter 6") 1303 (Kimber STII 5") 1300 (Glock 20 LW barrel)
OTHER DETAILS: This combination was really "screwy" 9.0, 9.5 and 10.0 all were within 20 fps of each other in all the guns. So one really only needs 9.0 grains.
BULLET WEIGHT: Berry's 155 HB-FP
CASE MFR.: Winchester
PRIMER: CCI LP
POWDER: Power Pistol
CHARGE WEIGHT: 9.0
OVERALL CARTRIDGE LENGTH: 1.260"
VELOCITY: 1175
OTHER DETAILS: Glock 20 LW barrel
BULLET WEIGHT: 165 Speer GD HP
CASE MFR.: Federal
PRIMER: CCI LP
POWDER: Power Pistol
CHARGE WEIGHT: 9.1
OVERALL CARTRIDGE LENGTH: 1.250"
VELOCITY: 1220
OTHER DETAILS: Glock 20 LW barrel
BULLET WEIGHT: Berry's 155 HB-FP
CASE MFR.: Winchester
PRIMER: CCI LP
POWDER: Winchester 540
CHARGE WEIGHT: 15.5
OVERALL CARTRIDGE LENGTH: 1.260"
VELOCITY: 1150
OTHER DETAILS: Glock 20 LW barrel
BULLET WEIGHT: 200 Montana WFN
CASE MFR.: Starline
PRIMER: Winchester LP
POWDER: Longshot
CHARGE WEIGHT: 8.6
OVERALL CARTRIDGE LENGTH: 1.230
VELOCITY: 1210
OTHER DETAILS: RIA 1911 4.25"
Just stumbled on a couple nice loads with a generic 165gr FMJ
BULLET WEIGHT: 165
CASE MFR.: Winchester
PRIMER: CCI300
POWDER: BE-86
CHARGE WEIGHT: 8.0
OVERALL CARTRIDGE LENGTH: 1.260"
VELOCITY: 1150 fps
OTHER DETAILS: G20-SF Vortex Viper; 25 yds.
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BULLET WEIGHT: 165
CASE MFR.: SIG
PRIMER: FED 155
POWDER: AA #7
CHARGE WEIGHT: 12.0
OVERALL CARTRIDGE LENGTH: 1.260"
VELOCITY: 1260 fps
OTHER DETAILS: G20-SF Vortex Viper; 25 yds.
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BULLET WEIGHT: Hornady 155 XTP
CASE MFR.: Underwood
PRIMER: Winchester LPP
POWDER: BE-86
CHARGE WEIGHT: 9.3
VERALL CARTRIDGE LENGTH: 1.255
VELOCITY: 1420 avg
OTHER DETAILS: Alliant max load
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Quote from: RDub01 on April 26 2018 07:55:34 AM MDT
BULLET WEIGHT: 180gr.
BULLET MFR/STYLE: Hornady XTP
PRIMER: CCI 300
BRASS: Starline
POWDER: AA #9
CHARGE WEIGHT: 14.9grs.
c.O.L.: 1.260"
VELOCITY: 1266 fps
OTHER DETAILS: One of the most accurate loads I shoot in the G20-SF
Five round group. 25 yds. Bottom hole is two rounds.
(https://s20.postimg.cc/ap22cn5z1/180gr_Horn_XTP_14.9_AA_9.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
Woof, 14.9? Accurate's max is 13.5? :o
Thanks for the great work ups, they are incredibly beneficial
Ken
Terminator
Hornady manual shows 14.9grs max with AA #9 for 180gr Hornady bullets.
Case expansion measurements are always at or under .4340" depending on temp..
Yes, the latest Western manuals show 13.5grs.
LEE 2nd and older Ranshot manuals show 14.5grs.
The load I've always shot in a G29--14.5 #9/180 coated/KKM barrel.
Originally, I was a fan of mid range book value for Longshot under a 180 grain JHP. It's good for about 1250-1275 out of my Kimber. Lately I've gone to 200 grain FMJ and BE-86
The loads I've settled on, though I'm certainly not done experimenting. All velocities are the averages of ten-shot groups. My priorities are Reliability, Accuracy, Velocity, in that order.
Across the board I use mixed brass if used, Starline if new, and Winchester WLP primers.
Biped Defense Load:
200gr Speer Gold Dot over 8.0 grains of Hi-Skor 800X
= 1172 fps from a 6" KKM barrel, and 1188 fps from the 8" Banshee barrel.
This was my starting load for a couple hundred 200 grain Gold Dot's I came across, and while I intended to go hotter, I liked the accuracy and the recoil and the SD was excellent, so I just stopped at 8.0 grains. Frankly, I think that the 10mm is overkill for bipeds and the extra recoil works against the cartridge, so while you can push this bullet to 1250 or even 1300 fps from a 6" barrel, I think that in many ways doing so is counterproductive. I'm not a big 800X fan...too difficult to work with. But I have a pound of it that I'll only use on "special" loads since every charge has to be hand weighed, so I figured this was a good time to use it.
Quadruped Defense Load:
226 grain Rim Rock hard-cast flat nose bullet (sold as 220 grain, but weighs consistently higher) over 7.0 grains of Longshot.
= 1086 fps from the 6" KKM barrel, 1133 fps from the 8" Banshee barrel, and 1005 fps from a stock Glock 29.
Once again, this load could be a 100+ fps hotter, and I've proven it. But what I ran into with hotter loads was both excessive recoil, and frequent malfunctions in the Glock's regardless of which recoil spring I use if my grip wasn't perfect. Any load that won't function weak-handed is NOT suitable for a defense load in my opinion. I guess if the 100 fps I'm leaving on the table is a deal breaker, I just brought the wrong gun. I'll take reliability and accuracy over velocity any day of the week, and twice on Friday.
Animal Depredation Load:
200 Grain Hornady XTP over 9.3 grains of Blue Dot
= 1223 fps from a 6" KKM barrel, and 1276 fps from the 8" Banshee barrel.
I don't hunt anymore, but if I had the need to kill a large animal with my 10mm, this load is a good one. It's VERY accurate. The XTP doesn't expand as much as the Gold Dot, so it penetrates deeper. I think it's the best expanding woods bullet on the market today. LongShot might get the bullet going a bit faster, but the Blue Dot is so accurate that I've never seen any reason to find out.
Plinking Loads:
I shoot a lot more plinking loads than anything else, and my go-to bullet for the past couple years has been Blue Bullets. They're accurate, economical, and clean. While I like heavy bullets in 10mm, I shoot mostly 165 grain Blue Bullets, simply because you get more of them for the same price compared to heavier bullets. The vast majority of 165 grain loads I have are for .40 S&W, since that's what I compete with, but I still use them for 10mm.
200 grain Blue Bullet over 8.5 grains of Blue Dot.
= 1100 fps from 6" KKM, and 1210 fps from the 8" Banshee barrel.
The accuracy is good in the KKM, and very good in the Banshee. It's a gentile load that's easy on the brass, easy on the gun, and easy on the shooter. The brass lasts forever with this load, and when you're shooting thousands of rounds a year, that matters. It certainly could be bumped up higher, but when you're just ringing steel, what's the point?
165 grain Blue Bullet over 9.7 grains of Power Pistol
= 1349 fps from a 6" KKM barrel, and 1421 fps from the Banshee.
From the KKM it's marginally accurate...nothing special, unfortunately. But from the Banshee it's a freaking one-hole-wonder. I've yet to find a 165 grain load that both the KKM and the Banshee barrels love...seems it's either-or, but not both. I'll keep working on it.
Other Loads:
Some other loads have proven to be very good performers, though not part of my daily loading schedule.
180 grain laser cast over 9.1 grains of HS-6 = 1200 fps from a 6" KKM barrel and 1290 fps from the Banshee. Accuracy out of the Banshee is super-good, and that bullet is HARD. It actually makes indents in my AR500 Steel Challenge targets, and no other bullet does.
11 grains of AA-9 under a 200 grain Rim Rock or Blue Bullet gives 1100 /1150 fps from the pistol and Banshee respectively. I like the accuracy, but it's a comparatively expensive load for plinking due to the cost and volume of AA-9.
None of these loads are fire breathers. After a faze of trying to load the hottest rounds possible, I realized that I was ruining my brass, battering my guns, compromising reliability and slowing down my shooting for somewhat negligible gains. Part of the beauty of the 10mm is that you can shoot it fast, but the more it recoils, the slower it shoots. I can see making that compromise, but to me reliability is king, and the nuclear loads have proven to be less reliable in my experience. 165 is the start of major power factor for USPSA scoring, and a 200 grain bullet going 1200 fps makes 240 power factor...if that's not enough poop then I think it's time to switch to a magnum revolver rather than trying to milk another 10% out of the 10mm cartridge.
Bullet - 200gr Gold Dot
Brass - Starling
Primer -CCI 300 LP
Powder - Longshot
Charge - 8.0gr
OAL - 1.250
Velocity - avg 1200fps
Gun - Springfield RO Elite 5' with flat bottom FPS and 22# spring
Considering how I have seen BE-86 toted as the powder for 180-200 cast bullets it is surprising to find only 1 thread mentioning BE-86
Morning Rick, there should be a bunch if I'm not mistaken
Ken
Kimber Target II LS
Hornady 200 XTP , AA9 , 12.6gr , 1202 fps , 2.06" 5 shot group at 50' shooting supported off a rest.
Berry's 180 rnfp , AA9, 13.3 gr , 1231 fps , 2.79" 5 shot group at 50' shooting supported off a rest.
Found this old thread very valuable so here's our contribution and attempt to revive it.
Montana Bullet Works 200gr. WFN GC, 12.5gr #AA9, Winchester brass, WLP, 1.250" OAL. 1262fps avg. from a Guncrafter 1911 (6" barrel) and a DW Bruin.
Natl. Bullet Co. 180gr. FMJ FP, 6gr. Win 231, asstd. cases, 1.250 OAL. 1092fps avg. from the GI 6" 1911 and the Bruin.
We found it interesting that there were so few loads here using W231 powder. Although not ideal for the 10mm, many Practical Shooters have a LOT of it around. Out of curiosity, we are trying it with Hornady 200gr. XTPs. If you've used W231 in the 10mm we'd like to see your results.
In some ways, I hate to necro a topic, but thought some of you may appreciate it nonetheless since there isn't a ton of carbine data.
I got my 16" AR finished and was able to put my first round of loads through it. I tested 4 different powders but only 2 bullet weights at this point but wanted to share what the chrono said.
The #9 powder with 155 gr xtp hornady was by far the most impressive speeds.
15.9 gr no. 9 powder
155 gr xtp
1.25" col
1748
1750
1780
*I had two chrono errors that I threw out
1769 fps ave
1077 ft lbs
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155 gr xtp
7.2 gr titegroup
1.260" col
1511
1507
1504
1499
1483
1500 fps ave
774 ft lbs
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155 gr xtp
9.4 gr Longshot
1.260" col
1609
1616
1555
1576
1554
1582 fps ave
861 ft lbs
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180 gr armscor flat tip
8.6 gr BE-86
1.255" col
1444
1448
error
1432
error
1441 fps ave
829 ft lbs
Nice, Thanks John!
Anybody have any 220gr cast data??
Closest I have is the pull down data from the that section/post.
https://www.10mm-firearms.com/factory-10mm-ammo-pull-downs/pull-down-master-list/
Click the link for the google doc, then filter by bullet weight.
Looks like Underwood is using Longshot and is well over the published data.
I'll note that I was beginning to see some flattening of the primers, but no swipes or bulges or anything of too much concern. Though, I suggest backing it off slightly more than where I left off and working your way up to it.
Hornadys manual 9 said you could go up to 14.9gr of powder, but as mentioned, I didn't get that high myself. Perhaps the longer barrel retained a little more pressure curve than what they were using with a 5" pistol dropping the pressures more ?. This is why you always start low and work your way up.
Anyway.
16 inch barrel
light crimp
Armscor 180 gr jacketed truncated nose
1.260" COL (probably closer to 1.258")
14.5 gr #9 powder
1560 fps average
972 ft lbs energy
Got it - Thanx