I started reloading recently for my Witness Hunter in 10mm. My brass was pretty beat up and I realized I needed a 22 lb recoil spring for my pistol. Got to the range yesterday and the good news was that the brass wasn't getting mangled. Bad news, even with a 22 lb recoil spring brass was everywhere! I was finding it in around corners and just bizarre places. My only theory left is that 10mm brass actually has legs that it uses to try and get away.
Some of my brass has been reported as lower earth orbiting space debris by the International Space Station!
Now before I go test ammo I have to get the OK from NASA... ::)
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Haha no joke!
I shoot out in a pasture. I mow a patch short to help catch it, otherwise I use a fiberglass leaf rake to comb the area. Sometime itll roll up on top. Othertimes I hear the rake click on the case. I can usually operate at about 90%. 40% without area prep.
I currently find all my brass 6 - 8 feet to my right, quite close together. This is with my Grand Power P40, heavy loads. What are you guys shooting?
Well before I went to the 22lbs spring in my S&W1006 (factory 18 lbs) brass on my heavy 10mm loads would fly 25' to the 4:30 5:00 o'clock, now same 10mm loads with the 22lbs rarely go over 8' sometime 10'.
The same S&W 1006 setup shooting the 9x25 Dillon drop near my feet maybe 3' as the recoil impulse is very different.
My Glock 20 with the 22lbs spring hotter 10mm loads stay around 4' to 8'...with the 9x25 Dillon dropping at my feet.
The Glock 29 with the Wollf 21lbs spring set hotter 10mm loads 6' to 10'...with the 9x25 Dillon 3' to 6'...357Sig drop at my feet...40S&W about 2'-5'
That isn't bad at all, obviously springing them correctly helps.
My Remington R1 Hunter is sending them about 30 feet away at a 2 o clock angle. I'm losing way too much brass though as our range is mostly coastal grass. You can't hardly find it even when you saw where it hit. The spring on it is already stiff enough you need a tire iron to depress it. It's supposed to be a 22 lbs or 24 lbs. Feels more like 50lb. It's a wrestling match to put it back together. My 45's, 40's, and 9mms are a piece of cake.
You may need to trim the ejector some
They're aren't legs on the cases. There are JATOs on some and wings on others. I'm fairly certain that some come with wheels and even some kidnapped by the fairy ****ing godmother(whom I let go with a stern warning), but have yet to see legs. I'd be tempted to shoot that piece of brass. Haha. :)) :P :))
I'm running a 28# recoil spring and 21# main spring on my DE. The ejector is flush with the magwell as stock from Colt.
I'm getting about 12 to 15 feet 4 o'clock ejection. I'm loading my loads full house so I get what I deserve I guess. There's no point in pulling the trigger if it's not reaching its potential. Otherwise I'll set it up like a .45 when I need to make more fire(match lit) formed brass from loaded commercial ammo.
Quote from: Forrest on November 06 2017 05:50:39 PM MST
They're aren't legs on the cases. There are JATOs on some and wings on others. I'm fairly certain that some come with wheels and even some kidnapped by the fairy ****ing godmother(whom I let go with a stern warning), but have yet to see legs. I'd be tempted to shoot that piece of brass. Haha. :)) :P :))
Haha the theories on 10mm are as good as good as big foot stories.
Heavy loads out of my G20/ 6" LW barrel leave the brass at about 12' with the stock, 17# spring and the 22 and 24# springs drop the brass in the same area. About 4 oclock. Light loads fall about 4-5 feet and half would land in a 5 gallon bucket. Except an ocasional one that goes strait back about 4'.
Huh........I thought the brass just vaporized upon ejection.
When my grandkids come to visit, one of their favorite past times is looking for brass. A properly motivated five year old can find anything.
I put a small radius main spring housing and a heavier spring on my Kimber and I got the brass to stay a fence post closer. I still lose a lot of brass. My Glocks are better behaved on the brass but the Kimber is much more accurate.
I have heard of a small radius firing pin stop, but not main spring housing. Did you mis-speak or do I not know?
A guy on another forum was complaining about how far his 10mm was throwing its brass, I informed him that was MY brass and I live in SE. Michigan. First post from SE. Michigan
I find it humorous when folk talk about how far 10mm brass fly's It doesn't seem to matter what brand of pistol it still fly's into the next county, state or country. :) Its got me wondering whats going to happen when I open the cylinder on the new Blackhawk kinda expecting to chase the little buggers around the range til the tire out :) Oh my witness tossed them a good 25-30 foot frist time I shoot it I was like what the heck ....................went out with 50 rounds I think I'm lucky if I came back with 40 cases
I've started using a brass catcher, the net type. I'm losing much less brass now, but its just one more thing I've got to lug to the pistol range, set up, take down, etc., etc. :))
Just shot my new RIA Ultra FS today.
225 rds of S&B 180. I came home with 215pcs of brass, I love the desert!
30' away at 4:00 was where it all was going, in about a 6' radius.
Stock G-20 gen4 next zip code but if you think 10mm is bad try 380acp out of a Walther PPK/S they fly straight for about 10 feet before hitting the deck and going into Neverland.
The Ruger LCP 380 when I was trying to develop a load threw a casing from the 5 yard line out to the 15 yard line. 125 grain cast HP doing 1037 fps. I wish I would have found it before I squeezed off the second on that suffered a casing blow out @ 1038 fps... :o
Now that the load is right these 125's are doing 815 fps. :D
125 grain cast HP doing 1037 fps in a 380acp :o HOLY Batcrap Batman! Hope you and the little Ruger are ok.
I hate losing good 10mm brass. I have a large golf course like mowed area where I shoot my 10mms as much as possible. My stock Kimber STII throws brass a good 25 feet in random directions. My Glock 20sf with a 22lb spring throws brass about 8-12 feet in a consistent area. I have a large mesh tarp I put down in taller grass to recover as much brass as possible.
I try to use my newer brass at the range and older brass for my hunting loads so I don't fret as much when I lose them.