I am going to get a 10mm pistol to hunt deer with in Indiana. I can not make up my mind on which one to get.
I am torn between the SR1911, G40 or G20. I already own two Glocks Andover 1911, so I am familiar with both platforms.
I read a lot about changing barrels on the Glocks, is this a necessity for hot hunting rounds? Would the Ruger need different parts?
I feel like I would be more accurate with the 1911, but at the short ranges I would limit myself to I do not think it is a huge issue.
What do you prefer? Thanks for any feedback!
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I preffer glock myself but you cant go wrong with a 1911 if you get a good one. Its all up to you and what your most comfortable with and what your willing to spend.
If its a hunting pistol... Get the G40, no question.
The combination of easy installation of a red dot, longer barrel options (mine has a 7" barrel), magazine capacity, and standing up to the hottest 10mm ammo make it a no brainier.
My G40 is 100 yard accurate... But only with the red dot.
I do not see how you can go wrong with any of your listed choices After all, we are only talking about whitetail deer. Standard factory ammo (like Hornady 180gr XTP) will easily harvest them if you do your part. IMO the difference in sights is greater than the difference in handguns. And different people do better with different sights. Depends on the person.
But.... if I had to fall to one side or the other, I am with Ridgerunner on this one. The G40 is a great hunting handgun. But then, I am a Glock guy and not a 1911 guy so clouds of Glock Kool-Aid cloud my vision. Still... all your listed choices are good ones.
I own both platforms you mentioned above.
The RMR on my 40 certainly have it as a longer range gun than my Remington R1 6" 1911.
Out to 50 yards off hand I shoot both very well and then the other conveniences or preferences come to light. I love the 1911 platform and actually off hand shoot it better than my Glock 20 SF or my Glock 40. But from steady rest the 40 wins the accuracy battle. The 1911 is easier to carry than the model 40 but in chest holster it's close enough neither wins over the other in that department. Red dots are great sights but they are battery operated and there is always that possibility of failure. Open sights rarely fail. I think either would be an excellent choice and like I said I have both platforms use them both as the mood dictates.
For me it would depend upon what sights you intend to use....open/iron sights then I would go with a 6" long slide optuon....if optics/red dot then the extra length is not needed for accuracy.
Weight can come into play, a heavier gun will help control the "hot" loads but you will have to carry it all day.
Capacity can also be a factor, some want more to make sure they have plenty of ammo--others say if you need a double stack for hunting then you need to practice more.
For some, cost comes into play--- for those guys, the glock's seem to be the best value for the money.
If you want the option of "customization" then the 1911's seem to have more options.
Which one is more accurate in your hands is really the question
I have both the Glock 20 and a Rock Island double stack in 10mm.
I'm also from Indiana and will be taking my rock to the woods.
I ended up getting the Ruger. Got it yesterday, haven't even had a chance to shoot it yet.
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Congrats I don't think you'll be disappointed.
Quote from: djulbert on October 06 2017 12:21:00 PM MDT
I ended up getting the Ruger. Got it yesterday, haven't even had a chance to shoot it yet.
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You'll love your new Ruger. Mine is very accurate. Get plenty of rounds through her before you go hunting.
Based on some reports here by Ridgerunner665 I ordered the 7" Barrel for my G40 I am really looking forward to wringing it out this weekend. It's not really a velocity thing but it cannot hurt as much as an accuracy thing.
Quote from: Dave84 on October 18 2017 10:23:43 AM MDT
Quote from: djulbert on October 06 2017 12:21:00 PM MDT
I ended up getting the Ruger. Got it yesterday, haven't even had a chance to shoot it yet.
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You'll love your new Ruger. Mine is very accurate. Get plenty of rounds through her before you go hunting.
A seven inch 10mm barrel shooting full power loads will be impressive.
I got it today and can only say WOW I had Lone Wolf on this model 40 and had some nic groups but threw that 7" on and shot some 200 grain cast off hand at 30 yards the groups are absolutely fantastic. Cut the group size in half. So I am impressed with the 7" from KKM. I will get some comparative velocity data this weekend.
Where I looking for a hunting 10MM it would be a Glock 40.
Quote from: Pumpkinheaver on November 09 2017 08:48:09 PM MST
Where I looking for a hunting 10MM it would be a Glock 40.
This makes a lot of sense. It's optics ready. It has a six inch barrel which is a minimum in some states. My personal favorite is that it is a polymer frame. I found out one very cold day that steel frames are best keep in the warmth of the body. Carrying the pistol at the ready after a long cold sit makes for one cold hand unless you have thick gloves on your shooting hand which I almost never do while handgun hunting.
There is a lot of personal preference here, but I would hate a Glock trigger for hunting. I'm also in Indiana and carry my Kimber Eclipse. Last year I actually took my buck with it, stillhunting a creek bank. He tried to get up and took two 200gr XTPs through the chest at 30 yards and that was it.
If I'm shooting a 10mm in a pistol, I don't need optics, the open sights work just fine. But again, personal opinion.
Now the IDEAL hunting 10mm for me would be a 1911 longslide. If I ever build a 1911 from scratch, that will be it.
Looks like you have already made your purchase but the dead critters are stacking up to this one.
G20LS with Trijicon dual source RMR, no batteries needed here.
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This is at 15 yards free hand 15 rounds using the Sig 180 FMJ.
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How about an EAA Hunter for hunting? You can also put the bracket on to optic it and Henning I think makes one to replace out the rear sight. The large squared trigger guard allows for gloves to boot.
Quote from: Mike D on November 25 2017 07:35:25 PM MST
Looks like you have already made your purchase but the dead critters are stacking up to this one.
G20LS with Trijicon dual source RMR, no batteries needed here.
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This is at 15 yards free hand 15 rounds using the Sig 180 FMJ.
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RMR are outstanding optics
Quote from: Ramjet on November 26 2017 08:55:18 PM MST
Quote from: Mike D on November 25 2017 07:35:25 PM MST
Looks like you have already made your purchase but the dead critters are stacking up to this one.
G20LS with Trijicon dual source RMR, no batteries needed here.
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171126/9ca9fd370b1977ad70d5f4fa976675de.jpg)
This is at 15 yards free hand 15 rounds using the Sig 180 FMJ.
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RMR are outstanding optics
I'm a fan! I really like the no batteries part. Although I picked up (2) original RMR LED models (on all the time, auto dimming) from Cabelas for $350 each and used a free shipping coupon and a 12% cash back from Active Junky. So just over $300 each shipped to my door.
I'm gonna try one of them on the G21 long slide 460 Rowland conversion. [emoji51]
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Well I will chime in and I live in Indiana southern part I hunt in Orange Co with thick woods. I have a Glock 20 with a LW 6" slide and barrel that was machined for my Burris red dot. I changed barrels to shoot lead gas check bullets from Bear Tooth.
I just got for Xmas a G40MOS and a Venom site. I ordered a KKM 7" barrel. My intention is to only hunt with this in 2018. This will be a first for me. I have a SuperRedhawk 44 to fall back on but am counting on doing it all with the 10MM. I have not hunted with a pistol before. Everything else but not a pistol.
Quote from: Ridgerunner665 on September 30 2017 12:59:59 AM MDT
If its a hunting pistol... Get the G40, no question.
The combination of easy installation of a red dot, longer barrel options (mine has a 7" barrel), magazine capacity, and standing up to the hottest 10mm ammo make it a no brainier.
My G40 is 100 yard accurate... But only with the red dot.
Plus plus 1 on this I did sme testing today witha load of 9.2 grains of Longshot Lrg pistol primer 180 grain HP from my model 40 7" KKM barrel
Something to consider n a hunting pistol. Temperature. If it's very cold where you are you might like the Glock over a 1911 due to the cold soaking into the steel frame. If you have to stalk with the gun in hand for a period of time after it has been holstered outside it sure is cold.
Been gone for a while (since I retired about 1 1/2 yrs. ago). Enjoying my EAA Hunter 10mm. Got 1 deer with it so far. Using my handloads. Just searched for a longer barrel (would like a 10"), but learned that no one makes handgun barrels longer than 7", and no one makes aftermarket barrels for my Hunter :(. Darn!
jimb.