I am looking for a 10mm sub compact that will shoot high power factory ammo and hard cast bullets without having to change the barrel,guide rod,recoil spring,sear spring and every other spring in the gun.Does such a gun exist ?
Don't think so...
Glock 29 is a close as you will come to that.
The glock 29 and EAA witness is the closest Ive seen
If carry, glock 29 is best choice.
EAA witness will shoot hot loads. Subcompact is not reliable enough. Other witness pistols are too big for most people to carry.
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I shoot & carry a G29 w/a Storm Lake barrel it's a grand combination. :D
I am new to alot of the replacement parts but if you change barrels in order shoot hotter loads wouldnt you have to change recoil springs as well ?
compact conversions,S&W 4013,4014,4053,4054 rechambered to 10mm.
subcompact conversion,S&W CS40 rechambered to 10mm.
Here's a thread from the S&W forum
http://smith-wessonforum.com/smith-wesson-semi-auto-pistols/449666-rebore-4053-10mm-help-needed.html
If this site had a gallery,I'd be able to post pics.
I shoot plenty of hard cast in my G29 with the factory barrel. Slug your bore, watch your bullet size and use a good lube.
And, for a reliable gun, it is really the only off the shelf option.
how much you looking to spend??? Fusion has some nice pistols from 3.5, 3.75, 4.25" barrels in 10mm-- element ncomm, pro series commander, & officers model --- prices range from $1800-2700 though
To pricey for me, I am just going to buy a glock 29 and become somewhat of a gunsmith to make it function the way I want it to............
The Glock 29 is too 'chunky' for my tastes. I prefer the Witness Compact polymer in 10MM. 1" across the slide, and 12 round capacity. Hard to beat those numbers. Need to be careful, though about what you're buying. Some compact slides are rounded and some are rectangular with forward serrations. The rectangular is what you want. Plus, it looks way better! GD Italians don't seem to have much of a clue. LOL It's best to buy off of Gunbroker, where you can see the actual gun you're getting. Aside from the Glock 29, it's the only other choice for a compact carry piece.
Quote from: StockIIBoss on August 09 2017 06:25:09 PM MDT
The Glock 29 is too 'chunky' for my tastes. I prefer the Witness Compact polymer in 10MM. 1" across the slide, and 12 round capacity.
EAA website says it's 1.4" wide. Is the slide only 1" across?
I'd like to get one someday.
I love my G29. :D
Quote from: Ridgerunner665 on July 23 2017 08:16:46 AM MDT
Don't think so...
Based on the how thoroughly you asked your question I have to agree with Ridgerunner. It is not that you can't get away with it but an OEM G29 (only small 10mm I have experience with) with full power Underwood ammo was more than I could fully control. A lot more.
But let's reverse engineer the question. What if you want to shoot a sub compact 10mm handgun that launches a 200gr WFN hard cast bullet at slightly over 1,200 fps with good control and accuracy? Easy peasy. There are a few ways to do it. I have a G29 with the aftermarket 21# Wolff spring set, 4.5" Storm Lake barrel and +0 Pearce grip extension. There are few critters that would not be slapped down hard with this setup.
Quote from: Blades on August 09 2017 07:25:52 PM MDT
Quote from: StockIIBoss on August 09 2017 06:25:09 PM MDT
The Glock 29 is too 'chunky' for my tastes. I prefer the Witness Compact polymer in 10MM. 1" across the slide, and 12 round capacity.
EAA website says it's 1.4" wide. Is the slide only 1" across?
I'd like to get one someday.
Yes, just 1"
BTW, my Witness polymer compact has been totally reliable since the mods, even with Underwood ammo. Not sure how long it will last with a steady load of that stuff, but it's good to know it'll handle it. There are other offerings out there not quite up to the Underwood level, but plenty potent and perhaps help extend the life of the gun.
Steel Witness Compact is another option. I don't know what changes they have made to it, but at least one ammo maker got his to run 100%.