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Title: Grand Power P40 10mm Magazine Drop Problem
Post by: dcale101 on June 20 2017 01:03:47 PM MDT
I have a Grand Power 10mm.  I love it except that it drops the magazine occasionally when shooting full power loads.  It doesn't do it when firing the tame PPU ammo. 

I know some of you have had the same problem.  Did you ever get it resolved?  Bersa/Eagle Imports said to send it in to one of their authorized repair facilities.  There are quite a few on the list.  Any recommendations which one to choose?

Thanks
Title: Re: Grand Power P40 10mm Magazine Drop Problem
Post by: Ten2six on June 20 2017 01:21:48 PM MDT
I sent mine to Ahlmans in Minnesota, quick turn around ...under two weeks. Mine still on rare occasions will drop a mag but only on the last round. I am pretty sure it is the mag follower bumping the release in the frame as it comes up in the mag. I am filing a notch in the follower a little bit at a time so it won't touch the mag catch as it passes by.

When I first got the pistol it would drop several times per mag.

Hope this helps and welcome to the forum. A lot helpful people here.
Title: Re: Grand Power P40 10mm Magazine Drop Problem
Post by: ottoman on June 20 2017 11:42:36 PM MDT
Mine also drops the mag on the last round!
Like you I slotted the follower... going to see if that helps this weekend. 
I also notice the spring may hit the mag lock on the last round but am going to see if the follower mod works before I mad the spring.
Title: Re: Grand Power P40 10mm Magazine Drop Problem
Post by: dcale101 on June 21 2017 04:23:13 AM MDT
Thanks for the information.  Do you have any photos of the modified follower?

Title: Re: Grand Power P40 10mm Magazine Drop Problem
Post by: dcale101 on August 09 2017 09:55:58 AM MDT
I received my Grand Power P40 10mm back from Colorado Gun Works yesterday.  They replaced the magazine catch assembly.  I haven't shot it yet however.  Before I sent it in, the magazine release button was very easy to depress.  Now it is noticeably stiffer to actuate.  I am hopeful that the problem is solved.  I will let you know once I actually get to put some rounds through it.
Title: Re: Grand Power P40 10mm Magazine Drop Problem
Post by: gcw16 on August 10 2017 08:08:36 AM MDT
I just got mine back From Colorado Gun Works too. They had mine since January 12th! The mag release is very stiff now. I just closed on a house on Monday so I am in the process of moving. It may be 3 or 4 weeks till I get a chance to go to the range.
Title: Re: Grand Power P40 10mm Magazine Drop Problem
Post by: PCFlorida on August 10 2017 02:50:55 PM MDT
I just got mine back as well on Tuesday. Very stiff mag release. I put a couple mags of nuclear ++ through it with no issue, though to be honest I haven't had the issue since it was new, once it was broken in it no longer dropped the mags. So I don't really know if it proved anything.
Title: Re: Grand Power P40 10mm Magazine Drop Problem
Post by: 10Tens on August 11 2017 01:29:39 AM MDT
Mine went back in for second time to fix mag drop.Been in the shop for 4 weeks now. Sucks.
Title: Re: Grand Power P40 10mm Magazine Drop Problem
Post by: PCFlorida on August 11 2017 04:07:25 PM MDT
Quote from: 10Tens on August 11 2017 01:29:39 AM MDT
Mine went back in for second time to fix mag drop.Been in the shop for 4 weeks now. Sucks.

Who did you send it to?
Title: Re: Grand Power P40 10mm Magazine Drop Problem
Post by: 10Tens on August 13 2017 12:08:37 AM MDT
The second time it went to CGW.  They still are in the process of fixing a bunch of them including mine.
Title: Re: Grand Power P40 10mm Magazine Drop Problem
Post by: PCFlorida on August 13 2017 05:25:12 AM MDT
Quote from: 10Tens on August 13 2017 12:08:37 AM MDT
The second time it went to CGW.  They still are in the process of fixing a bunch of them including mine.

Mine was there about 3 weeks.
Title: Re: Grand Power P40 10mm Magazine Drop Problem
Post by: dcale101 on August 20 2017 04:48:20 AM MDT
I was able to put 70 rounds through my GP P40 yesterday.  They consisted of 50 rounds of SIG 180gr FMJ and 20 rounds of Underwood 200gr XTP.  I am happy to report that all rounds were trouble free and the magazine drop issue seems to have been remedied.
Title: Re: Grand Power P40 10mm Magazine Drop Problem
Post by: PCFlorida on August 20 2017 08:34:36 AM MDT
Quote from: dcale101 on August 20 2017 04:48:20 AM MDT
I was able to put 70 rounds through my GP P40 yesterday.  They consisted of 50 rounds of SIG 180gr FMJ and 20 rounds of Underwood 200gr XTP.  I am happy to report that all rounds were trouble free and the magazine drop issue seems to have been remedied.
Good to hear!

Do anyone know how stiff the magazine catch is on the Witness series which I believe uses a similar magazine?
Title: Re: Grand Power P40 10mm Magazine Drop Problem
Post by: 10Tens on August 20 2017 08:59:29 AM MDT
Quote from: dcale101 on August 20 2017 04:48:20 AM MDT
I was able to put 70 rounds through my GP P40 yesterday.  They consisted of 50 rounds of SIG 180gr FMJ and 20 rounds of Underwood 200gr XTP.  I am happy to report that all rounds were trouble free and the magazine drop issue seems to have been remedied.

Great news . Glad you put some hot stuff through it with no issues.
Anxiously waiting to get mine back.
Title: Re: Grand Power P40 10mm Magazine Drop Problem
Post by: sqlbullet on August 20 2017 12:15:53 PM MDT
Magazine catch on Witness is about the same as all my other guns.
Title: Re: Grand Power P40 10mm Magazine Drop Problem
Post by: PCFlorida on August 20 2017 03:57:47 PM MDT
Quote from: sqlbullet on August 20 2017 12:15:53 PM MDT
Magazine catch on Witness is about the same as all my other guns.
So what is different between the Witness and the Grand Power, the physical location of the magazine catch? If the Grand Power puts it in the front of the magazine, where does the Witness put it, and what is different between the two?
Title: Re: Grand Power P40 10mm Magazine Drop Problem
Post by: sqlbullet on August 20 2017 07:35:21 PM MDT
Someone else will have to chime in on those answers.  I only know that the two witness guns I have are very much like the stiffness of all my other pistols.  Glock, Ruger 1911, Para 1911, Sig P229, High Power...They all feel about the same.
Title: Re: Grand Power P40 10mm Magazine Drop Problem
Post by: PCFlorida on August 21 2017 02:59:01 AM MDT
Quote from: sqlbullet on August 20 2017 07:35:21 PM MDT
Someone else will have to chime in on those answers.  I only know that the two witness guns I have are very much like the stiffness of all my other pistols.  Glock, Ruger 1911, Para 1911, Sig P229, High Power...They all feel about the same.
Just got me curious is all. Thank you for the reply.
Title: Re: Grand Power P40 10mm Magazine Drop Problem
Post by: gcw16 on September 13 2017 05:02:32 PM MDT
I finally got to the range with my p40 after getting it back from Colorado Gun Works about a month ago. After moving I was a bit lazy about getting the gun stuff unpacked. The mag release seemed a very stiff
at first but seemed to loosen up a bit with use. I put 6 mags through it (3 mags twice each). The mags did not drop out! However, when I sent it in, I told them that the gun would consistently misfeed the last
round in the mag. The said they "could not duplicate" the issue. On all 6 mags the last round failed to feed. Oh well.
Title: Re: Grand Power P40 10mm Magazine Drop Problem
Post by: PCFlorida on September 17 2017 07:24:42 PM MDT
Quote from: gcw16 on September 13 2017 05:02:32 PM MDT
I finally got to the range with my p40 after getting it back from Colorado Gun Works about a month ago. After moving I was a bit lazy about getting the gun stuff unpacked. The mag release seemed a very stiff
at first but seemed to loosen up a bit with use. I put 6 mags through it (3 mags twice each). The mags did not drop out! However, when I sent it in, I told them that the gun would consistently misfeed the last
round in the mag. The said they "could not duplicate" the issue. On all 6 mags the last round failed to feed. Oh well.

How many rounds are you loading? I have not had that problem. I typically load 13 however.
Title: Re: Grand Power P40 10mm Magazine Drop Problem
Post by: gcw16 on September 21 2017 08:40:02 AM MDT
It doesn't matter how many rounds. 4 or 14 it always misfeeds the last round.
Title: Re: Grand Power P40 10mm Magazine Drop Problem
Post by: TonyRumore on September 21 2017 09:30:31 AM MDT
Quote from: gcw16 on September 13 2017 05:02:32 PM MDT
I told them that the gun would consistently misfeed the last round in the mag. The said they "could not duplicate" the issue. On all 6 mags the last round failed to feed. Oh well.

Most likely attributable to a rough breach face.  The case head is having trouble sliding up the face as it feeds, without a round beneath it to help.

If you polish the breach face, the last round feeding problem should go away.

Tony Rumore
Tromix
Title: Re: Grand Power P40 10mm Magazine Drop Problem
Post by: 10Tens on September 22 2017 09:57:14 PM MDT
Got my P40 out to the range today. 200 rounds through it. 2 failure to feeds towards the end of the session. The gun was rather dirty , not sure if that was the reason or I limp wristed it. Other than that, it ran excellent. All the ammo I shot was 1200 + fps. 180 grainers.
Title: Re: Grand Power P40 10mm Magazine Drop Problem
Post by: dcale101 on September 23 2017 04:30:24 AM MDT
Great to hear 10Tens.  The Grand Power sure is a sweet shooter.
Title: Re: Grand Power P40 10mm Magazine Drop Problem
Post by: 10Tens on September 23 2017 09:10:43 AM MDT
Quote from: dcale101 on September 23 2017 04:30:24 AM MDT
Great to hear 10Tens.  The Grand Power sure is a sweet shooter.
I'm amazed at the accuracy of this pistol right out of the box. 2 inch groups all day off hand with no bench rest at 30 feet.
Title: Re: Grand Power P40 10mm Magazine Drop Problem
Post by: buck on November 16 2017 12:42:33 PM MST
Any more reports pro or con on the mag drop issue, and how it is being dealt with?
Title: Re: Grand Power P40 10mm Magazine Drop Problem
Post by: PCFlorida on November 16 2017 02:20:37 PM MST
I don't think I mentioned it above, but getting the service done and the turn around time was excellent. About 3 weeks door to door.
Title: Re: Grand Power P40 10mm Magazine Drop Problem
Post by: 10Tens on November 21 2017 10:28:00 AM MST
Only issue I have is with one of my 4 mags . It fails to lock the slide open on last round.
Title: Re: Grand Power P40 10mm Magazine Drop Problem
Post by: LuvMy10s on February 19 2018 12:28:26 PM MST
Hello All, I got a Grand Power P40 10mm a few months back and was having issues feeding the last round in the magazines. I believe I just figured out the problem and wanted to share for anyone else having the same issue.

Sorry but I forgot who suggested it but I polished the breech face and then the extractor which I believe was the real issue.  The exactor had some sharp edges that was digging into the brass as it was sliding up the breech. At home while cycling it I took a sharpie and marked the brass on a misfeed round then inspected it and found a big gouge on the neck of the brass where the extractor was making contact.

I did have to do a little filing to get the sharp edge off then polished it with a Dremel  with polishing compound. 

Before it seemed to misfeed every 3rd magazine or so, today I just ran 50 magazines through it with no issues whatsoever   ;D. Happy Camper!


Title: Re: Grand Power P40 10mm Magazine Drop Problem
Post by: Intercooler on February 19 2018 12:57:21 PM MST
Good news! Did you share with the people at Eagle Imports?
Title: Re: Grand Power P40 10mm Magazine Drop Problem
Post by: spencerhut on June 02 2018 09:50:05 AM MDT
Quote from: LuvMy10s on February 19 2018 12:28:26 PM MSTSorry but I forgot who suggested it but I polished the breech face and then the extractor which I believe was the real issue.  The exactor had some sharp edges that was digging into the brass as it was sliding up the breech. At home while cycling it I took a sharpie and marked the brass on a misfeed round then inspected it and found a big gouge on the neck of the brass where the extractor was making contact.

I think I'm having the same issue and was about to polish it out as well. Kind of a bummer since nearly every part of my gun is so well finished. Seems a shame they forgot to polish or just put a nice smooth radius on the extractor from the factory.