Distributor online catalog shows this:
Manufacturer Part Number 6739
Item Number G6739
AMBIDEXTROUS SAFETY N
BARREL LENGTH IN INCHES 5.0000
CALIBER 10MM AUTO
DRILLED AND TAPPED N
FINISH STAINLESS-MATTE
FRAME MATERIAL STAINLESS STEEL
GRIP MATERIAL RUBBER-BLACK
MAGAZINE CAPACITY 8.0000
NEWITEM YES
NUMBER OF MAGAZINES INCLUDED 2.0000
OTHER FEATURES: 1:16" RH TWIST CHECKERED BACKSTRAP SKELETONIZED HAMMER & TRIGGER 1-7RD & 1-8RD MAG,
TYPE ACTION FUNCTION SEMI-AUTO
TYPE OF SIGHTS ADJUSTABLE
WEIGHT IN OUNCES 40.2500
MSRP $1019
Here is hoping! 67XX seems to be the numbering sequence for SR1911 guns.
Well I went back to the distributor's listing for this and it's gone! Glad I copied it but it must have been an error for them to have put it up. Clearly not an imminent release, if ever. Odd though for there to be this much information for an instant.
I wonder what would happen if someone called them and inquired about that catalog number.
You know "I have a question about a product....Catalog number 6739. Who can answer it?"
Might be an interesting and enlightening conversation. Might also go nowhere.
I posted a detailed dealer inquiry to Ruger, including my copy of the distributor listing. I'll post any reply but I'm not holding my breath.
Something new:
http://www.ruger.com/products/sr1911/specSheets/6739.html
Whoa.
Yay!
Of course, I need another 10mm like a hole in the head. OTOH, this will be my first single stack 1911 since I sold my Delta Elite in 1993.
Just looking...
Ramped bull barrel w/nitride finish
Full length guide rod
Bo-mar style target sights.
All the typical "upgraded 1911" fixins
Only think I would add is a nitride finish all over. I like black guns.
But, I will suffer through. Can't wait to see one show up in person.
The first one is already up on GunBroker:
http://www.gunbroker.com/item/656866946 (http://www.gunbroker.com/item/656866946)
My hand keeps reaching for my wallet for some reason..... $799 buy it now.....
I'm thinking this FNG might grab the first one on GB.
Ramped barrel and 70 series= ;D
Missed it. Somebody snagged it before I could get back to it. :(
It wasn't me.
Cause I found this one that was $20 cheaper via Buy Now.
http://www.gunbroker.com/item/656887679
But, here is another one already:
http://www.gunbroker.com/item/656946687
The relists so fast by the same dealer make me wonder how long I might wait...I bet they don't actually have them in stock. But I could be wrong. (I hope).
Quote from: sqlbullet on June 14 2017 01:56:07 PM MDT
It wasn't me.
Cause I found this one that was $20 cheaper via Buy Now.
http://www.gunbroker.com/item/656887679
But, here is another one already:
http://www.gunbroker.com/item/656946687
The relists so fast by the same dealer make me wonder how long I might wait...I bet they don't actually have them in stock. But I could be wrong. (I hope).
You paid too much. The others have free shipping with buy now. :)
I didn't need one but got one anyway. I'm trying to figure out if
there is a difference between need and want. ;D
This one seems to be the current price leader:
http://www.gunbroker.com/item/656981582
Well, something else to want :)
Quote from: external power on June 14 2017 03:40:55 PM MDT
I didn't need one but got one anyway. I'm trying to figure out if
the is a difference between need and want. ;D
Spelling.
I must resist ....maybe
I'm going to buy one. I kind of appreciate a) how this snuck up on us 2) something new like this is available III) it's 10mm
I do notice it is missing one desirable detail, just like my Delta Elite. A flared ejection port. It is lowered but without the flare the rear port edge scores the crap out of my ejected brass when it slams against the casings. Some casings are iffy if I want to reload or not due to severe scoring. Not hard to flare it yourself or get it done, but my Colt definitely should have it considering what I paid, and Ruger should do the same to avoid complaints.
I know the sights look great compared to my Govt fixed, and like the ramped supported barrel.
http://www.ruger.com/products/sr1911/specSheets/6739.html
There goes my budget........
Nice thing about stainless...Easy to file compared to hardened carbon steel, and a bit of soda blasting with a cheap harbor freight blaster and you can restore the finish.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Um2SS13Ox3E
Looks like flaring it would be a pretty simple 30 minute job.
Dan,
I merged your thread with this one since we were already talking about this.
I was looking at their LW Commander. I guess I need something else.
Quote from: sqlbullet on June 15 2017 07:48:54 AM MDT
Nice thing about stainless...Easy to file compared to hardened carbon steel, and a bit of soda blasting with a cheap harbor freight blaster and you can restore the finish.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Um2SS13Ox3E
Looks like flaring it would be a pretty simple 30 minute job.
True, shouldn't be very difficult, just for the price of the pistol (Colt DE) it should already be done. Just my opinion.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PqiXg0xGvfs
Love Jeffs videos!
CW
i now know what my first ever 1911 will be.
What do you think the odd's are that they will start doing runs of 10mm in the revolver line now?
Boycott!
Every gun doesn't have to be a1911. Dime a dozen but they all want $1,000+.
Quote from: Patriot on June 17 2017 01:12:02 PM MDT
Boycott!
Every gun doesn't have to be a1911. Dime a dozen but they all want $1,000+.
Glad I'm not the only one...
Quote from: Patriot on June 17 2017 01:12:02 PM MDT
Boycott!
Every gun doesn't have to be a1911. Dime a dozen but they all want $1,000+.
And every gun doesn't have to be polymer! :)
I like seeing our 'niche' cartridge see more offerings :)
Not going to boycott myself as I love seeing Ruger at least producing something in 10mm. I would like to see Ruger, S&W, etc produce other models for us to enjoy! But that's not going to happen if they don't hear or see support from the shooting community.
Bud's Gun Shop $714 + free shipping. Not sure I want an 8-shot 40oz 1911 though... ::)
Quote from: StockIIBoss on June 17 2017 07:30:25 PM MDT
Bud's Gun Shop $714 + free shipping. Not sure I want an 8-shot 40oz 1911 though... ::)
I just checked. It is $744 now with the cash discount.
I wonder if companies today making 10mm's in the 1911 platform is just them being lazy?
Quote from: Intercooler on June 18 2017 05:23:09 AM MDT
I wonder if companies today making 10mm's in the 1911 platform is just them being lazy?
Let's face it, the 10mm market in my opinion is just not big enough to tool up for and go through the testing to bring a new design to market.
This is just a guess on my part, but only about 1 in 10 new gun designs are a financial success and last more than a year or two.
Lastly, gun makers produce what will sell and 1911's will always sell in the U.S.
Quote from: Patriot on June 17 2017 01:12:02 PM MDT
Boycott!
Every gun doesn't have to be a1911. Dime a dozen but they all want $1,000+.
This.
I have 2 10mm 1911's, a DE and a RIA. Meh, lets see a revolver or something different or innovative.
I wouldn't mind seeing Dan Wesson chamber a 10mm-version of their revolver. Same goes for the Ruger GP-100, or Redhawk. Especially, since Ruger made a .44 Special. A lot of the polymer-giants, also have as of yet, neglected the 10mm. Can you say: FN, CZ, H&K, Walther, Springfield Armory, and Beretta?
Innovative? Like the Stryk B platform?
Speaking as a Die hard 10mm fan, here is the problem I have with a boycott.
Ruger is a big dog in the market. They are watched by lots of others. The better their offering performs, the more likely others will follow.
I am a fan of the 1911. I do feel it is a over-pushed in this day and age. But it is a solid platform that does work. And, as mentioned above, it is comparitively easy to make one in an alternate caliber.
I don't think the SR1911 is for everyone. But I think it is a great option for a American made 1911 in my favorite caliber. Cheaper than a DE and a far better build.
Quote from: sqlbullet on June 19 2017 08:09:34 AM MDT
Speaking as a Die hard 10mm fan, here is the problem I have with a boycott.
Ruger is a big dog in the market. They are watched by lots of others. The better their offering performs, the more likely others will follow.
I am a fan of the 1911. I do feel it is a over-pushed in this day and age. But it is a solid platform that does work. And, as mentioned above, it is comparitively easy to make one in an alternate caliber.
I don't think the SR1911 is for everyone. But I think it is a great option for a American made 1911 in my favorite caliber. Cheaper than a DE and a far better build.
Good points and if they had been available when I bought my DE I would have purchased the Ruger instead. Not going to boycott, just not going to buy 'another' 1911 10mm. Now if they had a revolver, either SA or DA I'd be all over it.
Agreed...and I don't mean to suggest that everyone should buy one just cause.
But if you are in the market for a 10mm, and the Ruger meets your needs it is a solid gun. (I hope.)
I am a fan of the 10mm auto and a 10mm revolver just doesn't appeal to me because Of the .357, 41 and 44.
How does one know that the Ruger 10mm is better then the Colt Delta Elite?? Has there been any test shooting or range reports of the Ruger 10mm that I haven't seen yet?? Just asking.
I've already heard something like this a couple of times from people I know: "If I didn't already have a 1911 in 10mm, the Ruger is likely the one I'd be looking hardest at. "
That is their market. There are quite a few people who would like a 10mm 1911, but haven't seen one they've been willing to buy. Maybe they don't think a Delta is worth it, some have never seen certain brands in their favorite shop, maybe they are unaware of some guns that are being made, etc
And, whether right or wrong, they won't buy a handgun that isn't a S&W, Colt, Sig, Glock , or Ruger.
That's the big one. It's for all those guys who want a Delta Elite because it's a Colt, but think it costs too much, also because it's a Colt.
Maybe it's not entirely reasonable, but this puts a "legitimate" make of 10mm 1911 out there at a relatively good price.
Quote from: 14 GT-500 on June 20 2017 06:07:36 PM MDT
How does one know that the Ruger 10mm is better then the Colt Delta Elite?? Has there been any test shooting or range reports of the Ruger 10mm that I haven't seen yet?? Just asking.
We know the Ruger is spec'd with a fully supported chamber - that'll win it for the speed freaks.
Quote from: dred on June 20 2017 09:14:40 PM MDT
Quote from: 14 GT-500 on June 20 2017 06:07:36 PM MDT
How does one know that the Ruger 10mm is better then the Colt Delta Elite?? Has there been any test shooting or range reports of the Ruger 10mm that I haven't seen yet?? Just asking.
We know the Ruger is spec'd with a fully supported chamber - that'll win it for the speed freaks.
It could just be my old arthritic hands, but when you guys start swapping out the recoil springs to 22 #'ers you'll be cussing Ruger's bushingless design.
That is my only complaint about my 460 Rowland conversion. It is one reason I went with the Remington Hunter.
I am wrong on my statement above. Ruger has figured out a better system on the one piece guide rod.
I apologize.
http://www.realguns.com/articles/935.htm
Oh ok I see, were going based on the fact that the Ruger is a better gun then the a Colt just because it has a ramp barrel ??? nothing else matters.
Really guys !! how many more times do we have to go down this road?? ramp barrel vs non ramp barrel ::) You guy's can't even wait till there is at least a few range reports. Yet I haven't seen one bad write up on the Colt Delta, have any one of you have seen one? if so please share!!
So how fast do you want to drive a 180 gr ?? I drive some of mine @ a true 1350 fps, and the Gun handles it just fine, my brass is good to reload, I still have all my fingers and no frame cracks in the Gun.
But I sure will give that Ruger a look.
Quote from: 14 GT-500 on June 21 2017 10:05:14 AM MDT
Oh ok I see, were going based on the fact that the Ruger is a better gun then the a Colt just because it has a ramp barrel ??? nothing else matters.
Really guys !! how many more times do we have to go down this road?? ramp barrel vs non ramp barrel ::) You guy's can't even wait till there is at least a few range reports. Yet I haven't seen one bad write up on the Colt Delta, have any one of you have seen one? if so please share!!
So how fast do you want to drive a 180 gr ?? I drive some of mine @ a true 1350 fps, and the Gun handles it just fine, my brass is good to reload, I still have all my fingers and no frame cracks in the Gun.
But I sure will give that Ruger a look.
I couldn't agree more. I love my DE....I am anxious to hear a range report as well. That recoil system looks very interesting.
Thank you so much, glad to hear that I am not the lone solider here that thinks the Colt Delta is a mighty fine 10mm. I also have a Kimber that has a fully ramp barrel, and you know what , it's not the better of the 2 !! but it does have a fully ramp barrel so it has to be, right.
Delta Elite is a fine gun, and I have said many times here that I have no concerns shooting any published load data in the gun. Underwood has specifically warned that some of their ammo should not be used in a Delta Elite, and to me that says far more about how SAAMI spec Underwood is than how SAAMI spec the Delta Elite is.
That said, especially for a reloader, you will see the occasional bulged brass that has to go in the recycle bin with a Delta Elite barrel that you would not see on a fully supported ramped barrel. So, if you reload, the ramped barrel is superior, even if it is not required for safe shooting. Advantage Ruger (if you reload)
The Delta Elite has a forged frame, which is important to purists. But, the very best cast frames, such as those produced by Ruger subsidiaries, are only bettered by the highest quality forgings. I don't know of any destructive testing of the Colt vs the Ruger frames, but I would be a bit suprised is Ruger did not equal the Colt in such tests. And Ruger is well known to stand behind their products. Advantage Colt (but not really to me)
The Delta Elite has a flared ejection port. For reloaders especially this would be an important feature, again to preserve brass condition. But, in a stainless gun you can flare an ejection port in about an hour with a dremel tool, some basic files, and some sandpaper. Advantage Colt (again, slim)
Colt is a more desirable 1911 name than Ruger. Advantage Colt.
The Ruger has fully adjustable sights. Now, if you are looking for a carry gun, this may not mean much. In fact, large, sharp edged Bo-Mar style sights may be disadvantage. But they are considered an upgrade. Advantage Ruger.
The Ruger is a series 70 gun. The Delta Elite is a series 80. This is something that is hotly debated, but here are some simple physics: The Series 80 trigger has more parts to move against friction, and therefore in the absolute sense will always be inferior to the Series 70 trigger. Yes, there are great Series 80 triggers and there are bad series 70 triggers. Yes, most humans may be unable to tell the difference in the very best of the two. But the fact remains that there IS more friction in the Series 80 system. Advantage Ruger
The Ruger has a trigger with an overtravel stop. As best I can tell the new Delta Elite does not. Advantage Ruger
The Ruger barrel has a nitride finish for enhanced durability. Advantage Ruger
The Colt Delta Elite on gunbroker with filters Factory New and No Reserve, sort by price to the cheapest being 935, with a buy now of $949. The Ruger with same filters can be found biddable for $650, and buy now of $734.99, a savings of $210. (BIG) Advantage Ruger.
That is 3 for Colt, and 6 for Ruger. Or, stated differently, 3 for Colt and 5 for the $200 cheaper Ruger.
The reviews so far are positive, but I don't think any of us have shot one yet. I pick up mine from the FFL tomorrow at 5:30, but wont' get to shoot it for several weeks.
The Colt is a fine gun. I would love to add one back to the safe, as it is the gun I most regret selling. But I do think you are paying about $250 for the roll mark. And that is what is exciting about the Ruger to me.
Sqlbullet,
You broke Manrule 67: thou shall not buy a firearm without committing to shooting said firearm within 72 hrs after purchase.
Manrule 68: says you can redeem yourself by sending to TXCOONDOG for testing ;D
Ruger is basically the same design as rock island armory.
With only a $100 premium, ruger should sell well.
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sstewart you are right on the money.
I was thinking as I wrote the above that the best value in a 10mm 1911 right now is the Rock Island. I have one of the hi-cap versions, and excepting that I don't really like the magwell, and they chopped the frame to make the magwell fit, it is a solid gun. I am sure the standard capacity versions are equally impressive.
The RIA Tac II SC goes on gunbroker buy now for $560. Downgrades are carbon steel, not stainless, and not US made. For $175 more, buy now, you get those two upgraded features. And US made is important to lots of gun buyers.