Many of us have come to know and like Starline products!
Well Starline is gearing up with a new annealing process addition (15000 SqFt addition)and will be making Bottleneck Casings starting with 308 Winchester, with the .300 Blackout next and the .223 Rem. soon to follow.
For information on availability, contact Starline Brass, Dept. OT;
Tel.: (800) 280-6660;
Web: http://www.starlinebrass.com/ (http://www.starlinebrass.com/)
Very cool.
Here's hoping for some obscure calibers too, like 358 winchester.
Quote from: sqlbullet on November 28 2016 07:52:37 AM MST
Very cool.
Here's hoping for some obscure calibers too, like 358 winchester.
and 450 Marlin.
They already make 444 brass ;D ;D ;D 8) 8) 8)
300 blackout. Nice.
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Quote from: Mike D on December 26 2016 02:41:30 PM MST
300 blackout. Nice.
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Sorry to derail for a moment, but what is the attraction to the 300 Blackout? Just seems like an underpowered 7.62x39. I've seen a Blackout upper put on a real colt M16 lower (all legal, class III dealer). That made one of the strangest full auto sounds I've ever heard. Kind of like an AK with auto sped up 50% lol
I still liked the group buy I got into with Starline where a bunch of us went in on a drum of nickel plated 100 mm cases (8000 minimum).
I wouldn't mind doing that again, with either the brass or nickel plated.
Please, 6.5 Grendel... That stuff is killing me...
I love their 458 SOCOM brass... Which kills me, also... :))
Quote from: gandog56 on December 27 2016 03:26:12 PM MST
I still liked the group buy I got into with Starline where a bunch of us went in on a drum of nickel plated 100 mm cases (8000 minimum).
I wouldn't mind doing that again, with either the brass or nickel plated.
I might be interested if it was brass, not nickel.
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I would be also.
Quote from: Schrambo on December 27 2016 03:51:36 PM MST
Please, 6.5 Grendel... That stuff is killing me...
I asked them about a month ago to make that; we'll see.
Quote from: Overkill338 on December 27 2016 11:24:13 AM MST
Sorry to derail for a moment, but what is the attraction to the 300 Blackout? Just seems like an underpowered 7.62x39. I've seen a Blackout upper put on a real colt M16 lower (all legal, class III dealer). That made one of the strangest full auto sounds I've ever heard. Kind of like an AK with auto sped up 50% lol
300 blackout just works better in the AR platform,with about the same performance. I really like it.
Quote from: triggerman10 on January 10 2017 05:55:54 PM MST
Quote from: Overkill338 on December 27 2016 11:24:13 AM MST
Sorry to derail for a moment, but what is the attraction to the 300 Blackout? Just seems like an underpowered 7.62x39. I've seen a Blackout upper put on a real colt M16 lower (all legal, class III dealer). That made one of the strangest full auto sounds I've ever heard. Kind of like an AK with auto sped up 50% lol
300 blackout just works better in the AR platform,with about the same performance. I really like it.
This. And to elaborate.
The 300 Blackout feeds better and is an easier "swap" for an existing AR owner.
The 300 Blackout will handle bullet weights all the way up to 230 grain, where the 7.62X39 maxes out at about 150 grains.
The .308 caliber bullets available have better BC's than the .310 bullets used in the 7.62X39. By 250 yards any energy advantage is negated and beyond that the 300 blackout delivers more energy on target.
Correspondingly, external ballistics are very similar. The Blackout is only down .3" at 100 yards and .5" at 200 yards from the "faster" 7.62X39. Again, better BC plays a huge role in this.
Paper, game and predators are unlikely to laugh off a solid hit from a 300 blackout at close range because it was going 100-200 feet slower.
The Blackout was designed from day one to be used in suppressed SBR's. And it performs in that role in ways the 7.62X39 can't.
About the only downside to the 300 blackout is the lack of uber cheap surplus ammo. Some shooter find this to be a legitimate deal breaker. If you goal is a cheap to feed plinker, and you don't reload, or don't like reloading lots of ammo, the 7.62X39 is a great round.
If, on the other hand, you do reload, and you want to explore rounds that have lots of versatility, the Blackout is the way to go.
Quote from: sqlbullet on November 28 2016 07:52:37 AM MST
Very cool.
Here's hoping for some obscure calibers too, like 358 winchester.
Here's hoping for 348 Winchester
Quote from: sqlbullet on January 11 2017 08:16:10 AM MST
Quote from: triggerman10 on January 10 2017 05:55:54 PM MST
Quote from: Overkill338 on December 27 2016 11:24:13 AM MST
Sorry to derail for a moment, but what is the attraction to the 300 Blackout? Just seems like an underpowered 7.62x39. I've seen a Blackout upper put on a real colt M16 lower (all legal, class III dealer). That made one of the strangest full auto sounds I've ever heard. Kind of like an AK with auto sped up 50% lol
300 blackout just works better in the AR platform,with about the same performance. I really like it.
This. And to elaborate.
The 300 Blackout feeds better and is an easier "swap" for an existing AR owner.
The 300 Blackout will handle bullet weights all the way up to 230 grain, where the 7.62X39 maxes out at about 150 grains.
The .308 caliber bullets available have better BC's than the .310 bullets used in the 7.62X39. By 250 yards any energy advantage is negated and beyond that the 300 blackout delivers more energy on target.
Correspondingly, external ballistics are very similar. The Blackout is only down .3" at 100 yards and .5" at 200 yards from the "faster" 7.62X39. Again, better BC plays a huge role in this.
Paper, game and predators are unlikely to laugh off a solid hit from a 300 blackout at close range because it was going 100-200 feet slower.
The Blackout was designed from day one to be used in suppressed SBR's. And it performs in that role in ways the 7.62X39 can't.
About the only downside to the 300 blackout is the lack of uber cheap surplus ammo. Some shooter find this to be a legitimate deal breaker. If you goal is a cheap to feed plinker, and you don't reload, or don't like reloading lots of ammo, the 7.62X39 is a great round.
If, on the other hand, you do reload, and you want to explore rounds that have lots of versatility, the Blackout is the way to go.
Yep, everything he said. I love mine. I've nearly lost count of All the animals I've killed with it.
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Just to add into 300 BLK love.... The group I hunt with in TX has 3, 300 BLK. One with a 16" BBL and 2 AR pistols with 10.3" barrels. 2 hogs have been taken with a 125gr SST reload and 8 with the Hornady 135gr FTX factory load. None lost either. No long range shots though. :D ;D
This year the main plan was to pop a hog with the G20... but I missed. Still got one with the 300 BLK.
Another feather in the cap of the 300BLK is casting your own bullets. I have a suppressed 10.5" 300 and cast my own 240 gr bullets from tire weights and then powder coat. I form cases from once fired LC 5.56 brass. (You would be surprised how many people leave that laying). Comes to about .08 per round. Much more fun than spending that same amount on a 22LR round. Sorry about straying off topic.
Quote from: asilcot10 on October 10 2017 10:49:15 PM MDT
I form cases from once fired LC 5.56 brass. (You would be surprised how many people leave that laying).
No, I wouldn't. Since 5.56 brass rarely has a caliber stamped on them that is what I use. I have a Harbor Freight cutter and cut the brass a bit long, size it, then trim any excess brass of it. Seems to work great. Now I like Starline brass, but when it is a little effort and I can make free brass, free wins.
I am still running on that group buy we had here for the 10mm Starline nickel plated brass. Best group buy EVER!
Is the 300 blackout a highly developed expensive 30 M1 carbine round.? Or the 2000s 32-20?
Neither. It's designed to put a useful .30 heavy bullet subsonic cartridge in an AR15 format rifle. As a secondary consideration it will work as a super sonic cartridge without changing anything on the rifle.
As a factory specialty cartridge .300blk isn't that expensive. It is not mil surp 7.62x39 or Russian 5.56mm steel case so factory ammo isn't "cheap". But compared to other normal production factory cartridges the price isn't bad.
For the handloader it's a great cartridge. Free brass! Use any .308 bullet you have laying around over a small dose of powder and surprising accuracy results. ;D
Quote from: rognp on October 12 2017 04:27:05 AM MDT
Is the 300 blackout a highly developed expensive 30 M1 carbine round.? Or the 2000s 32-20?
The Blackout has 300-400 fps on the Carbine with 110 grain bullets.
And, while a 110 is a "heavy" bullet in the 30 carbine, it is a very light bullet in the blackout which can be loaded with bullets up to 240 grains.
Quote from: sqlbullet on November 28 2016 07:52:37 AM MST
Very cool.
Here's hoping for some obscure calibers too, like 358 winchester.
It says available on their website.
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Yeah...They added it either right before or right after I posted that. So they are either clairvoyant or are stalking me ;D