I don't see many of these out there.
Are they a good idea?
Do they run?
Opinions?
I think I want one.
I really like commander barrel length. It is what the whole world has really gone to for "full-size". Almost every service auto out there has a 4.25-4.5" barrel.
Personally, in a 1911, I like the CCO concept. the 4.25" barrel with the officers frame. Makes a nice tidy package, but with the benefit of the longer, more reliable 4.25" barrel. I especially like this in a double stack:
(http://fellingfamily.net/images/theP_Pair.jpg)
That gun in the front is my still not completed P12/10mm CCO project gun.
I've never had or shot a CCO, but I love a bobbed tail. It gives my pinkie something to hang on to and still hides well.
QuoteI think I want one.
:) I can understand that.
I have one, it runs. Had mine custom made. It's been my EDC for several years now.
(http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d199/harrygunner/10mm/10mm_commander_back.jpg)
(http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d199/harrygunner/10mm/10mm_commander_bottom.jpg)
If you can't find one, here's what is on my gun:
- Springfield 1911 frame, impact area and dust cover cut for "Commander" length
- STI .400 Commander length slide
- Bar-Sto ramped barrel. Frame milled with Clark/Para cut
- Barrel bushing custom fit by Bar-Sto
- Ed Brown bobtail mainspring housing
- STI grip safety
- Cylinder & Slide Tactical Match 4.5 lb disconnector, sear and hammer
- Cylinder & Slide firing pin for 9mm, .40S&W
- Wilson Combat extractor
- STI trigger
- 10-8 Slide stop for 9mm
- EGW flat firing pin stop
- 22# recoil spring
- Dawson Precision full length guide rod and bushing. One piece stainless steel.
- Novak bar/dot night sights
- Ambi slide safety
- Larry Davidson Gyro-Spiral grip panels (minus the 'Spiral')
I was in California at the time, that's why the frame conversion was needed. Now, I live in a state where I could have bought a Commander style bare frame to build on.
It shoots full power ammo. I went with the STI slide because of how they're made. Figured they would better withstand 10mm pressures on the breech face. The Bar-Sto barrel doesn't have conventional barrel lugs. Instead it has a broad base of metal that impinges the frame. The flat bottom firing pin stop helps slow the slide.
(http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d199/harrygunner/10mm/barsto_barrel1.jpg)
Here is my rendition. RIA TAC with complete makeover. It was problematic at first. But after sticking with it and sending it in to RIA, it is now running perfectly. I use it as my sidearm when bowhunting.
(http://i298.photobucket.com/albums/mm241/ReverendPDP/IMG_0789_zpsswnxq7ss.jpg) (http://s298.photobucket.com/user/ReverendPDP/media/IMG_0789_zpsswnxq7ss.jpg.html)
I am all about the "Semi Compact" set-up (full sized Frame with a compact length Upper)
My DTD Carry is an all steel, Witness Semi Compact (DuoTone) in 10mm
I also have a 10mm LongSlide and the .22lr Upper that is also in their (Tanfoglio's) LongSlide length for it:
(https://i.imgur.com/ztTBzxR.jpg)
I have a RIA MS (commander length) in 10mm and so far I like it. When researching, I guess, at least from what I've read, is that there isn't much difference in accuracy from gov't to commander, except for the extra difference in sight acquisition being a bit more refined, due to the length. But as for the accuracy of the barrel, from say a rest, they function the same. And of course you will lose some velocity, but here's where the 10mm shines in my perspective. Lost velocity in the 45acp would suck, at least for range, accuracy and hunting, just because of the already slower speeds.... but the flat shooting .40 bullet (I think because of ballistic coefficient and speed) in a 10mm.... well, 180 grns at 1150 fps (while maybe would be 1200 fps out of a 5" barrel) still rocks any game out there, and is accurate with less drop is still awesome, so i didn't worry about the extra .75", plus, walking in the woods with it.... I don't miss the extra weight I'm sure... and if you get a threaded barrel, like me, you may want to stick to the shorter length, to then have overall an almost 5" barrel, instead of a 5.5" barrel on a full slide.
I also wanted a commander size 10mm 1911 pistol and was having trouble finding one with a light rail. I contacted DW and they made me a special order stainless Specialist 10mm commander. The commander size 1911 just fits my hand better than a government size. This one is replacing my DW Silverback 10mm as my EDC gun.
inv136, may I ask what they charged?
My DW was $2,100. That was for everything, including shipping to my FFL dealer. The pistol is all stainless steel, night sights, magwell, match barrel, match trigger, and light rail.
Quote from: inv136 on November 21 2016 09:22:53 PM MST
My DW was $2,100. That was for everything, including shipping to my FFL dealer. The pistol is all stainless steel, night sights, magwell, match barrel, match trigger, and light rail.
How bout some pictures of that BadBoy!!! 8)
Quote from: inv136 on November 21 2016 09:22:53 PM MST
My DW was $2,100. That was for everything, including shipping to my FFL dealer. The pistol is all stainless steel, night sights, magwell, match barrel, match trigger, and light rail.
Hmmmm, my custom made Fusion Firearms was cheaper than that. But I went the opposite direction and got me a long slide.
I'm not 100% with posting pictures, but, here goes. DW 10mm Specialist Commander stainless. I am slowly working on polishing the stainless by hand. So, the finish might look a little off right now. I switched out the VZ grips with RAASCO maroon micarta grips. I haven't shot it yet. I 'll probably get to the range in another week or so.
(https://s6.postimg.org/r28blw6y9/DW_10mm.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/pzy53co4t/)upload photos (https://postimage.org/)