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10mm Ammuntion => Factory 10mm ammo => Topic started by: Intercooler on November 14 2012 03:52:59 PM MST

Title: Serious new player for ammo! PBR Ammo Chronograph results!
Post by: Intercooler on November 14 2012 03:52:59 PM MST
    I'm glad I prodded Anthony enough to step up his 10mm line and he did in a big way. I busted my Match on the second box of testing (another post on here) but did get some data with it. Glad I decided to also take the 1006 as well so I could get the lineup done.

(Match 4.75" Barrel)
PBR Ammo Premium Line 200gr JHP 1235, 1277, 1278, 1290, 1291. Average = 1274.2 FPS/ 720.87 LBS. Snappy stuff here!
PBR Ammo Premium Line 180gr FMJ V-Supreme 1344, 1334, 1344, 1306, 1351. Average = 1335.8 FPS/ 713.03 LBS. Another strong one. Also the end of Match testing because it appears the rear sight saved me from the last piece of brass by taking a direct hit. It's a two-piece now!

(S&W 1006 5" Barrel)
PBR Ammo 180gr FMJ V-Supreme 1399, 1385, 1308, 1360, 1376. Average = 1365.6 FPS/ 745.20 LBS
PBR Ammo 165gr FMJ V-Supreme 1386, 1385, 1393, 1395, 1386. Average = 1389 FPS/ 706.71 LBS
PBR Ammo 200gr FMJ V-Supreme 1266, 1262, 1293, 1303, 1302. Average = 1285.2 FPS/ 733.37 LBS
PBR Ammo 180gr Premium Line JHP 1326, 1341, 1318, 1332, 1332. Average = 1329.8 FPS/706.64 LBS
PBR Ammo 200gr Premium Line JHP 1260, 1274, 1235, 1291, 1253. Average =  1262.6 FPS/ 707.80 LBS

I'm going to add these to the list and put a different color for the 1006 results until I can Match test them. They look close enough for Government work anyway. I will post the .357 and .44 Magnum results in the General section I started yesterday. The PBR 44's were hands down the strongest I have shot so far so can't wait to see the numbers!

It's nice to see more players in 10mm and this is going to be a good one for us!

Title: Re: Serious new player for ammo! PBR Ammo Chronograph results!
Post by: REDLINE on November 14 2012 03:56:56 PM MST
I'm very impressed!  Any chance you would take a pliers and pull a bullet or two between a couple of the different loads to see if it appears he's using IMR 800-X powder like Underwood?

Truly unexpected!  Glad to see. 8)
Title: Re: Serious new player for ammo! PBR Ammo Chronograph results!
Post by: Intercooler on November 14 2012 04:27:36 PM MST
I'm sending a bunch to Shadow (I think) because I want to know. I know it's not 800-X as Anthony publicly stated and his sales pitch  ;D

My guess is it's Long Shot and it's clean with little smoke (nothing I could see).
Title: Re: Serious new player for ammo! PBR Ammo Chronograph results!
Post by: REDLINE on November 14 2012 04:40:14 PM MST
Are those velocities possible with Accurate No. 9?  That might be a possibility.
Title: Re: Serious new player for ammo! PBR Ammo Chronograph results!
Post by: Intercooler on November 14 2012 05:43:38 PM MST
10mm sheet updated:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Ak5OC6bPsjO8dEh6eGZ3N3hpUU13SXM5cm9pZy16T0E#gid=0
Title: Re: Serious new player for ammo! PBR Ammo Chronograph results!
Post by: Intercooler on November 14 2012 09:27:00 PM MST
New Starline brass and the ammo is high quality

(http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc6/259814_462721190432585_1223988179_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Serious new player for ammo! PBR Ammo Chronograph results!
Post by: sqlbullet on November 15 2012 07:26:24 AM MST
Quote from: REDLINE on November 14 2012 04:40:14 PM MST
Are those velocities possible with Accurate No. 9?  That might be a possibility.

I would think they are.

A #9 load I have in my log book is for a 175 grain lead SWC over 14.7 grains of #9.  It delivered 1331 fps for a 10 shot average.  No signs of pressure and case head measured .429".  Best of all the extreme spread for those 10 shots was only 22 fps.  VERY consistent.

The bad news for someone trying to make money in the ammo business is it took 14.7 grains to do that.  You could probably get there with Longshot or 800-X with 9 grains of powder.  Increasing your powder costs by 50% really hurts the bottom line.  By my math it would costs $32.03/1000 in #9 and $21.88/1000 for Longshot.  Ten dollars per thousand adds up.

Now if one could get their hands on some pull down WC820 (not the new mfg....different burn rate) it might be different.  For a while you could find WC820 pull down for $80/8lb can.  At that price you are on par per 1000 rounds in cost.
Title: Re: Serious new player for ammo! PBR Ammo Chronograph results!
Post by: Intercooler on November 15 2012 08:36:15 AM MST
We shall see!

If anyone is a member on GlockTalk or other forum can you repost the information here? I'm sure they would probably like to know.
Title: Re: Serious new player for ammo! PBR Ammo Chronograph results!
Post by: Intercooler on November 15 2012 11:56:23 AM MST
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