Hello guys,
I was surfing the web and discovered this forum so, being the 10 mm fan I am, I created my account.
I thought you guys might like to see one of the jewels of my collection, my mint condition Bren Ten Special Forces:
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It came with a few boxes of this awesome Norma ammo, hollow point 170 gr. that according to the factory box, it should fly at 1300 fps, I haven't
timed them yet. It also included some 200 rounds of FMJ PMC Korean ammo, which of course I shot them all already.
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I paid some $3,000 for it, besides the ammo, it came with 3 original mags, which is pretty cool because I understand that mags where a huge pain in the butt for the good old Dornaus & Dixon guys, so bad they went broke because of a bad supply of these mags.
Here it is, with its 10 mm sibling, the nice Glock 20, 4th gen.
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I understand that this one should be a museum piece or something, but I can't resist shooting a few rounds with it, from time to time...
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Hope you like the pics, I'm so proud of my BT, I thought I should share this, not that I want to bragg about it... (well, maybe a little!)
Regards,
Rod
Nice share. Extremely glad that you respect it enough to take it out and let it shake off cobwebs.
But, I gotta ask: Are you shooting in the desert? And, is that a boat over your right shoulder?
Well Dred, yes. Here the coast is desertic, so it is a desert with the ocean next to it. The boat belongs to the owner of the range, in the winter he parks the boat here.
Regards,
Rod
Very nice! Has anyone ever added the Bren Ten pistols to the list of 10's here? Slide weight, barrel, etc....? It would be neat to document this piece and a Bren Ten.
cool! how does it shoot?
Hello Rod and welcome to the forum! Very nice Bren Ten Special Forces Dark, I have collected several picture files of the Bren Tens and I just added yours. I too own a Bren mine is the Standard Model which I received on Don Johnson's 63rd Birthday so that was cool in and of itself. On this date 63 years ago Donnie Wayne "Don" Johnson (born December 15, 1949)
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Be sure to look at the Norma Ammo documentations
http://10mm-firearms.com/factory-10mm-ammo-pull-downs/norma-200-grain-fmj-truncated-cone-(original)-pull-down/ (http://10mm-firearms.com/factory-10mm-ammo-pull-downs/norma-200-grain-fmj-truncated-cone-(original)-pull-down/)
http://10mm-firearms.com/factory-10mm-ammo-pull-downs/norma-165-grain-jhp-(bullet-170gr)-pull-down/ (http://10mm-firearms.com/factory-10mm-ammo-pull-downs/norma-165-grain-jhp-(bullet-170gr)-pull-down/)
Does the spec list for 10mm pistols still exist? I thought it was a sticky somewhere?
Blaster, it shoots like the fine pistol it is, well balanced, flawless and it doesn't kick as the old FBI legend used to say, I can't understand why it was replaced by the 40 S&W. Actually the BT was my first 10 mm (I got the Glock 20 a few years later), so the first time I took it to the range, I was expecting a big recoil, but none of that... 357 Magnums and above, are way more agressive to shoot that the 10 mm.
Hey Shadow, NICE..... love the duo-tone, is it factory original? Do you shoot it?
Don't know that spec list, but if I can help in anyway, let me know.
Bye guys!
Rod
Yes Rod, mine is Factory original...I also have a set of wood grips for it as well. It is a shooter and was said to be magnafluxed before I got it!
About the specs...
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I about lost it on the pocket model. I need one., Thats got pretty attractive specs even by todays standards
Quote from: 48conkli on October 21 2016 11:43:48 AM MDT
I about lost it on the pocket model. I need one., Thats got pretty attractive specs even by todays standards
To my knowledge, none were ever made.
Quote from: BEEMER! on October 21 2016 12:09:06 PM MDT
Quote from: 48conkli on October 21 2016 11:43:48 AM MDT
I about lost it on the pocket model. I need one., Thats got pretty attractive specs even by todays standards
To my knowledge, none were ever made.
Still doesnt mean I dont need one lol. If that got brought back, id buy two. Its sad the D&D went out so quick, I wonder what they could have came out with if given another 30 years of business. I would bet a poly framed bren ten wouldnt have been to far on the horizon given the market trends from the late 90s onward.
Nice Bren Tens guys! You make some of us jealous. :P
That pocket model would have been a handful shooting Underwood, or even the old Norma load.
Very Nice Special Forces you have there and welcome to the forum too Rod. I love mine. I haven't shot the regular two tone in years and never the Police Model. They are special. Every time I get the itch to shoot one of my Bren Tens I just get out my Witness Stock and shoot it some.
I concur, the Special Forces is a beautiful!
so why was the Bren Ten discontinued? it looks like a stout pistol. bad marketing or business practice?
Didn't sqlbullet have a document with barrel, frame and slide weights? I can't find it!
Quote from: blaster on October 21 2016 05:58:32 PM MDT
so why was the Bren Ten discontinued? it looks like a stout pistol. bad marketing or business practice?
Dornaus And Dixon had some issues early on as they were working on milling machines that were not CNC. Some of the slides had small imperfection anomalies such as voids. But the major down fall was the magazines, some batches were not up to spec, as many guns shipped without them. Returned guns were not being repaired in a timely manner and that also led to the down turn...
Thomas Dornaus was very much the perfectionist and things didn't sit well with him...
Quote from: Intercooler on October 21 2016 06:11:56 PM MDT
Didn't sqlbullet have a document with barrel, frame and slide weights? I can't find it!
http://10mm-firearms.com/10mm-semi-auto-handguns/10mm-handgun-spec-sheet/
Outstanding addition to any collection. Great looking Bren 10 you got there!
Congrats and thanks for for sharing pics.
That Special Forces model is a beautiful 10mm. I wanted to order one of these and the standard one when I first saw the ads for them from Dornaus & Dixon. After I read the problems with customers only receiving one and maybe no magazines with the gun I decided to wait to place an order until after they ironed out the problems. I wish I hadn't waited. My last hope was for the VLTOR Bren Ten project that tanked without warning. Congratulations on your Special Forces model. You might try and contact VLTOR and ask if they have any Bren Ten magazines they made and see if they would sell some of them. Probably not, but, you never know.
Almost 40 years later and I don't think they make a 10mm as good looking as the Bren Ten.
Quote from: blaster on October 21 2016 05:58:32 PM MDT
so why was the Bren Ten discontinued? it looks like a stout pistol. bad marketing or business practice?
In addition to what has been said a good portion of their financial plan was to presell pistols promising delivery when the design was ready to go. I remember this as I pre-bought two and am still awaiting delivery. So when they were finally almost ready, "almost" as the magazine problem was never fully resolved, they were taking in no additional income from deliveries and eventually had no financial resources left to continue. As I recall they did try to continue by selling a portion of the guns that were complete rather than deliver them to those who had paid but their inability to deliver good guns with functioning magazines killed this effort as well. Potentially a great pistol ruined by an inferior business plan. They also made things worse by continually changing the specs so they were always catching up rather than moving forward.
Hello again!
I always like to see internals of pistols. Would it be possible to get a picture of the barrel with a round slid in place for chamber support? Possibly the frame rails and slide with guide rod/spring? sqbullet has a list somewhere with weights ???
This is not a Special Forces, but it is about as nice of a Standard Model that I have seen.
It is an early model when they were taking special care with the bluing and finish. Things go pretty sloppy at the end.
Notice the engraved serial number which they were doing at first, the nicer finish and bluing, and the early ones had blued barrels like this also. This one appears unfired.
I also have a couple of shooters, I know this is a shooting board and not one for collectors. ;)
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Thanks Beemer...adds more credibility on the files. 8)
Very nice Pistols Gentlemen, I to was able to acquire a standard model with one mag. My pride and joy! A delta Elite or two and a G20. Yes a 10mm love affair! Was on a list for the Falcon ten, after they bought the rights, but alas, that never came to be. The Armalite 24 is a close rendition in 9 mike mike.
Ampb5rider, Welcome to the forum glad to hear of another Bren owner. You should post some pictures.
The Peregrine Falcon was set into motion March of 1991, for the 10mm Phoenix. By April 15 1991, they expressed changes to internals were to be done before the pistols shipped late fourth quarter. That set the brakes on its forward momentum.
Very nice Bren. And welcome to the forum.
Very nice Special Forces Dark you have there Rod!
And Besser, that low serial number Standard Model is pretty awesome.
Thanks to you Shadow on the great information on failed resurrections of the Bren.
Quote from: Vice on November 21 2016 12:52:08 PM MST
Very nice Special Forces Dark you have there Rod!
And Besser, that low serial number Standard Model is pretty awesome.
Thanks to you Shadow on the great information on failed resurrections of the Bren.
Thanks Vice, check out the Dual Master's on this thread. Not many around.
http://10mm-firearms.com/10mm-semi-auto-handguns/bren-ten-dual-masters/
Very special indeed!