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Title: Guess i will be attempting to amke a 10mm H&K in near future
Post by: jasonheimerm on February 23 2016 05:26:01 PM MST
Just  worked out a trade deal to trade my usp 9  for a 40. I can't help myself, need a 10mm H&K
Hopefully  by my birthday i will be shooting  some  underwood  10mm  out of my H&K(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160224/1830fa07d872ca2c2b8e349bf868ca53.jpg)
Title: Re: Guess i will be attempting to amke a 10mm H&K in near future
Post by: Intercooler on February 23 2016 05:31:02 PM MST
Is the grip area/magwell big enough for 10mm?
Title: Re: Guess i will be attempting to amke a 10mm H&K in near future
Post by: jasonheimerm on February 23 2016 05:32:24 PM MST
Quote from: Intercooler on February 23 2016 05:31:02 PM MST
Is the grip area/magwell big enough for 10mm?
Yes,with different mags
Title: Re: Guess i will be attempting to amke a 10mm H&K in near future
Post by: Dave84 on February 23 2016 05:55:30 PM MST
These are really great guns. I wish they made them in 10mm. Have the usp tactical .45 and will never part ways with it.
Title: Re: Guess i will be attempting to amke a 10mm H&K in near future
Post by: sqlbullet on February 23 2016 08:21:56 PM MST
If they fit in the magwell and action then it should be a simple ream job.
Title: Re: Guess i will be attempting to amke a 10mm H&K in near future
Post by: gcw16 on February 24 2016 11:14:47 AM MST
Here is a link to a thread on the HKPro forum. It seems the HK barrel is too hard to ream so you will need a EFK or other aftermarket barrel. I am also considering doing this also.

http://www.hkpro.com/forum/hk-handgun-talk/232914-two-great-tastes-taste-great-together-usp-10mm.html (http://www.hkpro.com/forum/hk-handgun-talk/232914-two-great-tastes-taste-great-together-usp-10mm.html)

Title: Re: Guess i will be attempting to amke a 10mm H&K in near future
Post by: Pablo on February 24 2016 11:28:33 AM MST
It's an excellent day on 10mm today!  8) ;D :D
Title: Re: Guess i will be attempting to amke a 10mm H&K in near future
Post by: drnls on February 26 2016 10:10:39 AM MST
So what will you do for the barrel? EFK shows none in stock currently.  Hard to believe the barrel is too hard to ream. 
Title: Re: Guess i will be attempting to amke a 10mm H&K in near future
Post by: jasonheimerm on February 26 2016 10:12:01 AM MST
Quote from: drnls on February 26 2016 10:10:39 AM MST
So what will you do for the barrel? EFK shows none in stock currently.  Hard to believe the barrel is too hard to ream.
My  gunsmith says  he can handle the hk barrel,  tho im prob not going to use thr stock serialed barrel,  but rather a  hk  6" extended
Title: Re: Guess i will be attempting to amke a 10mm H&K in near future
Post by: jasonheimerm on February 26 2016 04:36:57 PM MST
Getting there on my  10mm USP build.
Tomorrow I should be picking up my USP 40, my 20 Lb recoil spring  is ordered and i think  i have decided on an HK made 6" barrel to make the most of the 10mm round. Only  thing left is figuring out how i want to go about mags
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Title: Re: Guess i will be attempting to amke a 10mm H&K in near future
Post by: sqlbullet on February 26 2016 07:55:40 PM MST
Dangit, now you have me perusing USP 40's on Gunbroker.
Title: Re: Guess i will be attempting to amke a 10mm H&K in near future
Post by: jasonheimerm on February 26 2016 07:56:32 PM MST
Quote from: sqlbullet on February 26 2016 07:55:40 PM MST
Dangit, now you have me perusing USP 40's on Gunbroker.
That's the spirit!
Title: Re: Guess i will be attempting to amke a 10mm H&K in near future
Post by: drnls on February 27 2016 08:10:55 PM MST
So your smith can ream out the stock barrel?  If so will you provide his contact info?  Seriously considering this project if you get it running.  Thanks, Nelson
Title: Re: Guess i will be attempting to amke a 10mm H&K in near future
Post by: sqlbullet on February 28 2016 08:58:59 PM MST
Me too.  Please either post up the info or PM us.  And we want lots of brutally honest range reports.  I have been devouring USP info, and have always loved the gun.  The idea of having one in the one true caliber exhilarates me.
Title: Re: Guess i will be attempting to amke a 10mm H&K in near future
Post by: Pablo on February 28 2016 09:08:08 PM MST
Riveted.
Title: Re: Guess i will be attempting to amke a 10mm H&K in near future
Post by: jasonheimerm on February 28 2016 09:13:32 PM MST
Quote from: drnls on February 27 2016 08:10:55 PM MST
So your smith can ream out the stock barrel?  If so will you provide his contact info?  Seriously considering this project if you get it running.  Thanks, Nelson
He says he shouldn't  have a problem, though others say they are to hard to work on, once  the barrel is  done and seen thst it isb in working status  im sure he will be  happy to take on others
Title: Re: Guess i will be attempting to amke a 10mm H&K in near future
Post by: jasonheimerm on February 28 2016 09:15:07 PM MST
Quote from: sqlbullet on February 28 2016 08:58:59 PM MST
Me too.  Please either post up the info or PM us.  And we want lots of brutally honest range reports.  I have been devouring USP info, and have always loved the gun.  The idea of having one in the one true caliber exhilarates me.
Trust me i will keep yous  up to date step by step... im hoping  if a decent  number of us do this with the usp,  maybe  some company will hav thr balls to make a drop in 10mm barrel for   usp 45, hk45, and hk45c  once they see  they would make the money.
Title: Re: Guess i will be attempting to amke a 10mm H&K in near future
Post by: jasonheimerm on March 01 2016 10:20:05 AM MST
Just got back from my gun shop with my H&K USP 40. Thankfully it won't be a 40SW long haha. Beautifully worn, but very clean. One step closer to the finished  product and a true 10mm USP(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160301/c28d766922be0d60c68d0a4c9c474eb8.jpg)(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160301/786d0e68339b3a015138c1ada7dca1b3.jpg)(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160301/df391b8877979f2e3e533bd0b1f4c93b.jpg)
Title: Re: Guess i will be attempting to amke a 10mm H&K in near future
Post by: Pablo on March 01 2016 10:25:59 AM MST
Do you have a picture of the mag with a 10mm round or 5 inside?
Title: Re: Guess i will be attempting to amke a 10mm H&K in near future
Post by: jasonheimerm on March 01 2016 10:28:48 AM MST
Quote from: Pablo on March 01 2016 10:25:59 AM MST
Do you have a picture of the mag with a 10mm round or 5 inside?
No, because they will not  fit in the 40 mag, however  the  hk45/c  mag holds them and fits magwell tight.  My hk45c  mags are just a tad short.  Need to get hk45 mag  to try and mod to fit nicely in frame
Title: Re: Guess i will be attempting to amke a 10mm H&K in near future
Post by: jasonheimerm on March 01 2016 10:37:41 AM MST
Quote from: jasonheimerm on March 01 2016 10:28:48 AM MST
Quote from: Pablo on March 01 2016 10:25:59 AM MST
Do you have a picture of the mag with a 10mm round or 5 inside?
No, because they will not  fit in the 40 mag, however  the  hk45/c  mag holds them and fits magwell tight.  My hk45c  mags are just a tad short.  Need to get hk45 mag  to try and mod to fit nicely in frame
Here  i have  12 rounds  of  10mm underwood  in a hk45c mag. The prob is the hk45c  mags is  just a tad to short to lock and load, the hk45 mag is longer and  should lock in, maybe even able with a jetfunnel.  Thinkin the  hk45  mags hould hold 15 or 16 rounds of 10mm. And  is i get the +3 mase pads  can have 20 rounders  if  i want most likely  time will tell

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Title: Re: Guess i will be attempting to amke a 10mm H&K in near future
Post by: will965 on March 01 2016 05:35:43 PM MST
Great....thanks a lot! I was saving for a sharps.....now I gotta follow this ??? Oh baby, this sounds good! Keep us posted
Title: Re: Guess i will be attempting to amke a 10mm H&K in near future
Post by: Pumpkinheaver on March 03 2016 07:35:19 PM MST
I hope this project works out. Keep us updated.
Title: Re: Guess i will be attempting to amke a 10mm H&K in near future
Post by: jasonheimerm on March 07 2016 08:54:49 AM MST
Have  some exciting  news i will be sharing  with yous by the end of the day
Title: Re: Guess i will be attempting to amke a 10mm H&K in near future
Post by: jasonheimerm on March 07 2016 12:05:37 PM MST
Ok so update on the HK USP.
Still yas a 40sw barrel. But i was able to borrow an HK45 mag from a friend.
It holds 16 rounds of 10mm!

That also means it hold 16 rounds of  40sw. And yes i tested it today. 2 mags  with three malfunction 2 malfunctions  were the last round open failed (an easy fix with a dremmer to make the slide catch not rub the mag) and the last round in the first mag flipped up and  not into barrel. I think this is due to how short the 40 was compared to the mag and also limp wristing with one hand as i tried to video record myself while  doing  so. I think with proper length 10mm and  stance will have no issues.


Now the hk45 mag does fit, but so snug it isnt drop free. (Not sure how drop free STI mags are) For me that is not an issue but other it might be. I also found  eaa witness 10mm mags with the magwell so could easily be modifiedand cheaper than sti mags. Ive also found out that usp full size base plates fit the hk45 mags. This means  jetfunnel base plates fit them as welll. This is good news  as the hk45  mags stick out just a tad bit more than jet funnel mags. Meaning a jetfunnel kit is more than likely to work. The only  thing im not sure of if i will be able to pull the mags out with the jetfunnel magwell.
But i think Taylor freelance +3 baseplate will allow me to pull them out and  prob give me +4 or 5 in 10mm  making it a  20 or 21+1 pistol with a slightly  extended  magwell. I will also be purchasing an elephant foot and trimming to fit without use of a jetfunnel kit for those who choose to go semi flush over a slightly extended option.

So far i think things are going smooth.
Hope my update was as exciting  for yous as it was for myself.

Will post again soon. Feel  free to ask any questions (http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160307/0d91346d5b52ddc22baeae31b5039620.jpg)(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160307/dc6172261496598aa74c8b2c9ade8662.jpg)(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160307/df781b5773855cd0b01ed1c39bc8dd14.jpg)(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160307/eddec5250771a3763915e68a351a62a4.jpg)
Title: Re: Guess i will be attempting to amke a 10mm H&K in near future
Post by: jasonheimerm on April 01 2016 04:53:43 PM MDT
Couldn't  find a  40sw "sport" barrel.  But ordererd a  a  threaded  barrel and it has  shipped and on its way to my gunsmiths..

Now  i  need to find who has thr best priced  HK45  mags or  10round  elephant foot  HK45c mags and order a few
Title: Re: Guess i will be attempting to amke a 10mm H&K in near future
Post by: Pumpkinheaver on April 01 2016 08:44:30 PM MDT
Thanks for the update. I have been wondering how it was going.
Title: Re: Guess i will be attempting to amke a 10mm H&K in near future
Post by: jasonheimerm on April 08 2016 03:55:48 PM MDT
So my barrel is at my gun smiths, will be done the day the chamber reamer arrives (he ordered it, but the barrel shipped faster). I also  got  my 10 round  HK45c elephant foot mags in..i modified one so far to work with the USP.  Yes foot is a little sloppy. I did mean to make  it a slight V shape to allow me to pull  it out( the mags wont  drop  free  but with the elephant foot pull out simular toa glock gen 1)(side note I think it has something  to do with the USP mag release, and may try a hk45c  mag release to see if makes any difference)
Yes  i cut  to  far so it looks a little  sloppy, but doesn't effect how it  works.  I also took a dremmel to where the mag rubbed the slide catch and took off just enough for it to move freely.  Will post more soon!
Title: Re: Guess i will be attempting to amke a 10mm H&K in near future
Post by: jasonheimerm on April 08 2016 04:35:29 PM MDT
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Title: Re: Guess i will be attempting to amke a 10mm H&K in near future
Post by: jasonheimerm on April 11 2016 03:22:15 PM MDT
Just got word that my gunsmith received the reamer today. He is working on thr barrel now and i will be picking it up in the morning!
Title: Re: Guess i will be attempting to amke a 10mm H&K in near future
Post by: sqlbullet on April 11 2016 04:51:41 PM MDT
Sweet!
Title: Re: Guess i will be attempting to amke a 10mm H&K in near future
Post by: will965 on April 11 2016 08:43:04 PM MDT
This is getting exciting  :o
Title: Re: Guess i will be attempting to amke a 10mm H&K in near future
Post by: jasonheimerm on April 11 2016 08:47:12 PM MDT
Yes.... yes it is!
Title: Re: Guess i will be attempting to amke a 10mm H&K in near future
Post by: jasonheimerm on April 12 2016 11:29:55 AM MDT
Well here it is guys (and gals)

My first 10mm Heckler and Koch

Just got done shooting it.

Put around 100 rounds of miscellaneous  ammo through it

Rounds tried included
Remington umc 180gr fmj
Underwood 180gr fmj and HP
Sig 180 gr fmj & hp
Armscor USA fmj
Hornady 180gr XTP
PMC 170gr hp

The gun shot where i aimed it. Shot  rather soft imo. I did  have a few failures to feed but was only with the lower  power ammo and i know its magazine  related and need a little tweeking of feed lips.  Im goin to  try and post a  short  video  shooting 3 rounds of the 180gr  underwood gold dots

Next  step  is  deciding what red dot  i want to have it cut for when  i have the ejection port opened up. My smith and  i  are  going to attempt to finish the slide  in a flecktarn pattern  once  the slide  is  cut and egravings are done..

But glad  to say i now have a working HK USP 10mm.
Title: Re: Guess i will be attempting to amke a 10mm H&K in near future
Post by: jasonheimerm on April 12 2016 11:30:19 AM MDT
(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160412/8d74865b5215bb6a1a5b388966c2b301.jpg)(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160412/00738057cbef9437954e0d967772599e.jpg)
Title: Re: Guess i will be attempting to amke a 10mm H&K in near future
Post by: Pablo on April 12 2016 11:41:18 AM MDT
Absolutely awesome. I have added this to the project list! Great work! !
Title: Re: Guess i will be attempting to amke a 10mm H&K in near future
Post by: jasonheimerm on April 12 2016 11:44:56 AM MDT
Quote from: Pablo on April 12 2016 11:41:18 AM MDT
Absolutely awesome. I have added this to the project list! Great work! !
Not sure if you have a local Smith already that you deal with but my gun smith and I were thinking about buying a few barrels and putting together a few hits once we perfect it.He's lookin into a few diff places to get the barrels and maybe get em cheaper in bulk.  I can tell you I'm already planning on having another haha
Title: Re: Guess i will be attempting to amke a 10mm H&K in near future
Post by: jasonheimerm on April 12 2016 11:57:21 AM MDT
https://vimeo.com/162571127 (https://vimeo.com/162571127)
Title: Re: Guess i will be attempting to amke a 10mm H&K in near future
Post by: Pablo on April 12 2016 12:05:13 PM MDT
Quote from: jasonheimerm on April 12 2016 11:44:56 AM MDT
Quote from: Pablo on April 12 2016 11:41:18 AM MDT
Absolutely awesome. I have added this to the project list! Great work! !


Not sure if you have a local Smith already that you deal with but my gun smith and I were thinking about buying a few barrels and putting together a few hits once we perfect it.He's lookin into a few diff places to get the barrels and maybe get em cheaper in bulk.  I can tell you I'm already planning on having another haha

How much?
Title: Re: Guess i will be attempting to amke a 10mm H&K in near future
Post by: jasonheimerm on April 12 2016 12:11:56 PM MDT
Quote from: Pablo on April 12 2016 12:05:13 PM MDT
Quote from: jasonheimerm on April 12 2016 11:44:56 AM MDT
Quote from: Pablo on April 12 2016 11:41:18 AM MDT
Absolutely awesome. I have added this to the project list! Great work! !


Not sure if you have a local Smith already that you deal with but my gun smith and I were thinking about buying a few barrels and putting together a few hits once we perfect it.He's lookin into a few diff places to get the barrels and maybe get em cheaper in bulk.  I can tell you I'm already planning on having another haha

How much?
As soon as i find out  will  let  you know
Title: Re: Guess i will be attempting to amke a 10mm H&K in near future
Post by: The_Shadow on April 12 2016 01:57:38 PM MDT
jasonheimerm, thanks for the peak into your project and the video!  Awesome!  8)   
Title: Re: Guess i will be attempting to amke a 10mm H&K in near future
Post by: sqlbullet on April 12 2016 03:48:07 PM MDT
Yeah...I would probably go for one then wait to find the right deal on a USP.
Title: Re: Guess i will be attempting to amke a 10mm H&K in near future
Post by: Schrambo on April 13 2016 11:39:35 AM MDT
Tagged, and in for a threaded barrel kit...
Title: Re: Guess i will be attempting to amke a 10mm H&K in near future
Post by: Pumpkinheaver on April 15 2016 08:53:00 PM MDT
Well done sir. I'm glad it seems to be working out for you.
Title: Re: Guess i will be attempting to amke a 10mm H&K in near future
Post by: will965 on April 19 2016 04:47:20 PM MDT
Hell, im in too
Title: Re: Guess i will be attempting to amke a 10mm H&K in near future
Post by: jasonheimerm on April 19 2016 04:52:48 PM MDT
Small update. Messing around  with a p16 mag  i got. Will  update  more  soon
Title: Re: Guess i will be attempting to amke a 10mm H&K in near future
Post by: sgmtino on April 20 2016 06:23:35 AM MDT
I would also be interested in a barrel and then later pick up a USP
Title: Re: Guess i will be attempting to amke a 10mm H&K in near future
Post by: jasonheimerm on May 05 2016 10:38:22 AM MDT
Made a few orders last night for the USP.
Will be doing the LEM/Match hybrid trigger. Ordered a jet funnel kit,  LEM kit, match TRB spring, match sear, HK45c mag catch, a few different p16 mags, and a dawson mag extension. While the  HK45  mag works(but is tight) the p16 mags  seem to work nice other than the fact  they stick out and look odd. So i figured id try an extension with the jet funnel kit .
Title: Re: Guess i will be attempting to amke a 10mm H&K in near future
Post by: drnls on May 05 2016 01:15:07 PM MDT
If you would quit going to work and skip the family stuff this project could probably be completed  :)   :)
Keep up the good work, patiently waiting...
Title: Re: Guess i will be attempting to amke a 10mm H&K in near future
Post by: jasonheimerm on May 09 2016 09:38:33 AM MDT
Have the LEM kit, match parts, jetfunnel and some mags coming today. Got to go to work  but figured I'd strip the USP  now  and clean it and the parts up to save some time later. Pretty excited.(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160509/7b48b769ff56ee7ff815000f4fe9efb9.jpg)
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Post by: jasonheimerm on November 16 2016 11:59:15 AM MST
Update. Place i ordered the new style hammer strut from sent wrong months  ago. Finally got a new one and got around to installing it last  night.  Will have to take to range to fully test it. Should have an update much  faster than this onehttp://cloud.tapatalk.com/s/582cac69a81af/20161116_124118.jpg? (http://cloud.tapatalk.com/s/582cac69a81af/20161116_124118.jpg?)
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Title: Re: Guess i will be attempting to amke a 10mm H&K in near future
Post by: scubadds on November 16 2016 01:47:08 PM MST
So I am midstream on my conversion (I posted under gunsmithing)

I bought a .40 EFK threaded barrel, bought a Manson reamer, and no-go gauge.
18# spring, jet funnel kit, and 2 STI mags...
I can't stand the thought of not having slide stay open after the last round....

So, I put the the .40 slide on my .45 frame; fits nicely except frame is 3 mm longer on the muzzle end...fired fine,except some rounds went over the chamber and locked the slide...
Now I just need to ream the barrel tonight or tomorrow

Then bend the .45 feed lips to fit 10mm;

Title: Re: Guess i will be attempting to amke a 10mm H&K in near future
Post by: drnls on March 12 2017 08:47:54 AM MDT
Any updates lately?
Title: Re: Guess i will be attempting to amke a 10mm H&K in near future
Post by: rapidray10mm on March 12 2017 04:18:44 PM MDT
Yes, any more updates? H&K is one of my favorites and your "adventure" into making a 10mm has been very interesting. Keep up the great work.
Title: Re: Guess i will be attempting to amke a 10mm H&K in near future
Post by: ron556 on March 19 2017 11:34:27 AM MDT
This thread makes my wallet hurt... ;D