Stopped by my LGS today and he told me my GP P40 10mm had arrived. It was pretty coated in shipping grease, but I had to fondle it a bit. It feels really good in the hand and the trigger seems really good. I won't be able to get it out of detention for a week or two, but then I plan to get some shooting done. On a side note I emailed the factory in Slovakia and they said the 10mm is running the same 14# recoil spring as the .40 S&W. I'll wait and see how it shoots before I worry about changing anything.
No pictures?
You touched a unicorn and didn't treat us to pictures? :o :P
My bad. Honestly I didn't even think of it. I was so pumped to have gotten one I may not have been thinking clearly. When I get it home and cleaned up I'll get some photos posted.
I have to say I was very impressed with how well it felt in my hand. The grip did not feel like a double stack. I am really looking forward to getting some rounds through it. Let's just hope the weather cooperates after I get it home.
Really?
I heard after Shot Show... how did you score one already? Have you been following my 9mm trial?
The first release is the 4.25"? They feel like a Witness in many ways really.
Oh man. Did you check it before you left? You could have just a .40 and not the 10mm. I can't find any word about any of them being out yet and from what I read you would need to specify caliber when ordering.
Yeah, it's the 10mm. I heard a that an order had come in, of 15, and had my LGS contact Eagle. Eagle said they had sent out 8 to the distributors(Acusport) and still had 4 at their warehouse. I had my LGS to order one and it took a little over a week to get to him. It does feel a lot like the Witness. No idea when the L's will make it through the BATFE runaround.
So who would we contact to order one and how much are they?
Do you have a selection of 10mm ammos to run through it? It would be good to see if it runs Underwood okay. If it has the Red spring like my 9mm version, that should suffice pretty good I think.
I don't have any Underwood and my selection of factory is pretty poor, true load wise. I'll just have to find what I can and try it. The price was comparable to the .40,
$700ish. I have to give it up for the staff at Eagle Imports. They were very helpful with my LGS letting him know which distributors had them. I believe my LGS used Acusport. To the best of my knowledge I got the first one from Acusport and they still had 7 left last week.
As to the spring. I didn't get to tear it down to check, but as I stated according to the guys in Slovakia it is using the same 6.5kg spring as the .40cal, so that's a 14# spring.
They show the red one:
https://grandpower.eagleimportsinc.com/grandpower/shop/parts/p40-parts/recoil-spring
I think it's more than 14lb and should work well for most rounds.
I am just going from converting 6.5kg to pounds, that's 14.33#. But, as always, I will bow to your more extensive knowledge and familiarity with 10's.
I will say the only thing I didn't like was the paddle of the thumb safety. It's almost no existent. I am hoping I can swap it out with one like the one on they Xcaliber. It seems to be more robust. Still, I need to shoot the gun, before I start deciding what is wrong with it and what I want to change.
For sure shoot it some first. I initially thought the same about the safety and now I kind of like it. It's cheap enough to get the extended safety to have just in case.
You know what they say about threads without pics... lol
Subscribed...
Congarats!:o :o well SHOOT THE DAMN THING>>>> we are eagerly awaiting a range report...good luck and keep us in the loop please- oh and pictures pretty please
Quote from: Intercooler on January 13 2016 04:14:07 PM MST
Really?
I heard after Shot Show... how did you score one already? Have you been following my 9mm trial?
The first release is the 4.25"? They feel like a Witness in many ways really.
Keep in mind canuk claimed for over year that the 4.25 was finished approved, and ready for import. Just eagle imports kept disputing him. The p40l, aka the 5" is supposedly going to be shown at shot show and was just recently submitted for atf approval.
Glad to see one of these things have appeared in the US. Enjoy it for me, grand power put me off buying one so I'll have to see it through you.
The Witness Elite also comes with a 14 lb spring, which in my opinion is way too light for full house 10MM. Went with a 22 lb Wolff and it works flawlessly
Acusport got all 10 and I'm trying to get KY Gun Co to buy any that are left.
Please not KY Gun Co! I live in KY so I would have to pay sales tax if I buy from them!
Runzos can get one for $679, but won't ship the mags seperate for me. KY wants $730 and will ship the mags... too high though. My local wants $750.
I guess I will have to wait until they show up on GunBroker.
For another 8 (what's left) contact Runzos in Ohio to get one @ $679
Part #GP4010M
Henning had access to 3... got one 8) His price was shipped though and I could send the magazine seperate. This is the best place currently to go.
Why are we sending magazines separate?
Stupid Maryland! If they ship with the pistol the FFL has to dimple them to only hold 10 rounds. It's perfectly legal to purchase high capacity magazines in other States though and use them in Maryland. My buddy in Delaware can get them and... Now I have full capacity.
It will be a long while before I can ever shoot it anyway. It's not currently on the approved roster for MD and I will probably have to submit mine to get it on. That ties it up for however long for the State Police to do their thing. Hopefully I get it in my hands by May.
Oh wow that stinks..
Quote from: Intercooler on January 14 2016 03:08:53 PM MST
Stupid Maryland! If they ship with the pistol the FFL has to dimple them to only hold 10 rounds. It's perfectly legal to purchase high capacity magazines in other States though and use them in Maryland. My buddy in Delaware can get them and... Now I have full capacity.
It will be a long while before I can ever shoot it anyway. It's not currently on the approved roster for MD and I will probably have to submit mine to get it on. That ties it up for however long for the State Police to do their thing. Hopefully I get it in my hands by May.
A right delayed is a right denied
Do doubt on that one!
I talked to Henning and now have one on order. He said it would not ship until after he returns from the SHOT show. I also ordered a Cone Fit guide rod for my Witness Elite Match. By the way, he told me that the Grand Power mags will work in the Witness pistols but the Witness mags will not work in the GP unless they are modified.
Quote from: Intercooler on January 14 2016 03:08:53 PM MST
Stupid Maryland! If they ship with the pistol the FFL has to dimple them to only hold 10 rounds.
There
are times I enjoy living in the PNW.
It will be cool to see some of these out there running. My journey will be a long one!
Ok, here's some quick pics.
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Cool! Black or red follower? Looks similar to the 9mm version, except the grip is a little different.
Black, I think
That's interesting!
Interesting to see how it runs...be sure to ring that thing through the ammo rankings! 8)
When you get a chance, please post weights:
Whole gun with factory mag unloaded.
the slide/barrel/RSA
just the slide
just the barrel
I would love to update the specs with this.
The slides are pretty heavy I think. Do you want my 9mm weight? :P
Is that sucker comfy in the hand?
Can I just go to my local FFL and have him order one up?
Quote from: sqlbullet on January 15 2016 05:47:23 PM MST
When you get a chance, please post weights:
Whole gun with factory mag unloaded.
the slide/barrel/RSA
just the slide
just the barrel
I would love to update the specs with this.
For the 9mm so we can compare:
- Whole pistol 28.7 oz
- Slide assembled 15.3 oz
- Slide 11.4 oz
- Barrel 3.7 oz
- Frame 10 oz
Looks good I didn't realize it was going to be polymer.
Quote from: Pablo on January 15 2016 06:15:05 PM MST
Is that sucker comfy in the hand?
Can I just go to my local FFL and have him order one up?
Seems very comfortable in my hand. Very similar to my EAA Witness Polymer Compact, except a larger grip of course. Your local gun seller can get in touch with Eagle Imports and they can let them know which distributors have them. It was also pointed out the KY Guns have them.
The gun will take some getting used to for disassembly. Don't let the take down tabs fool you, it does not takedown like a Glock. It was very awkward for my smaller hands. The re-assembly was the hardest part for me, I managed to put a nice scratch in the slide as I tried. It will take a little to get used to. It also showed me that the finish is not that durable. It may have a date with Mr. Cerakote.
It's funny you mention that! I have one slight scratch in my slide as well from trying to put it back on early on. I'm pretty good at it now! I cut down a CZ-75 10lb spring for mine this morning and it's so much easier to wrack the slide + put it on.
How I do it now is put the barrel all the way out the end of the slide with the channel facing up. Put the frame down into it making sure to keep the barrel all the way forward. Pull down on the take downs, pull the slide back and over the slide rails and drop it into place. After doing it about a dozen times now I'm good! Doesn't cure that one scratch though :o I will probably do a coating on the slide down the road... maybe Hard Chrome ;)
Recoil Calibration Paks
CZ75 Standard Models, including Full Size Baby Eagle with 4.4" barrel:
Reduced Power - Pak contains 1 each reduced power recoil springs in 9, 10, 11 and 12 pounds. Three extra power firing pin springs are also included for both EAA and other models. (Stock No. 13120)
Extra Power - Pak contains 1 each extra power recoil springs in 16, 18, 20 and 22 pounds. Three extra power firing pin springs are also included for both EAA and other models. (Stock No 13121)
Performance Pak 9mm - Pak contains 1 each 12 Lb. reduced power recoil spring, 16 Lb. extra power recoil spring, extra power firing pin spring and 17 Lb. reduced power hammer spring. (Stock No. 14100)
I purchased the reduced power pack for my 9mm and the competition guys are running an 11lb spring. I went with a 10lb and think it will do just fine for me. If you plan on running some Underwood, Buffalo Bore or even Sig Sauer in it, I would get that extra power pack and start with the 20lb.
When do you take delivery? Do you plan on running any Underwood through it?
There is a P40 10mm listed on Gun Broker now. 662 + 35ship + 3%cc.
Enabler. ;D
Sportsmans Depot has them listed.
http://www.sportsmans-depot.com/products/EI-GRAND-POWER-P40-10MM-14RD-BLUED-EI-GPP4010M.html
So uh...any range time feedback? :D
Not yet, should be able to get it out of detention this week or next. Then I head to the range. I don't have any premium factory ammo. I plan on starting out with light factory loads and then see how it likes my reloads.
So, has anyone else's come in yet?
Mine is backordered through Henning.
Your jail must be worse than mine.
I am so happy to have a Govenor that understands just how foolish these waiting times are. In Wisconsin fill out the paper work run the BGC and walk up the door with your handgun.
Quote from: Intercooler on February 08 2016 01:30:22 PM MST
Your jail must be worse than mine.
Nope, no waiting period. Just a light wallet. Next week hopefully.
A little blurb from ShotShow 2016.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EhL4cx9TvBA
I'm confused. We were told the P40L isn't coming at all ???
Did you fire any shots yet?
When they told me the first shipment of P40s came in, they told me that they had shipped some P40Ls to the BATFE for approval. They thought that it would be 60-90 days for the approval.
I should be able to pick up my GP Tue or Wed. Fingers crossed
Intercooler,
Would you suggest swapping out the stock firing pin spring with the one that comes with the Wolff XP pack?
I have never changed out any of my firing pin springs in anything. My Hunter still has it's original all these years later and I bought it used.
What spring did you pick up? Hopefully a CZ-75 20-22lb to cut down?
The CZ standard Extra Power pack is what I am ordering, I just wondered if I should also use the extra power firing pin spring that comes with the pack.
It might not even be the right length for the GP. If it's not broke I don't fix it!
Thanks
Well, I got it home today. I am now familiarizing myself with the assembly/ disassembly of the gun. The trigger is amazing, the reset incredibly short. One thing I can report is that the magazines have a black follower and are stamped K10. I will hopefully be able to get to the range Sun. , but I do have a lot of Accounting homework to knockout before then.
Good news! More pictures if you can...
So it takes standard EAA K10 magazines? Can you take a picture of the magazine? Hopefully the catch square isn't in the front like the 9mm version. If that's the case we have a cheap and plentiful source for them.
With some work that trigger can really shine, but good out of the box.
It looks like the front is the only place the catch could be. It probably wouldn't be too hard to use a standard EAA K10 stripped down matching up the release notch. Start a pilot hole with a drill bit and Dremel the remainder to fit it.
I have read more than one thread suggesting to remove part #52 to drop the trigger pull 1lb. I'm not so sure I need that but:
http://grandpower.eu/kategoria-19-clanok-231-detail-52-firing-spring-back-up-#ad-image-0
http://www.grandpower.eu/forum/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=127
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If you like a really light trigger pull... go for it!
Did you ever make it to the range?
Is Savage still with us?
FWIW:
Impact Guns has the P40 listed now, too:
https://www.impactguns.com/grand-power-grand-power-p40-10mm-425in-barrel-blue-finish-adjustable-rear-sight-14rd.aspx
When I get time, I'm going to try to get up and see if there's one in their store.
Sold out on there.
They had 6 on here the other night and only see 3 now:
http://gunwatcher.com/Search-best-price/grand-power-10mm-for-sale
Yeah, still here. Sorry, with carrying a full course load and the new job about the only day I have available to go to the range is Sun. and the weather hasn't been that cooperative for those lately. The good news is that Spring Break starts next week and the forecast for this Sun. looks great. I just have to find some time to load up some of my favorite load to test as well. As soon as I have anything to report I will.
This looks like a possible addition.
I know 20-30 are out there and not the first report yet.
Can you shoot all 3 rounds, 10mm .40 & .357 in the same barrel?
Intercooler, when the slide on your Grand Power is locked back, does it automatically release and load a round when a loaded mag. is inserted and "slapped" in? If I gently push the mag in this does not happen, but even then if I give the bottom of the mag a good slap the slide releases and goes to battery; without touching the slide release. Is this normal for Grand Powers?
Auto forward is a yes. It applies to EAA Witness pistols as well and you can get around it by going gentle. The competition guys like the auto forward though.
Just wondered. My EAA Witness Compact Polymer 10mm didn't automatically slide forward when I slapped mags, so I was not use to it. Thanks for the info.
Send it to me and I will wring it out for you!
OK, I got to the range and shot the GP and all I can say is...OMG, OMG, OMG[insert girly scream here]. It is an amazing firearm and I love everything about it, except one thing which may make it useless as a firearm. First the range report.
I fired a variety of ammo today, PPU 180gr HP, Winchester 175gr Silvertip, Buffalo Barnes 155gr TAC-XP, Sig 180gr FMJ, and my own load of a 180gr FP sitting over 9.2gr of 800x. The PPUs felt like a 9mm. I had a least 3 FTFs with them, it seem like the light ammo might not always have enough oomph to cycle the slide fully. The brass from the PPUs was usually at my feet or no more than two steps away at a 3:30 to 4:00 position.
The Winchester Silvertip cycled great and felt like a 9mm +P. At 12yds I had a beautiful mushroom cap of about 2 inches. The brass was 5-8 feet away at about the 4:00 to 5:00 position.
The Barnes had a noticeable, but very controllable kick to it and honestly was surprisingly pleasant to shoot. The brass was at the same position as the Silvertip but a around the 10-12 foot mark.
The Sig felt like it had the strongest recoil of all the ammo( but that could be because I shot it after having run through a box of 45 ACP), but was still very manageable and fun to shoot.
My handrolls seemed to similar to the Silvertips in recoil and more similar to the Barnes in brass location. Very fun to shoot and manageable.
The fact that I was able to police over 90% of my brass blows my mind. With my EAA and RIA the brass is tossed 20-30 feet and I am lucky to find 50% of it. This is a great shooting gun and the few FTFs seem to be more ammo than firearm. I had no problems with my Handrolls except 1 and it may be YUGE.
I don't know if it was me hitting the right side mag release or just the mag being somehow released by the recoil but I had quite a few instances where I fired the gun and the mag fell to the ground. In fact, on at least two occasions this happened 3 times in a row. I thought at first I might be easy gripping or limp wristing the gun and the recoil was slapping my hand into the mag release, but I tighten my grip and opened my fingers( to get them away from the mag release ) and it still occurred. It happened with my Handrolls and the Silvertips. I didn't shoot enough of the Barnes in a row to be able to see if happened with them. It did not ever happen with the light PPU loads. So, at this point I don't know if it is me or the gun that's dropping mags with stronger loads. Until we can get some other range reports from people and see if they have a similar problem I can't say that this is a reliable gun or if I am an unreliable shooter.
Hope this helps Cheers
Man you need to post some pics! Thanks for the range reports. 8)
Yes! Pictures would be great of the pistol and if you could take a few of the spent brass. Do you have a way to measure the expansion on the brass? Short of that a picture of them would tell some good information!
Does it have the red spring in it? Something with these pistols they seem to actually do better with weaker springs. That might actually be too much for PPU... believe it or not to cycle perfectly. I went down to a 10lb Wolff in my 9mm and it's perfect. They call the red a 14lb, but I suspect it's a little more than that. Then again you have a brand new pistol too. I'm actually pretty shocked about your brass distance too, since you have other 10's to compare it with. This is without cutting down the ejector too which always seems to help.
BTW... Is the Buffalo Barnes 155gr Buffalo Bore?
Yes. Buffalo Bore + barnes bullet = Buffalo Barnes load.
That's a good range of ammo then. You will have to let us know if you still have issues with the magazines going forward. Possibly the magazine pad isn't letting it seat enough or maybe the mag notch isn't enough?
These things have turned into Vaporware!
Someone ponied up 8 large ones :o
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=547002827
Went to the range again, was happy to see no mag drops this time. I really liked the 155gr JHP over 9.2gr. of 800-X. I will post pics of the brass in the next day or so. It looks good, I don't see any stepping.
Cool! Measurements would be a nice bonus too. It would be nice to see how 220's run in them.
I was just sitting around watching YouTube and started to do what I often do to keep my hands busy, I cleared my GP and disassembled it. This helps me get more familiar with the gun and the reassembly. As I was looking the various parts over, it struck me again, the craftsmanship and quality of this firearm. One thing that caught my eye, again, was the barrel collet of the slide. It is not some simple thin hole at the end of the slide, put there to act as a rudimentary guide for the barrel. The end of this slide is machined to have a 3/8 or 7/16 thick barrel guide. This thing is thick. I think the reason they may be able to do this is that, unlike a conventional tilt barrel which needs the room to allow the barrel to drop and tilt, this barrel stays straight and allows for the additional support this set up provides. What ever the reason I am still amazed and pleased at the time that was put into building this firearm.
I am see some cooper fouling in the barrel, but since I got the same with both my RIA and my EAA, I'm just chalking it up to 10mm fouls a little more.
Anyway, Cheers
The machining is really great on these. It's hard not to take notice of that. I read the other day a few decocker models are coming and that means we might be able to get conversion parts.
I'm going to ask a question and I mean absolutely no offense to anyone...but...I'm wondering about the craziness about these guns. They are a polymer 15rd semi-auto. Yes it is our beloved 10 Mike mike, but what else is the appeal? Maybe for those who don't lie glocks, or prefer da/sa?? But 700ish, you can get a nice eaa witness match or a glock and a ton of ammo and mags? It's awesome we got new guns coming out and maybe that's the appeal. Long as we keep this cartridge popular is all that matters...but it is an interesting gun, and yes I would lime to shoot one, but for over 700.00?? Thoughts...
I don't get it either. But, lots of my gun buddies don't get my fascination with the 10mm. I have a buddy who loves his Robison Arms XCR in 6.8 SPC, yet I have never seen it eat a whole magazine without a malfunction.
I like the idea of a better mousetrap. These guys are making a run at it. The rotating locking system in theoretically better for high pressure/impulse cartridges. But, I would guess this new system has a lot of kinks to work out. I spent my time on the bleeding edge.
My hat is off to you early adopters. But I will just read and watch.
The rotating lock up was very intriguing to me because the barrel doesn't tilt down like other pistols. The rotating barrel design theoretically would be less recoil flip and faster target reacquisition. But first and foremost any firearm needs to run like a sewing machine no matter what. ::)
I still like the concept and the looks of the GP P40 10mm, but like IC, I am reconsidering this one for several reasons, made overseas, very few coming into the states, parts availability overtime should it need replacement pieces.
For:
- Another Polymer option
- Rotating barrel
- Double stack
- Ergos both in grip and full ambidextrous
- Great trigger
- Great machining
- Full chamber support
- Aftermarket sights, holsters, etc...
- Easy to strip down
- Reduced ejected brass range
Against:
- Like finding a Unicorn
- No real supply of magazines for it
- Untested on the higher end stuff IMO
- Price is kind of up there compared to other Polymer units
- Velocity seems to be down versus shorter barrels in my 9mm testing
Thought it was time I posted some pictures of the chamber support on the Grand Power.
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Interesting, Thanks for the pictures. It will be interesting to see how it handles some of the higher impulse ammo?
180 grain XTP's over 9.6 grains of LongShot @ 1330 fps or 200 grain XTP's over 9.4 grains LongShot @ 1240 fps. These are what we have seen in other pistols...You may want to work up just to be sure the GP will deal with the impulse.
Still none available. Any chance you can get some Buffalo Bore or Underwood 220's and run through it with pre and post brass measurements?
I'm hoping the rotating barrel slows unlocking and somehow keeps the brass from being thrown into the next shooting bay. How far does your pistol throw the brass?
I haven't seen any additional units show up and we only have one reporting owner. Where did the rest of them go?
Quote from: Intercooler on May 06 2016 04:29:51 PM MDT
I haven't seen any additional units show up and we only have one reporting owner. Where did the rest of them go?
Good question. I about wish I had bid on the one with a 4.25" barrel that was on GunBroker, but I want the 5" Model that was reported here or on Brian's Forum that suppose to be here in the USA in the Fall. The lack of any more 4.25" Models is starting to concern me. If another pops up on GunBroker I may bite.
I'm beginning to wonder if I shouldn't, maybe, put it up and see if I wind up with a rare gun ala Bren Ten. The problem is I really love shooting this gun. I've already put around 500 rounds through it, so it's already well used.
Sonny, sorry I missed your question. I put the distances the brass in the first range report I post.
You would think someone who bought one of these in 10mm would be a member of one of the 10mm sub communities. I keep poking around looking for these but thus far nada. Russ
Savage,
Give us another report on how your visits have gone. Are the magazines okay now and any pre/post brass measurements?
Does anyone know if the Witness Magazine fits the Grand Power. Pictures of the Grand Power magazines looks so much like the Witness. It would be nice as I already have a supply of Witness Magazines. I Emailed Henning this week to be put on a list for a 5" Model.
The catch is at the front. You would have to DIY a Witness magazine.
Yeah, the only difference is the catch. I picked up a couple of GP mags while waiting for my P40. They are identical to my Witness mags except for the catch. Same body, same floor plate, same follower and even the same markings. By the way, the GP mags have the cuts for the catch for both GP and Witness so they can be used in either gun. Too bad the GP mags are so expensive.
Was just looking at the Grand Power USA - Eagle Imports Facebook page and on April 26th they posted a blurb for the P40 10mm. It was from their Grand Power page and didn't show anything new, but it was interesting that they were hyping it as little as 3 weeks ago. Hopefully they are getting some in and are wanting to keep it in the public's mind.
I'm hoping to see them soon, I'm very interested in getting one.
I guess it depends on use. The EAA pieces are still a big slice above the GP and it seems for not a whole lot more.
They are different, I like different.
I'm with you on that one! We still don't know how it's going to do with hardcast or extreme ammo yet.
Very true, I love experimenting however.
There is a new listing for a P40 10mm on Gun Broker (760 buy now + 25 ship). Maybe the new shipment has come in?
Found a quick video from the NRA show. P40 10mm is briefly talked about as well as the Q100 and the K22.
I think you need to do a video for us. We want to see the brass ejection distance.
Hello again Savage!
Can you possibly take a picture of your chamber and post it? I want to see if it's stepped like my 9mm barrel. Thanks!
It leaves me curious and intrigued. Like The_Shadow mentioned I'm too curious how well it handles a proper 180gr load at +1300fps and what the brass looks like afterwards. I'm intrigued by the benefits of the rotating barrel setup in conjunction with being able to shoot single action. From the earlier pics that SavageOne posted of chamber support, I feel that I wish it was improved around the base of the brass case but barrel chamber wall thickness sure is impressive. I would want the 5" barrel model.
I went to grandpower.eu and got this info and pics for the 5" barrel model;
P 40L
Caliber: .40 S&W / 10mm AUTO / .357 Sig
Trigger mechanism: SA / DA
Trigger pull weight: 20-25N / 35-40N
Overall length: 228.0mm (8.98")
Height without magazine: 136.0mm (5.35")
Width: 36.0mm (1.42")
Barrel length: 127.0mm (5.0")
Weight w/o magazine: 970g (34.2 ounces)
Weight w empty magazine: 985g (34.75 ounces)
Standard magazine capacity: 14
The P40 offers a unique rotating barrel mechanism to those who prefer shooting with powerful .40S&W / 10mm AUTO / .357 Sig rounds. Built on the latest generation of Mk12 polyamide handle, but it features a new steel dismantling catch which replaced the original trigger guard stop. This innovation results in a stronger handle, enhanced reliability and easier field stripping. The new rounded slide profile provides excellent handling and ergonomics. Longer L model provides even more accurate shooting and increased mass shifts center of gravity towards muzzle to further reduce muzzle lift.
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I'ld like to see pics of it from front and rear points of view.
Henning said the P40 has been held up due to no magazines. If I hear any new information I will pass it on. We need more of them in 10mm owner's hands to review.
Quote from: Intercooler on July 11 2016 02:01:59 AM MDT
Henning said the P40 has been held up due to no magazines.
I emailed Henning last week and got the same reply. Too bad they won't just send me a gun without mags. I've had 2 mags for a few months now!
Well I suppose that explains it. I've been waiting for one.
Curious when they might get some more mags in, I have been perusing Gunbroker for a while now. While I don't intend to buy one, I have only seen one or two for sale since they were released. The incredibly low stock surprises me even for a 10mm, you usually see more than 1-2 total for sale.
Then again, we know the 10mm wasnt high up on grand powers priority list, so who knows if they are even pushing their suppliers to get more mags. They may well just be sitting on this ignoring it.
Quote from: Intercooler on January 16 2016 08:52:19 AM MST
Recoil Calibration Paks
CZ75 Standard Models, including Full Size Baby Eagle with 4.4" barrel:
Reduced Power - Pak contains 1 each reduced power recoil springs in 9, 10, 11 and 12 pounds. Three extra power firing pin springs are also included for both EAA and other models. (Stock No. 13120)
Extra Power - Pak contains 1 each extra power recoil springs in 16, 18, 20 and 22 pounds. Three extra power firing pin springs are also included for both EAA and other models. (Stock No 13121)
Performance Pak 9mm - Pak contains 1 each 12 Lb. reduced power recoil spring, 16 Lb. extra power recoil spring, extra power firing pin spring and 17 Lb. reduced power hammer spring. (Stock No. 14100)
I purchased the reduced power pack for my 9mm and the competition guys are running an 11lb spring. I went with a 10lb and think it will do just fine for me. If you plan on running some Underwood, Buffalo Bore or even Sig Sauer in it, I would get that extra power pack and start with the 20lb.
Are you saying that I can use CZ75 recoil springs in my Grand Power P40 10mm?
Thanks.
I run that in my 9mm. Just have to cut it.
This just popped on gundeals at reddit:
http://tsswarehouse.com/shop/grand-power-p40-10mm-double-single-action-semi-auto-pistol-4-25-barrel-blue-finish-grand-power/?removed_item=1
Looks like they have 5 in stock right now.
Quote from: sqlbullet on January 31 2017 10:55:22 AM MST
This just popped on gundeals at reddit:
http://tsswarehouse.com/shop/grand-power-p40-10mm-double-single-action-semi-auto-pistol-4-25-barrel-blue-finish-grand-power/?removed_item=1
Looks like they have 5 in stock right now.
Looks like they HAD 5 in stock. ;D
4 in stock now