Just thought I'd share with the crew here that I managed to take my first deer with a 10mm on Sunday. It is the first non wounded deer I have taken with a handgun period. It's only a doe but it is a trophy to me.
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Very nice. Enjoy the venison.
One thing that surprised me was the amount of hair pulled into the wound track. Never seen that with rifle killed deer. I guess the hollow point of the 180XTP just grabbed a bunch of hair and drug it along as it penetrated. There was hair almost the entire wound track. I should have taken better pictures. Next time.
Congrats!
Spitzer bullets tend to pierce skin like a needle and then push it to the sides. The XTP with the big hollow point will paper punch a circle of skin and hair and then carry it along.
Congratulations, I have been carrying my G40 10mm with me in hopes of getting a deer in range. I am shooting 200gr xtp. I wouldn't like to see a handgun hunting thread on here that discusses what type firearm and bullet was used. How far away was she? Again nice job.
Congratulations! Any game animal with a handgun is trophy and you'll have plenty of good meat to eat this winter.
Was this Underwood Ammo ?
Quote from: sgtbones on December 03 2015 09:51:31 PM MST
Was this Underwood Ammo ?
My loads. 180 XTP, Starline brass, 10.3 gr bluedot.
10.3gr of Blue Dot is pretty light. My favorite load that shoots best in my G20 is 11.2gr with a 180XTP and WLP primer. Chonographs at 1233fps from my 29 and 1294fps from my 20
Without judgement, I just want to comment that 11.0 grains of Blue Dot is a max load for a 180 grain JHP>
Excellent........someday maybe I'll be able to too.
Quote from: TSP45ACP on December 12 2015 07:16:07 PM MST
Excellent........someday maybe I'll be able to too.
I would like to shoot a deer such as that. John Taffin's "formula" is becoming increasingly hard to duplicate these days, because no one is manufacturing a 170-grain JHP as of late.
I'll "beat a dead horse" once again, by quoting John Taffin's old 1991 recipe: "A
warm load consisting of 13 grains of Accurate Arms #7 behind a Nosler 170-grain JHP yielding 1374 fps from a 7" slide/barrel IAI Javalina". This load should generate 1324 fps from a 5" barreled 1911 Dan Wesson Razoback, and about 1315 fps from a Glock Model 20.
This handload deserves reproduction and range testing to determine if this isn't a
great product to be used for harvesting many types of medium-sized game.
Captain O
Quote from: sqlbullet on December 12 2015 10:56:28 AM MST
Without judgement, I just want to comment that 11.0 grains of Blue Dot is a max load for a 180 grain JHP>
I agree, these are not nuclear loads but they clock 1206fps average for 10 shots. I figured this was enough horsepower for the small Missouri whitetail I took with it.
Quote from: Pumpkinheaver on December 20 2015 08:20:09 PM MST
I agree, these are not nuclear loads but they clock 1206fps average for 10 shots. I figured this was enough horsepower for the small Missouri whitetail I took with it.
Congratulations on the harvest and the effectiveness of your
ammo. "Pictures worth a thousand words."
It should be noted that Taffin's load from 1991 is 25 years old and is over max by 8% according to current load data. The max load of 12.0 grains is reported by the manufacturer to produce 37,500 PSI and 1304 fps, although barrel length is not reported.
Cartridge overall length is 1.250" for the cataloged load. Increasing that to 1.260" should reduce pressure by about 850 psi, and create a bit of headroom for some additional velocity, but I doubt it would safely accommodate an extra grain of powder.
It looks... DELICIOUS!
Quote from: sqlbullet on December 21 2015 07:03:37 AM MST
It should be noted that Taffin's load from 1991 is 25 years old and is over max by 8% according to current load data. The max load of 12.0 grains is reported by the manufacturer to produce 37,500 PSI and 1304 fps, although barrel length is not reported.
Cartridge overall length is 1.250" for the cataloged load. Increasing that to 1.260" should reduce pressure by about 850 psi, and create a bit of headroom for some additional velocity, but I doubt it would safely accommodate an extra grain of powder.
The newer load
should produce about 1355 from my 7" Javalina. While it may not be as
warm as John's "original" load, it should still perform reasonably well on medium-sized game.
Man, I love the TEN! What a great round
Quote from: surfshack on January 30 2016 07:43:53 PM MST
Man, I love the TEN! What a great round
YUP sure is! ;D ;D
Congratulations on the deer you done good!!
Concerning your load, if your experienced and responsible, you know how to work up a load that is safe in your gun. Loading manuals are a GUIDE NOT GOSPEL. If your NOT experienced and dont know what to look for, dont tread here, start where the "book" says and stop before the top of the book recommended loadings. I recommend as a reloader, to take the time to read and learn the pressure signs and get the fullest and safest loadings from YOUR GUN. This is the key, YOUR GUN. Thats because ALL are different and MANY factors raise and lower pressures all unknown to the posters reading this post.
Be safe and load to your comfort level.
CW
Quote from: Rojo27 on December 21 2015 06:29:00 AM MST
Quote from: Pumpkinheaver on December 20 2015 08:20:09 PM MST
I agree, these are not nuclear loads but they clock 1206fps average for 10 shots. I figured this was enough horsepower for the small Missouri whitetail I took with it.
Congratulations on the harvest and the effectiveness of your
ammo. "Pictures worth a thousand words."
Thank you.
"Trophy" is what it is in the eye of the hunter. Any animal taken with a handgun is a trophy for me. I congratulate you in the killing of your trophy handgun animal. Maybe you could fill us inn with more details about distance of the shot, the deers reaction, shot placement and how far the deer traveled after being shot. Enjoy your venison!
Goat
Quote from: Pumpkinheaver on December 20 2015 08:20:09 PM MSTI agree, these are not nuclear loads but they clock 1206fps average for 10 shots. I figured this was enough horsepower for the small Missouri whitetail I took with it.
To me that's about the perfect velocity for the 180gr. I don't see a need in ever really exceeding 1200-1250 fps with 180gr (also 200gr) because even at those speeds the tougher bullets like the 180gr XTP and Gold Dot are already being pushed to their performance limit. I've tested both and at 1200 fps the XTP was already shedding bullet weight well enough that to push it faster would only mean more weight loss and in turn, less penetration. Congrats on the deer.