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10mm Ammuntion => Reloading 10mm ammo => Topic started by: Intercooler on November 04 2015 04:14:30 PM MST

Title: Graf & Sons has Armscor, PPU and Starline brass
Post by: Intercooler on November 04 2015 04:14:30 PM MST
http://www.grafs.com/retail/catalog/category/categoryId/520?


They have other calibers too and I didn't know PPU offered brass.

Title: Re: Graf & Sons has Armscor, PPU and Starline brass
Post by: sqlbullet on November 04 2015 04:19:08 PM MST
Still more than starline direct.   I guess if you wanted less than 1K cases.
Title: Re: Graf & Sons has Armscor, PPU and Starline brass
Post by: Benchrst on November 05 2015 10:09:09 PM MST
I order Starline from Amazon - Always in stock, $24 per 100 w/ free 2 day shipping.
Title: Re: Graf & Sons has Armscor, PPU and Starline brass
Post by: DM1906 on November 06 2015 10:00:56 AM MST
Quote from: Benchrst on November 05 2015 10:09:09 PM MST
I order Starline from Amazon - Always in stock, $24 per 100 w/ free 2 day shipping.

That's 24 cents per case. Starline direct is 16-19 cents per case, depending on quantity, shipping included. If you are an avid loader/shooter, it adds up very quick.
Title: Re: Graf & Sons has Armscor, PPU and Starline brass
Post by: halfglocked on November 08 2015 10:29:00 PM MST
is PPU safe for reloading? I asking because of prior posts  about loaded ammunition  having numerous  case failures.
Title: Re: Graf & Sons has Armscor, PPU and Starline brass
Post by: The_Shadow on November 09 2015 06:47:20 AM MST
There have been some issues with the PPU brass, poor quality and not very malleable (didn't hold it resized dimensions and bullet setback) this may have be what lead to the problems.   ???
Title: Re: Graf & Sons has Armscor, PPU and Starline brass
Post by: DM1906 on November 09 2015 10:49:00 AM MST
Quote from: The_Shadow on November 09 2015 06:47:20 AM MST
There have been some issues with the PPU brass, poor quality and not very malleable (didn't hold it resized dimensions and bullet setback) this may have be what lead to the problems.   ???

This has been my experience, as well. The .380's are OK (marginally), but any larger and they aren't worth messing with. They go straight to scrap. There are some really good Eastern brass available. PPU isn't one of them, IMO.
Title: Re: Graf & Sons has Armscor, PPU and Starline brass
Post by: gandog56 on November 10 2015 07:56:58 AM MST
I see now their Armscor brass is out of stock. I have a few of them from a brass swap I made. I haven't reloaded any of them yet.
Title: Re: Graf & Sons has Armscor, PPU and Starline brass
Post by: halfglocked on November 14 2015 01:52:09 PM MST
thank you for the input because I found some PPU brass for 17.00$ on ammo seek and after reading everyone's posts decided against it,has anyone had any experience with Winchester  or Hornady ?if what seperate their brass from Starline 10mm?Is it better ,stronger ?
Title: Re: Graf & Sons has Armscor, PPU and Starline brass
Post by: The_Shadow on November 14 2015 01:55:33 PM MST
Winchester is good except it tarnishes quickly.  Hornady is good to go, but you may see some split over time.
Title: Re: Graf & Sons has Armscor, PPU and Starline brass
Post by: Intercooler on November 14 2015 06:02:23 PM MST
Quote from: halfglocked on November 14 2015 01:52:09 PM MST
thank you for the input because I found some PPU brass for 17.00$ on ammo seek and after reading everyone's posts decided against it,has anyone had any experience with Winchester  or Hornady ?if what seperate their brass from Starline 10mm?Is it better ,stronger ?
I don't know about their virgin brass. Perhaps it's different, or at least good for one loading.
Title: Re: Graf & Sons has Armscor, PPU and Starline brass
Post by: halfglocked on November 14 2015 10:52:23 PM MST
Quote from: Intercooler on November 14 2015 06:02:23 PM MST
Quote from: halfglocked on November 14 2015 01:52:09 PM MST
thank you for the input because I found some PPU brass for 17.00$ on ammo seek and after reading everyone's posts decided against it,has anyone had any experience with Winchester  or Hornady ?if what seperate their brass from Starline 10mm?Is it better ,stronger ?
I don't know about their virgin brass. Perhaps it's different, or at least good for one loading.

Iam not willing to take that chance ,I load pretty warm and the last thing I want to worry about is if the brass is up to par
Title: Re: Graf & Sons has Armscor, PPU and Starline brass
Post by: sqlbullet on November 16 2015 09:36:22 AM MST
Quote from: halfglocked on November 14 2015 10:52:23 PM MST
Iam not willing to take that chance ,I load pretty warm and the last thing I want to worry about is if the brass is up to par

Not when known-quality brass is readily available.
Title: Re: Graf & Sons has Armscor, PPU and Starline brass
Post by: gandog56 on November 22 2015 08:07:48 AM MST
I just got 100 10mm cases of Jagemann brass from Reloading Unlimited. Never saw this brass before, but always willing to try it.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v196/Gandog56/GEDC0069_zpslyuvui0r.jpg)