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Title: Should You Dry Fire a Glock?
Post by: The_Shadow on September 17 2012 03:31:13 PM MDT
Here is an article to explain more about the problems dryfiring can cause...

http://www.glockforum.com/entries/Should-You-Dry-Fire-a-Glock.html (http://www.glockforum.com/entries/Should-You-Dry-Fire-a-Glock.html)
Title: Re: Should You Dry Fire a Glock?
Post by: sqlbullet on September 17 2012 03:47:11 PM MDT
Well....

That stinks.  Never have been a fan of snap caps.
Title: Re: Should You Dry Fire a Glock?
Post by: Rick1987 on September 18 2012 10:28:53 AM MDT
Same here, slows things down.

I notice that you don't have to eject the snap cap to reset the trigger tho, just pull the slide back a little.
Title: Re: Should You Dry Fire a Glock?
Post by: Yondering on September 18 2012 10:46:51 AM MDT
Did anyone else notice the cracked breech face area almost exactly matches the rim of the case? The striker diameter is much smaller than that. I'm not discounting it completely, but it seems a little odd.
Title: Re: Should You Dry Fire a Glock?
Post by: sqlbullet on September 18 2012 10:50:06 AM MDT
It is not the ejection that bothers me about snap caps.  It is the dropping of the hammer/striker on a chamber that is not empty.  Just seems to beg the day that one clears the gun improperly, then gets distracted and thinks the snap cap is loaded when in fact it is a live round.

I will have to stew on this a little.
Title: Re: Should You Dry Fire a Glock?
Post by: Vice on September 18 2012 01:35:37 PM MDT
I thought the Almighty Glock was unbreakable?  :o
Title: Re: Should You Dry Fire a Glock?
Post by: REDLINE on September 18 2012 02:01:13 PM MDT
I don't understand that anyone feels the need to dry fire there gun, any gun, to the extent required to self destruct a Glock from doing it.  Not if you shoot the gun any amount worth noting anyway.  I can understand after getting a new gun that one is unfamiliar with, dry firing to get the overall "feel" of it/them in general, yeah fine, dry fire it, maybe even a few hundred on up to around a thousand (for those that are truely lost) times.  But after that, IMO, you're just dry firing to dry fire.  And if not, shooting is probably not your forte to begin with, where one should just quit while they're behind, and get a scatter gun.  I suppose some folks are simply dry-firing-freaks.  To each their own I guess.  That will certainly never be an issue either of my Glocks will have to worry about.
Title: Re: Should You Dry Fire a Glock?
Post by: EdMc on September 18 2012 02:02:08 PM MDT
Quote from: Vice on September 18 2012 01:35:37 PM MDT
I thought the Almighty Glock was unbreakable?  :o


Watch it there buddy, it's 'Glock Perfection'.  ;D
Title: Re: Should You Dry Fire a Glock?
Post by: Vice on September 18 2012 06:31:17 PM MDT
Quote from: REDLINE on September 18 2012 02:01:13 PM MDT
I don't understand that anyone feels the need to dry fire there gun, any gun, to the extent required to self destruct a Glock from doing it.  Not if you shoot the gun any amount worth noting anyway.  I can understand after getting a new gun that one is unfamiliar with, dry firing to get the overall "feel" of it/them in general, yeah fine, dry fire it, maybe even a few hundred on up to around a thousand (for those that are truely lost) times.  But after that, IMO, you're just dry firing to dry fire.  And if not, shooting is probably not your forte to begin with, where one should just quit while they're behind, and get a scatter gun.  I suppose some folks are simply dry-firing-freaks.  To each their own I guess.  That will certainly never be an issue either of my Glocks will have to worry about.

Hardcore competition shooters dryfire practice very regular.  Many do so daily, dryfiring hundreds of times per day to maintain or better their proficientcy.
Title: Re: Should You Dry Fire a Glock?
Post by: Patriot on September 18 2012 07:51:41 PM MDT
I refuse to dry fire any gun. If my trigger gets pulled there is a bullet in it. Period. To me, it just isn't safe. I treat all guns as loaded, that was beat into me by my grandfather. I don't ever want to be that guy that has a BOOM go off in the garage.
Title: Should You Dry Fire a Glock?
Post by: Bro KV on September 18 2012 08:38:12 PM MDT
Not a Glock owner?
Title: Re: Should You Dry Fire a Glock?
Post by: sqlbullet on September 19 2012 07:46:57 AM MDT
I dry fire an enormous amount, and think if you don't you are really missing the boat.  Like Vice says, those who shoot professionally report that they pull the trigger about 100 times on empty for every live round they fire.

Dry fire combats flinch, it creates muscle memory, and in general improves your all important trigger skills.  Jeff Cooper advocated a minimum of 5 dry fires each night when the gun was being stowed for your sleep cycle.

Additionally, I only get to the range at most twice a month for a few hours.  Dry fire allows me to practice every day.

As  far as safety, I still don't violate any of the rules.  The gun is treated as if it were loaded.  It is only pointed at things I would be willing to destroy.  I don't place my finger on the trigger until my sights are on target, and I am sure of my target and backstop.

I don't care for snap caps because I like to be in habit of verifying an empty chamber.  I will probably continue to dry fire my G29 empty.  If the slide fails I will have it replaced.
Title: Re: Should You Dry Fire a Glock?
Post by: DM1906 on September 19 2012 08:58:46 AM MDT
If dry firing your Glock was damaging, they'd be falling down across the globe.  While I suppose it is possible, it appears to be very limited, isolated cases.  I seriously doubt dry firing is the cause in most, if not all, cases it's been associated.  I've only heard of it happening (on the internet forums, once including this one, which has been repeated in a lot of different places).  I've handled, shot, owned and seen Glock pistols for more than 20 years.  No, I don't believe the little (tiny) bit of hammering behind the breach is more punishing than the beating going on in front of it.  Some firearms shouldn't be dry fired ever, for similar and different reasons (I repair a bunch of them, mostly shotguns, and .22 rimfire).  Snap-Caps are a matter of choice or convenience for Glock owners/users, I think.  If this were a real issue, you can bet every issuing LEO department would also be issuing Snap-Caps.  Every Glock gets dry fired at one time or another, most of them a LOT.  Not always for the purpose of practice, or anything specific.  Try to disassemble your Glock pistol without dry firing it.  You can do it (I've had to a few times), but it's hardly convenient, and wasn't designed as a regular practice.
Title: Re: Should You Dry Fire a Glock?
Post by: REDLINE on September 25 2012 10:53:44 AM MDT
Quote from: sqlbullet on September 19 2012 07:46:57 AM MDT
I dry fire an enormous amount, and think if you don't you are really missing the boat.
And I wouldn't tell anyone not to, I just don't feel the need myself.
Title: Re: Should You Dry Fire a Glock?
Post by: REDLINE on September 25 2012 10:55:27 AM MDT
Quote from: DM1906 on September 19 2012 08:58:46 AM MDT
If dry firing your Glock was damaging, they'd be falling down across the globe.  While I suppose it is possible, it appears to be very limited, isolated cases.  I seriously doubt dry firing is the cause in most, if not all, cases it's been associated.

Well said.
Title: Re: Should You Dry Fire a Glock?
Post by: Maine1 on September 28 2012 03:09:45 AM MDT
a weapon, besides a 22, that cannot be dry fired is not worth owning. Dry firing is THE way to learn/practice/perfect technique.

I am not satisfied with an "ok" or mediocre level of skills. Dry fire is a major component in this practice.
Title: Re: Should You Dry Fire a Glock?
Post by: Rick1987 on October 01 2012 04:40:44 AM MDT
Quote from: Maine1 on September 28 2012 03:09:45 AM MDT
a weapon, besides a 22, that cannot be dry fired is not worth owning. Dry firing is THE way to learn/practice/perfect technique.

I am not satisfied with an "ok" or mediocre level of skills. Dry fire is a major component in this practice.

I don't think anyone said Glock can not be dry fired.

I dry fire mine all I want, it something happens then I will just send it back to glock to get it fixed.