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Title: Glock 29 carry question ?
Post by: Tomcat 10 on July 05 2015 02:33:39 PM MDT
 If I use my Glock 29 for EDC , do I need to keep everything Totally stock ?   
Title: Re: Glock 29 carry question ?
Post by: The_Shadow on July 05 2015 03:38:55 PM MDT
I carry mine with the Wolff two piece guide rod and the 21 lbs spring set, other than that it is stock!
Title: Re: Glock 29 carry question ?
Post by: Tomcat 10 on July 05 2015 04:31:39 PM MDT
Shadow , Thank you .   Will aftermarket parts cause any problems in your defense , if you are involved  a SD shooting ?

  Parts like Trigger connector , guide rod , 20 + #  recoil spring , after market Barrel , LWD , KKM , ect. ?
Title: Re: Glock 29 carry question ?
Post by: Osageid on July 05 2015 04:44:40 PM MDT
Same as shadow, gotta love the 29. 
Title: Re: Glock 29 carry question ?
Post by: Tomcat 10 on July 05 2015 05:00:08 PM MDT
Quote from: Osageid on July 05 2015 04:44:40 PM MDT
Same as shadow, gotta love the 29.
Title: Re: Glock 29 carry question ?
Post by: Pablo on July 05 2015 07:18:36 PM MDT
Stock barrel, unless you have it reamed (bored out) to factory diameter. Lone Wolf (for example) is tight which is good in several aspects but too tight and you WILL have feeding problems. I know this from experience on 17's, 19's, 20's and 29's.
Title: Re: Glock 29 carry question ?
Post by: Tomcat 10 on July 05 2015 07:44:44 PM MDT
  I have a KKM Barrel , because the stock barrel has an unsupported chamber , which allows the brass to swell too much .  I reload , so I don't need bulging brass , with a short re loadable life span .  My carry gun will be the one  I will be shooting the most , so I will be shooting a lot of reloads .
Title: Re: Glock 29 carry question ?
Post by: cwall64 on July 05 2015 08:00:45 PM MDT
I have read several articles from Massad Ayoob where he recommends not modifying your EDC gun in any way as forensics will go through it with a fine tooth comb...  One mans opinion, but he does have a lot of court experience.  I have changed out the RSA on mine to better handle the full strength loads.
Title: Re: Glock 29 carry question ?
Post by: Dave84 on July 05 2015 09:01:37 PM MDT
I have a Ghost connector in mine, night sights, extended slide release. I'm really not too worried. I would worry more about if the potential shooting is justified or not.
Title: Re: Glock 29 carry question ?
Post by: Tomcat 10 on July 06 2015 04:34:52 AM MDT
Quote from: Pablo on July 05 2015 07:18:36 PM MDT
Stock barrel, unless you have it reamed (bored out) to factory diameter. Lone Wolf (for example) is tight which is good in several aspects but too tight and you WILL have feeding problems. I know this from experience on 17's, 19's, 20's and 29's.

Thank you for your input , but why would aftermarket barrel makers design a barrel that would have feed problems .  This is the first time I am hearing of this . 
If anyone else has experienced feed problems with LWD , KKM , or any other aftermarket barrel please post the facts in this thread .

TIA
Title: Re: Glock 29 carry question ?
Post by: tommac919 on July 06 2015 07:11:43 AM MDT
Quote from: Tomcat 10 on July 06 2015 04:34:52 AM MDT

, but why would aftermarket barrel makers design a barrel that would have feed problems .  This is the first time I am hearing of this


It's not the the barrels are designed to have feed problems but that the barrels are tighter than the stock barrel .  The "looseness" of the stock barrel was designed to allow any ammo to feed more dependable and increase reliability. 

The tighter aftermarket barrels help only re-loaders keep expansion of the case lower and / or some that prefer for lead bullets.
Title: Re: Glock 29 carry question ?
Post by: Tomcat 10 on July 06 2015 07:18:43 AM MDT
Quote from: tommac919 on July 06 2015 07:11:43 AM MDT
Quote from: Tomcat 10 on July 06 2015 04:34:52 AM MDT

, but why would aftermarket barrel makers design a barrel that would have feed problems .  This is the first time I am hearing of this


It's not the the barrels are designed to have feed problems but that the barrels are tighter than the stock barrel .  The "looseness" of the stock barrel was designed to allow any ammo to feed more dependable and increase reliability. 

The tighter aftermarket barrels help only re-loaders keep expansion of the case lower and / or some that prefer for lead bullets.
I know why Glock , makes their chamber larger ,  but I have not read of anyone having feed problems with aftermarket barrels .
Title: Re: Glock 29 carry question ?
Post by: cwall64 on July 06 2015 08:02:32 AM MDT
I have a 29 with stock barrel and a 20 with KKM barrel - I have had one or two not feed properly on the KKM, 100% my fault with long OAL or not removing enough of the expansion when taper crimping, but it does happen a few time out of several thousand rounds...  The 29 stock barrel has never given me any issues on my reloads.
Title: Re: Glock 29 carry question ?
Post by: Tomcat 10 on July 06 2015 12:22:44 PM MDT
Do you reload the ones that you shoot in the stock barrel ? Do they give you any problem when re sizing ?
Title: Re: Glock 29 carry question ?
Post by: cwall64 on July 06 2015 02:33:58 PM MDT
Quote from: Tomcat 10 on July 06 2015 12:22:44 PM MDT
Do you reload the ones that you shoot in the stock barrel ? Do they give you any problem when re sizing ?

Yes, I do.  The below loads clocked 1298 fps out of the G20, KKM barrel, and 24 lbs RSA on a CE Chrony at 10 ft.

I tend to pass them all through a Redding G-RX die - I do not think it is needed on either, just my OCD...  I can tell a difference when running through the die, 29s take a tad move effort, KKMs really do not take any.

These were with Accurate max load on their website for #9 and 180 grain Hornady HAPs (Hornady says use XTP data) of 13.5 grains.  I know that Hornady #9 has higher load data, but these were rather stout.  The 29s are measuring around 0.432 - 0.433 (majority measured were 0.4325), the ones in the 20 w/KKM are measuring 0.428 on pretty much all of them.  This was new Starline brass that had already had two other max loads on them with BE-86 and Longshot - so 3rd loading.
Title: Re: Glock 29 carry question ?
Post by: Tomcat 10 on July 06 2015 02:46:40 PM MDT
Wow , Thank you for all the information .    Is the Redding G-RX die the one they call the bulge buster ?
Title: Re: Glock 29 carry question ?
Post by: cwall64 on July 06 2015 02:52:16 PM MDT
Quote from: Tomcat 10 on July 06 2015 02:46:40 PM MDT
Wow , Thank you for all the information .    Is the Redding G-RX die the one they call the bulge buster ?

Similar, Lee makes the Bulge buster and it is a lot less expensive than the Redding product...  Using the pass-through die gives me the chance to inspect each piece of brass, after I do that sizing they go directly into the hopper on my Dillon 650 and I load from there.  I like the extra step of touching all the brass as i mentioned it allows me to inspect it closely.
Title: Re: Glock 29 carry question ?
Post by: Tomcat 10 on July 06 2015 03:16:20 PM MDT
Quote from: cwall64 on July 06 2015 02:52:16 PM MDT
Quote from: Tomcat 10 on July 06 2015 02:46:40 PM MDT
Wow , Thank you for all the information .    Is the Redding G-RX die the one they call the bulge buster ?

Similar, Lee makes the Bulge buster and it is a lot less expensive than the Redding product...
Thank you , Do you think the Lee Die will do as good of a job as the Redding G-RX Die ?
Title: Re: Glock 29 carry question ?
Post by: cwall64 on July 06 2015 04:32:19 PM MDT
I would imagine that it works just as good if not better!  I know there are several on the forum that love the Lee die.
Title: Re: Glock 29 carry question ?
Post by: sstewart on July 06 2015 05:13:07 PM MDT
I have the GRX carbide version. It works real good. Don't have the Lee. Carbide equals no lube. Pretty sure you have to use lube with the Lee.
Title: Re: Glock 29 carry question ?
Post by: DM1906 on July 06 2015 08:00:57 PM MDT
Quote from: sstewart on July 06 2015 05:13:07 PM MDT
I have the GRX carbide version. It works real good. Don't have the Lee. Carbide equals no lube. Pretty sure you have to use lube with the Lee.

The Lee FCD/Bulge Buster is carbide. No lube.
Title: Re: Glock 29 carry question ?
Post by: Tomcat 10 on July 07 2015 05:35:00 AM MDT
 I ordered the Lee BB , to resize my brass  , and I think I will use my KKM Barrel for practice at the range .  I will just change the barrel for when I carry . I think that will help give my brass a longer life .   I hope I will never have to run any rounds through the stock Glock Barrel .
Title: Re: Glock 29 carry question ?
Post by: sstewart on July 07 2015 09:17:41 AM MDT

Quote from: DM1906 on July 06 2015 08:00:57 PM MDT
Quote from: sstewart on July 06 2015 05:13:07 PM MDT
I have the GRX carbide version. It works real good. Don't have the Lee. Carbide equals no lube. Pretty sure you have to use lube with the Lee.

The Lee FCD/Bulge Buster is carbide. No lube.
Thanks for updating my misinformation.
Title: Re: Glock 29 carry question ?
Post by: DM1906 on July 07 2015 09:18:57 AM MDT
Do you have the Lee FCD? The Bulge Buster kit is not caliber-specific, and does not include the die to perform sizing. The FCD is required for sizing, and the kit fits with it to perform pass-through sizing duties. Also note, traditional case sizing with your sizing die is still necessary.
Title: Re: Glock 29 carry question ?
Post by: Tomcat 10 on July 07 2015 01:06:15 PM MDT
Quote from: DM1906 on July 07 2015 09:18:57 AM MDT
Do you have the Lee FCD? The Bulge Buster kit is not caliber-specific, and does not include the die to perform sizing. The FCD is required for sizing, and the kit fits with it to perform pass-through sizing duties. Also note, traditional case sizing with your sizing die is still necessary.

  Thank you for pointing that out .   Yes I do have the Lee FCDs for the .40 / 10mm , and the FCD for the 9mm Luger .  I have the Lee 4 Die sets for each Which I have mounted in the Dillon 650 Tool Heads .   I also ordered an extra FCD for each so I don't have to remove the FCDs from the Tool Heads for the BB .  The FCDs were only 14.95 each on EBay .