Im thinking the witness in wonder finish as a first buy 10mm.
Besides changing the spring to a 20lb what else do I need to do
to make it a good shooter.
If you have had any problems with yours please let me know before I plunk down
my hard earned cash...thanks guys ;)
I would try a search first. It will bring up what you seek.
I had a full size witness in wonder finish as my EDC for several years. I ran a 22 lb recoil spring, and +10/15% magazine springs in red follower mags. I had the occasional FTF during the first 300 rounds. At about that time my 22 lb spring showed up, and the mag springs, and I started leaving the mags loaded all the time. Since then the only time I have an issue is if I let a magazine sit empty. Then that mag will give me problems.
Several years back I carried the gun during a week long camping trip. During that time the gun remained in the IWB holster the entire week. When I got home it had rusted on the left side, with some very minor pitting. To fix this I buffed it good then then later sand blasted and cerakoted the entire gun black.
(http://fellingfamily.net/images/witnessComplete.jpg)
Much better looking now.
I have since acquired a Glock 29 and a Para P-16-40 which I converted to 10mm. The Glock is a very handy concealed carry gun due to size and weight, and the Para is slightly smaller than the Witness while holding two more rounds. As a result, the Witness has become my wife's night-stand gun. It is a solid firearm and I would have no concerns about carrying it tomorrow.
That Cerakote finish looks great
Thanks!
It has been quite durable as well. I probably have close to 2K rounds through since this pic, and it looks the same.
Didn't adhere quite as well to the stainless slide of my Para. That slide is starting to show it's edges, but it just gives me warm fuzzy feelings to know that I put all that wear into it. :D
Quote from: Intercooler on June 01 2015 07:29:34 AM MDT
I would try a search first. It will bring up what you seek.
Belive it or not I tryed search EAA witness 10mm and got mo matches
How much can you get one for? Reason why I ask is I have both the Wonder Finish fullsize and the Elite Match. I was gifted the fullsize and its pretty good but the trigger left me wanting. I picked up the Match for only 579 and the trigger is like silk in comparison. Adjustable sights, great finish. Very beautiful gun. Either one would serve you well I'm sure. All NEW ones will come with K10 mags (black follower).
I recently bought the wonder finish 10 and I love it so far. I changed out the recoil spring to a 20 lb Wolff and the Hennings cone fit guide rod. The trigger on mine is smooth as silk. I also have a Witness PS 9 mm and the trigger on the 10 is both lighter and smoother in both double and single action. If anything the single action is scary light on mine. Order a crossman LPA MIM rear sight (model number 2300-010.) The PS 9 shot low as did the WF 10 , I put the MIM on the 9 and it fixed that, I'm going to put one on the 10 as well.
Im paying $520 Dave...
I'd spend a little more and get the match
Quote from: 10mmfan on June 02 2015 05:58:35 AM MDT
I'd spend a little more and get the match
I have both. I very much like both. The Match is a great value in a 10mm gun at about $650 delivered if you shop hard. It might be the best all around value in a 10mm handgun.
But, there are some roles I don't think it fills well. The blue finish of the slide is not rust resistant at all. It has lots of very sharp edges too. And while the extra .5" of slide tames recoil a bunch, it also adds a good bit of weight. So, despite the fact I bought mine with the intent to have it be my every day carry, I don't think I have ever carried it once. It is pretty much a range/home defense gun.
The standard full-size, while no-where near as refined, is a solid gun too. And it is not sharp, and the wonder finish does OK as long as you take it out of the holster every night and give it a quick wipe down. It is still a heavy gun, but .5" less slide than the match is noticeable just holding it, let alone after a day in the holster.
So, depending on purpose, I might spend a little more and get the Match. In reality you ultimately want both though.
If you are willing to spend $350 more:
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=484778707
This would an awesome "all roles" Witness.
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Belive it or not I tryed search EAA witness 10mm and got mo matches
http://10mm-firearms.com/10mm-semi-auto-handguns/witness-poly-10mm-do-i-or-don't-i/msg39796/#msg39796
Is this to be a range gun or for carry? Someone mentioned something about that and if that is the case the Eaa pcarry or the glock 29 would be the way to go.
While the stock looks like a great gun ...is it worth twice what I payed for my standard witness?
Explain why....
Probably not. Just swap the parts out and have fun!
The match is truly the best bang for the buck.
The stock is similar to buying a Springfield Custom Shop or S&W Performance center gun. Dimensionally it is the same as the standard full size. It has a bull barrel rather than a standard barrel.
But, it gets a run through the Tanfoglio custom shop. You are far less likely to have an issue with the Stock, it will be more accurate, more refined.
Hey..I didn't buy one either. At the time I didn't have the budget for a $900 gun. Plus, at the time you couldn't every find them.
But, I had to "tinker" a bit with my full-size before I was happy with it. Didn't have to with my Match, and don't think I would with a stock either.
While I agree the Match is a great value, I just don't see it filling certain roles very well.
I have ordered a new guide rod.20lb spring and buffer.
A extended safety would be nice...this one is a little small IMO...
Looks like another $60...ouch
Quote from: Dave84 on June 03 2015 08:06:57 PM MDT
The match is truly the best bang for the buck.
The Match is only single action, which turns away a lot of buyers.
You can swap the trigger on the Match, but not many do. The Limited Pro is an excellent piece if you can swing it.
Quote from: Patriot on June 06 2015 11:10:11 AM MDT
Quote from: Dave84 on June 03 2015 08:06:57 PM MDT
The match is truly the best bang for the buck.
The Match is only single action, which turns away a lot of buyers.
I must be the oddball I love sao guns.
Me too. Plus the thing is huge. Probably wouldn't try and carry it. A great home defense and range gun. If you were to carry one of their guns I would invest in a Melonite or Gunkote job. The Blueing and wonder finish is too sensitive in my opinion.
+1 on SAO. I just don't see the hang up.
The Polymer P-Carry is the piece for toting around (DA/SA, rail, fixed sights). I also love their SA only versions!
Quote from: sstewart on June 06 2015 10:13:26 PM MDT
+1 on SAO. I just don't see the hang up.
When I was a military police officer we had to qualify with the 1911 and simulate an injury to our non shooting hand. Very few people could pull the hammer back on their 1911 while conducting intense shooting scenarios with only one hand, especially if it was a struggling with a suspect scenario. With the double action M9 Beretta, this wasn't an issue. In a perfect world, no problems would occur and you would have time to pull the hammer back. In an emergency where adrenaline is pumping and things happen so fast, just pulling the trigger can save your life.
No but cocked & locked. You can't flick the safety off.
I guess it would be hard with out ambi
But why single out SAO. Striker fire is the same or worst. Nobody bad mouths glock m&p etc.
Quote from: sstewart on June 07 2015 11:23:10 AM MDT
But why single out SAO. Striker fire is the same or worst. Nobody bad mouths glock m&p etc.
Striker fire works the same as double action, not single action. Pulling the trigger fires the gun from any condition as long as a round is in the chamber. Not so with single action.
I still haven't had the experience of a round failing to fire on the first strike and working on the second, I have always had to eject it.
Looking hard at a 10mm stock 3. How does that rank in the lineup?
Quote from: scubadds on June 07 2015 03:07:04 PM MDT
Looking hard at a 10mm stock 3. How does that rank in the lineup?
The stocks are great guns. I prefer the stock 1.
Stock 3s are somewhat rare. Especially in 9mm since that model is targeted somewhat to competition shooters. It has the longest OAL of the witness pistols and a full rail dust cover. I have a match and a limited, so I can't directly speak to it. I think it has a straight barrel (not a cone barrel) but I can be positive. All blued, cool looking. I think caliber conversions are going to be an issue if that is a concern because the frame is slightly longer that the stock I & II. (You will have to deal with EAA and purchase directly from them at higher $$)
Personally I would get limited and/or hunter for approx. same money. But the Stock 3 is unique and very cool looking.