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Title: How many defensive rounds you trying to store for the coming collapse?
Post by: Buckeye 50 on May 24 2015 07:24:01 PM MDT
I am thinking if I get get about 500 true defensive rounds plus my range ammo that seems sufficient.

Any thoughts by more experienced fighters?

Thanks,

Pat
Title: Re: How many defensive rounds you trying to store for the coming collapse?
Post by: The_Shadow on May 24 2015 07:49:55 PM MDT
More than I may need...lost count and one shelf collapsed because of the weight... :o
Title: Re: How many defensive rounds you trying to store for the coming collapse?
Post by: 4949shooter on May 24 2015 07:57:00 PM MDT
I think I have somewhere between 5000 and 10000.

Mrs. 49 asked what was locked up in the lockers once. Told her it was just some old hunting stuff.  :P
Title: Re: How many defensive rounds you trying to store for the coming collapse?
Post by: cwall64 on May 24 2015 08:46:32 PM MDT
Damn!  What bullets are y'all using?  I haven't seen too many bulk HPs like XTPs or Gold Dots that I would normally run as a defensive round...
Title: Re: How many defensive rounds you trying to store for the coming collapse?
Post by: 4949shooter on May 25 2015 04:18:05 AM MDT
Sorry Cwall, I included rifle rounds with that guestimate.

I probably have 3000 of 3006 and about the same or more in 223.
Title: Re: How many defensive rounds you trying to store for the coming collapse?
Post by: gandog56 on May 25 2015 06:16:53 AM MDT
I'm strange.

There have been incorrect predictions of the end since forever. None have been right yet. I don't worry about it. It won't matter when that asteroid hits the Earth and kills anybody. Make hay while the sun shines!
Title: Re: How many defensive rounds you trying to store for the coming collapse?
Post by: 10mmfan on May 25 2015 07:24:15 AM MDT
I have around 5k total but about 1k is in calibers I don't own
Title: Re: How many defensive rounds you trying to store for the coming collapse?
Post by: DeltaSteve on May 25 2015 07:59:24 AM MDT
For me any round is a defensive round .......I would think any center mass, head shot would do the job :) That being said, I would say I happen to have many thousand JHP and box mild to wild defensive. Large, 30mm sealed ammo boxes of all of all my calibers in ball or jacketed....... Then when I take in account my reloading stock, I would measure that in pounds. Answer to original question, I have some :)

More importantly, I have a plan :)
Title: Re: How many defensive rounds you trying to store for the coming collapse?
Post by: shaneshot on May 25 2015 10:09:06 AM MDT
I have a pretty decent supply in several calibers and a lot in most of the popular calibers. Enough that I'm content and not frightened if another scare happens. Is it enough, without knowing what will happen, who knows. I do know it probably won't go down in value if nothing happens. It could feed my family if the need arises. It could also sit on the shelves wasting space and money. Hopefully my life insurance is a waste as well. I figure as long as my preparing doesn't interfere with life and finances, it makes me feel a little more secure. I think when it takes over your thinking and finances, you've got a problem.
Title: Re: How many defensive rounds you trying to store for the coming collapse?
Post by: Buckeye 50 on May 25 2015 11:11:12 AM MDT
Gandog;

Only the Lord knows the future, but I am expecting/predicting and economic crisis/collapse - not an asteroid or such.  I have dual majors from business school - Economics and Marketing.  Which means only that I have two majors - don't profess to be an expert.  But I closely follow the economy every since taking my first course about 38 years ago.  Right now, I personally think there MAY only be two options; 1) someone convince Americans we need a slow, long term economic fix to our over-spending, cancerous and near demonic printing of money which has all but made the U.S dollar worth as much as Monopoly money, or 2) hit-the-wall.  Which to me seems all but inevitable.  The question is WHEN?

We are absolutely on borrowed time now and have been for at least the last 20 years+.  Ass-clown Obama has tremendously accelerated it to the point where the ice is so thin (metaphor) that with each day I hear the ice "crack" more than the day before and many people are starting to get their feet wet from the ice being so thin.  I personally think this time we will exceed any trauma/damage seen during the 1929 Great Depression, and it will make the 2008/2009 recession (which by the way we are still in) look like choir practice.  JUST IMAGINE YOUR CASH BEING, "NO GOOD?"

http://www.usdebtclock.org/index.html (http://www.usdebtclock.org/index.html)

The REAL problem with an economic crisis of this magnitude is it will hit VERY quickly.  The warning signs are all here  NOW - no one is paying attention.  AND, our Muslim President has executive orders to take control of EVERYTHING.  http://www.marklucasinfo.com/2014/06/15/get-ready-for-the-executive-order-take-over/#comment-1533 (http://www.marklucasinfo.com/2014/06/15/get-ready-for-the-executive-order-take-over/#comment-1533). 

Chaos and riots WILL happen so fast.......

We could fix this, but no politician since Jack Kennedy has the balls to do the right thing - fix it - because it would be political suicide.  We simply can't sustain all these entitlement programs and short-sided government-driven economic programs that stifle natural growth and business.

Sorry - this is what's keeping me up at night.  And if no one thinks this will happen, dust off your history books - we are near a carbon copy of the U.S. in 1929 and Germany in the 1920" and 30's.

I guess I need a LOT more defensive ammo.  Right now, Underwood has good inventories.

Pat



Title: Re: How many defensive rounds you trying to store for the coming collapse?
Post by: Quick 2 on May 25 2015 07:29:55 PM MDT
For all the calibers I have I quit counting at 15,000.
Title: Re: How many defensive rounds you trying to store for the coming collapse?
Post by: mag360 on May 25 2015 07:38:27 PM MDT
A LOT of 5.56.  And crates of 7.62x54r and 9mm.  Again, measure in cases.  The cheapest 5.56 will be better than any pistol ammo you can buy.
Title: Re: How many defensive rounds you trying to store for the coming collapse?
Post by: sqlbullet on May 26 2015 09:06:14 AM MDT
I store lead, primers, powder and brass.  I have about 2000 lbs of lead at any given time.  Generally between 10,000 and 20,000 primers and 2000-3000 brass in the various calibers I shoot.  I keep 50-100 lbs of powder around.  Then I can assemble what makes sense.
Title: Re: How many defensive rounds you trying to store for the coming collapse?
Post by: Rlee276 on May 26 2015 10:50:47 AM MDT
Quote from: mag360 on May 25 2015 07:38:27 PM MDT
A LOT of 5.56.  And crates of 7.62x54r and 9mm.  Again, measure in cases.  The cheapest 5.56 will be better than any pistol ammo you can buy.


Agreed I have thousands of pistol rounds but my bulk stock pile of 308,762x39,545x39 , and 223 is rediculous . Spam can / ammo cans galore
Title: Re: How many defensive rounds you trying to store for the coming collapse?
Post by: MikeS. on May 26 2015 12:23:49 PM MDT
Quote from: shaneshot on May 25 2015 10:09:06 AM MDT
I have a pretty decent supply in several calibers and a lot in most of the popular calibers. Enough that I'm content and not frightened if another scare happens. Is it enough, without knowing what will happen, who knows. I do know it probably won't go down in value if nothing happens. It could feed my family if the need arises. It could also sit on the shelves wasting space and money. Hopefully my life insurance is a waste as well. I figure as long as my preparing doesn't interfere with life and finances, it makes me feel a little more secure. I think when it takes over your thinking and finances, you've got a problem.

This pretty much sums it all up.
Title: Re: How many defensive rounds you trying to store for the coming collapse?
Post by: MikeS. on May 26 2015 12:30:39 PM MDT
So who currently has good prices on plain Jane 5.56 ammo?  What can I expect to pay for 1000 rounds?
Title: Re: How many defensive rounds you trying to store for the coming collapse?
Post by: MikeS. on May 26 2015 01:04:04 PM MDT
So I just placed an order with MBC. They'll never go bad.
Title: Re: How many defensive rounds you trying to store for the coming collapse?
Post by: Denver1911 on May 26 2015 03:21:13 PM MDT
Quote from: Buckeye 50 on May 24 2015 07:24:01 PM MDT
I am thinking if I get get about 500 true defensive rounds plus my range ammo that seems sufficient.

Any thoughts by more experienced fighters?

Thanks,

Pat

Are you really planning on needing to shoot 500 people?  Or just miss a lot?

Wanna know what keeps me up at night?  That freaking light on the smoke detector.
Title: Re: How many defensive rounds you trying to store for the coming collapse?
Post by: The_Shadow on May 26 2015 03:26:09 PM MDT
I just pray I will never need to use all of mine for defensive purposes, I'd much rather use them for hunting or target play.
However I am prepared either way!  ::)
Title: Re: How many defensive rounds you trying to store for the coming collapse?
Post by: Buckeye 50 on May 26 2015 05:49:21 PM MDT
Denver;

Good question!  Don't know; don't know how many rounds one needs, which is why I asked of course.

Pat
Title: Re: How many defensive rounds you trying to store for the coming collapse?
Post by: shaneshot on May 26 2015 09:20:01 PM MDT
Quote

Are you really planning on needing to shoot 500 people?  Or just miss a lot?

Wanna know what keeps me up at night?  That freaking light on the smoke detector.

I'm happy for your contentment and would not try to talk you out of it. Not trying to read anything into your comment that isn't there but, there are a lot of us who store up things just in case without being afraid of the dark as well. We simply look at it as possible insurance.  We don't buy in hopes of needing it, just the opposite. It also a good hedge against any future ammo scare that might drive up pricing or cause scarcity.
Title: Re: How many defensive rounds you trying to store for the coming collapse?
Post by: Denver1911 on May 27 2015 05:41:41 AM MDT
I do keep plenty of ammo on hand for times when availability drops off.  I have about six months supply for my regular shooting needs.  This is north of 10,000 in a combination of loaded rounds and components.  Some of those are hollow points.
Title: Re: How many defensive rounds you trying to store for the coming collapse?
Post by: sqlbullet on May 27 2015 07:17:11 AM MDT
Every range trip I run at least 50 rounds of defense ammo at the end of the session.  Even in busy times when there is only one range trip per year this means 600 rds is a year supply.
Title: Re: How many defensive rounds you trying to store for the coming collapse?
Post by: Pablo on May 27 2015 09:00:03 PM MDT
Just realized I have a lot of ammo.

A relatively small amount is "HP". But a LOT of it can be defined as defensive. I mean who actually would want to be hit with 180gr 10mm FN out of an 11" barrel cooking along at ~1300 FPS? Or 6.8SPC 110gr?
Title: Re: How many defensive rounds you trying to store for the coming collapse?
Post by: gandog56 on May 28 2015 06:18:36 AM MDT
Quote from: Buckeye 50 on May 25 2015 11:11:12 AM MDT
Gandog;

Only the Lord knows the future, but I am expecting/predicting and economic crisis/collapse - not an asteroid or such.  I have dual majors from business school - Economics and Marketing.  Which means only that I have two majors - don't profess to be an expert.  But I closely follow the economy every since taking my first course about 38 years ago.  Right now, I personally think there MAY only be two options; 1) someone convince Americans we need a slow, long term economic fix to our over-spending, cancerous and near demonic printing of money which has all but made the U.S dollar worth as much as Monopoly money, or 2) hit-the-wall.  Which to me seems all but inevitable.  The question is WHEN?

We are absolutely on borrowed time now and have been for at least the last 20 years+.  Ass-clown Obama has tremendously accelerated it to the point where the ice is so thin (metaphor) that with each day I hear the ice "crack" more than the day before and many people are starting to get their feet wet from the ice being so thin.  I personally think this time we will exceed any trauma/damage seen during the 1929 Great Depression, and it will make the 2008/2009 recession (which by the way we are still in) look like choir practice.  JUST IMAGINE YOUR CASH BEING, "NO GOOD?"

http://www.usdebtclock.org/index.html (http://www.usdebtclock.org/index.html)

The REAL problem with an economic crisis of this magnitude is it will hit VERY quickly.  The warning signs are all here  NOW - no one is paying attention.  AND, our Muslim President has executive orders to take control of EVERYTHING.  http://www.marklucasinfo.com/2014/06/15/get-ready-for-the-executive-order-take-over/#comment-1533 (http://www.marklucasinfo.com/2014/06/15/get-ready-for-the-executive-order-take-over/#comment-1533). 

Chaos and riots WILL happen so fast.......

We could fix this, but no politician since Jack Kennedy has the balls to do the right thing - fix it - because it would be political suicide.  We simply can't sustain all these entitlement programs and short-sided government-driven economic programs that stifle natural growth and business.

Sorry - this is what's keeping me up at night.  And if no one thinks this will happen, dust off your history books - we are near a carbon copy of the U.S. in 1929 and Germany in the 1920" and 30's.

I guess I need a LOT more defensive ammo.  Right now, Underwood has good inventories.

Pat

Fine and dandy if you want to worry about something that may or may not happen. I choose not to. I could just be a little more happy in my life, and won't send my blood pressure rising. That said, I have a whole shed full of reloads, but not because I am worried about the zombie apocalypse. Because I am worried that Hillary may be our next president, and cause even worse reloading supply shortages than Obozo.
Title: Re: How many defensive rounds you trying to store for the coming collapse?
Post by: cwall64 on May 28 2015 08:52:26 AM MDT
QuoteBecause I am worried that Hillary may be our next president, and cause even worse reloading supply shortages than Obozo.

Amen to that!
Title: Re: How many defensive rounds you trying to store for the coming collapse?
Post by: wadcutter on May 29 2015 10:03:47 AM MDT
Not much, I have a couple boxes of XTP's for various handgun calibers and a few hundred 30 caliber softpoints none of which are even loaded yet. I shoot mostly lead in handguns and my rifle ammo is loaded when needed. I'm not big on prepping, I'm more worried about panic buying events leaving me high and dry so I have a decent supply of components and powder but few loaded rounds.
Title: Re: How many defensive rounds you trying to store for the coming collapse?
Post by: MikeS. on May 29 2015 10:54:12 PM MDT
Quote from: cwall64 on May 28 2015 08:52:26 AM MDT
QuoteBecause I am worried that Hillary may be our next president, and cause even worse reloading supply shortages than Obozo.

Amen to that!

I agree.