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Title: EBay... Ughhh
Post by: Intercooler on May 20 2015 04:28:06 PM MDT
    I haven't used them in a while for selling. Did I miss something on their fees lately? I got my invoice for the magazine I just sold and my jaw about hit the floor  :o

May 11 17:22:44   SMITH & WESSON S&W 10mm FACTORY MAGAZINE 9RD, 1006, 1026, 1046, 1066, 1076, 1086
151678316819   Reserve Price Listing Fee    $3.00
May 12 17:45:32   SMITH & WESSON S&W 10mm FACTORY MAGAZINE 9RD, 1006, 1026, 1046, 1066, 1076, 1086
Final price: $140.00 (Auction)   151678316819   Final Value Fee    $14.00
May 12 17:46:09   SMITH & WESSON S&W 10mm FACTORY MAGAZINE 9RD, 1006, 1026, 1046, 1066, 1076, 1086
Shipping and other costs less sales tax: $5.90 (Auction)   151678316819   Final Value Fee on Shipping    $0.59

$3.00 to list, looks like 10% final fee and what is the .59 final value on the shipping? I don't get that one and  10% seems steep to me on top of the listing price.
Title: Re: EBay... Ughhh
Post by: DenStinett on May 20 2015 08:13:52 PM MDT
The fee on shipping ?
I asked the USPS and they said it is illegal to charge a fee to collect shipping charges
So when I asked them about it, Ebay's answer was; "So, if you don't like it sell someplace else"
Here's the catch....Ebay is run out of South Africa, and there's nothing the USPS can do about it
Title: Re: EBay... Ughhh
Post by: shootz on May 20 2015 08:51:36 PM MDT
I stopped using ebay when they made paypal mandatory.
Title: Re: EBay... Ughhh
Post by: Pinsnscrews on May 21 2015 02:15:00 AM MDT
The fee on shipping is due to people jacking up the shipping costs to make a profit, it is actually what you would pay on income tax as eBay has to report what you get paid in shipping to the IRS. Oh, and just because eBay is not in the US does not mean they can't get in trouble. They have had to pay some hefty fines because they were not providing proper reports on their sellers to the IRS.
Title: Re: EBay... Ughhh
Post by: Intercooler on May 21 2015 02:31:52 AM MDT
    I read about it on the Community page this morning. Still a crock! I guess I will explore the free and low fee avenues of selling before even thinking of EBay anytime soon.
Title: Re: EBay... Ughhh
Post by: gandog56 on May 21 2015 11:53:00 AM MDT
I did know they charge for a reserve price.
Title: Re: EBay... Ughhh
Post by: Intercooler on August 06 2015 11:56:47 AM MDT
Bringing this back up. I guess I didn't learn and have another story to share when I get home. Another steaming pile!
Title: Re: EBay... Ughhh
Post by: Intercooler on August 06 2015 03:20:24 PM MDT
  I had a Fuji S7000 that I was using to shoot Wildlife, etc... and was in the process of upgrading to a better camera. It worked up until the day I removed the batteries, memory card, etc... perfect (The Shadow can vouch for that having seen them often). I took photos of it and up on EBay it went. I listed it under the category as "no returns accepted", because it's an electronic and that makes it hard to tell what a person will do in the handling of such an item. I also made one mistake in the listing where I forgot to uncheck Canada for potential buyers and that is who purchased it. That makes things more difficult and I also only charged $10.00 shipping due to the error! This is the deal on it...

- Buyer pays and asks two days later when his package will ship. It clearly states 3 business days and he contacts on a Tuesday (auction ended Saturday with payment Sunday). Shipped on Wednesday the 3rd business day. Real impatient!
- Delivered in BC 7/27 according to the tracking information
- On 8/5 I get an email from EBay that a SNAD "significantly not as described dispute" was generated. This without any contact to me about it 10 days after having received it! If you pestered someone about an item and then get it... don't you immediately check it out and especially something electronic?
- His reason was it was purple pictures. It's clearly black and that was stated as such. All the pictures were of a black camera. This part wasn't making any sense!
- Then I looked at a picture he attached:
(http://postorder.ebay.com/Return/RtnDownloadFile?fileId=5003334029&s=3&cDate=1438799658000&returnId=5014068036&draftId=undefined&isThumbnail=false)
Showing what looks like a purple screen displayed. I had heard about this model camera having the display going out from people asking questions about mine during the sale. It's also on YouTube, although mine was perfect when it left me.
- In looking at the picture it shows no memory card inserted and a low battery indicator. I responded to put fresh batteries and a card in it. His response was "card inserted and fresh batteries".
- Talking with two EBay CSR's didn't get me anywhere today. In the ad EBay gives "Buyer Protection Guarantee" and that trumps me putting no returns accepted. I don't even know why they have the check box and ask the question if regardless you have take the return!!!

  I'm trying to fight it, but doesn't look good. I really don't want the camera back and not taking it I could lose the $75.00 and the camera too. It could just be buyers remorse and he figured how to purple the screen, switcheroo job, dropped it... who knows. Part of why I put the returns not accepted. My thinking is the battery/card thing is all that might be wrong and he gets out of his purchase on me after having it for 10 days without a peep.

Title: Re: EBay... Ughhh
Post by: Intercooler on August 06 2015 03:39:03 PM MDT
Here is some interesting reading of what I'm up against:

https://www.paypal-community.com/t5/How-to-use-PayPal-Archive/Buyers-abusing-quot-not-as-described-quot-to-force-refund-when/td-p/15414/page/2


What route to take? Just stay the course of not taking it, or get it back and possibly show it works if it's just batteries and putting the card in? Even then I would probably need to do some type of realtime video with an EBay CSR showing it working fine to nail them on fraud.
Title: Re: EBay... Ughhh
Post by: redbaron007 on August 07 2015 08:10:26 AM MDT
I stopped using eBay a few years ago. I bought and sold several things; had a couple of folks back out of the deal as soon as they won; eBay did nothing; so I had to pay again to relist....think it was a eBay scam to generate revenue. A buddy of mine calls them eRape.

I don't think I've even logged onto eBay in a year or so just to browse.

Needless to say...not a fan of that online retailer.
Title: Re: EBay... Ughhh
Post by: Intercooler on August 07 2015 09:29:01 AM MDT
I can't blame you. It seems since it's totally geared towards the buyer, you should just buy there.
Title: Re: EBay... Ughhh
Post by: rw on August 07 2015 09:49:12 AM MDT
Don't know where to begin on my eBay problems, honestly too much to type out..

Summary... Seller is rarely right and buyer is rarely wrong. eBay could care less who gets screwed over as long as they get their cut. PayPal is even worse. I know of quite a few who had accounts frozen for assinine reasons, one was nearly $250,000. Last I heard from the guy I knew at that company they were still trying to get it released. It had been 3 years at that point.
Title: Re: EBay... Ughhh
Post by: Intercooler on August 07 2015 10:44:45 AM MDT
Although PayPal has been convenient I'm thinking about dumping it too.
Title: Re: EBay... Ughhh
Post by: my_old_glock on August 07 2015 11:31:32 AM MDT


I bought a motorcycle engine off ebay for $200 delivered. The seller shipped to some unknown address. Both ebay and Paypal said the item was delivered, so they didn't give me a refund. I lost $200.

A friend of mine sold a brand new Sig Sauer 22LR conversion kit. The buyer said it wasn't as described and returned it. The returned items was all scratched up. He looked at the other guys feedback and noticed that he had won another USED Sig Sauer 22LR kit a week earlier. The kit the buyer returned looked exactly like the used kit he bought. Ebay wouldn't give him his money.



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Title: Re: EBay... Ughhh
Post by: Pumpkinheaver on August 11 2015 09:42:11 PM MDT
Quote from: shootz on May 20 2015 08:51:36 PM MDT
I stopped using ebay when they made paypal mandatory.
me too.
Title: Re: EBay... Ughhh
Post by: Intercooler on August 12 2015 06:31:35 PM MDT
It's on the way back according to the tracker. I can't wait to see what I get back!
Title: Re: EBay... Ughhh
Post by: Wolfie on August 12 2015 07:48:10 PM MDT
Good luck epay stinks
Title: Re: EBay... Ughhh
Post by: gandog56 on August 13 2015 05:03:10 PM MDT
Quote from: my_old_glock on August 07 2015 11:31:32 AM MDT
A friend of mine sold a brand new Sig Sauer 22LR conversion kit. The buyer said it wasn't as described and returned it. The returned items was all scratched up. He looked at the other guys feedback and noticed that he had won another USED Sig Sauer 22LR kit a week earlier. The kit the buyer returned looked exactly like the used kit he bought. Ebay wouldn't give him his money.

You mean ebay did something right?

Did you at least have to return the bogus kit back to him?
Title: Re: EBay... Ughhh
Post by: my_old_glock on August 13 2015 07:23:42 PM MDT
Quote from: gandog56 on August 13 2015 05:03:10 PM MDT
Quote from: my_old_glock on August 07 2015 11:31:32 AM MDT
A friend of mine sold a brand new Sig Sauer 22LR conversion kit. The buyer said it wasn't as described and returned it. The returned items was all scratched up. He looked at the other guys feedback and noticed that he had won another USED Sig Sauer 22LR kit a week earlier. The kit the buyer returned looked exactly like the used kit he bought. Ebay wouldn't give him his money.

You mean ebay did something right?

Did you at least have to return the bogus kit back to him?



No. Ebay screwed my friend. They said that he didn't ship the item the way it was described. He claimed new, the buyer claimed it was used.



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Title: Re: EBay... Ughhh
Post by: Intercooler on August 15 2015 02:47:15 PM MDT
     I received it back today and tried both memory cards and two sets of batteries. I'm seeing the same thing here, so I can only guess in the process of getting up into BC Canada... crapped out! I issued a full refund and an appology for whatever happened to it before he got it.
      They alway say it's how you handle things. I think if he would have contacted me first instead of going right to a SNAD claim, my response would have been better. The other thing he should have done was a photo with good battery power and a memory card inserted properly. Those two things didn't show in my testing here and threw up some red flags on my end given only that one single picture.
      Oddly, you can get contact phone numbers and phone someone up... nobody uses the phone anymore either!