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10mm Ammuntion => Reloading 10mm ammo => Topic started by: r.montoure on May 20 2015 02:00:25 AM MDT

Title: Powders?
Post by: r.montoure on May 20 2015 02:00:25 AM MDT
Hey guys I'm looking to get a list of powders that you will  reload your 10 millimeter not being picky just want to know so that when I go to the hardware store I can actually pick something up that they have in stock. Thanks
Title: Powders?
Post by: sstewart on May 20 2015 06:25:18 AM MDT
Best
Longshot
#9
Blue dot
Be86 (not used myself)
800x (needs hand weigh)

Will work
Tite group (ok plinking, fast , can double charge because charge weight is small so powder cop etc. Good idea)

Some others on here too, others will advise
Title: Re: Powders?
Post by: The_Shadow on May 20 2015 07:47:27 AM MDT
Hodgdon LongShot
IMR 800X
Alliant Blue Dot
Accurate Arms #9
Accurate Arms #7
Alliant BE-86
Hodgdon CFE Pistol
Alliant Power Pistol
Ramshot Silhouette
Alliant Unique
Hodgdon HS-6
There are a few others that will also work for target play
Title: Re: Powders?
Post by: sqlbullet on May 20 2015 08:43:46 AM MDT
I mainline Blue Dot and Unique.  Blue Dot gives near max velocities, and Unique is economical for plinking.  Plus, there are recipes for about every caliber with those two powders.

I have also used Longshot, AA#9 and Power Pistol with OK results.
Title: Re: Powders?
Post by: Taterhead on May 20 2015 09:26:59 AM MDT
All of these have worked for me in 10mm (except Power Pistol that I haven't opened yet).. Each has strengths and weaknesses. Generally (lots of ways to argue about this) in the order of most useful...

Accurate no. 7
Blue Dot
Longshot
Accurate no. 9
Power Pistol (on my bench waiting to test)
WSF
Silhouette
Accurate no. 5
Unique
800-X

There are some VV powders in the proper burn speed, but I have no personal experience with them.
Title: Re: Powders?
Post by: cwall64 on May 20 2015 10:12:51 AM MDT
I noticed that www.cabelas.com has AA #7 this morning in 1 lbs canisters, if you're willing to pay the hazmat fees...
Title: Re: Powders?
Post by: r.montoure on May 20 2015 01:55:54 PM MDT
I'll have to check cabelas this afternoon. To see what they got. I try to stick to powders that use less volume so that my pound goes farther.  I have some hp38 and 800x. Gotta pull some cause my scale got bumped mid way through and now I'm paranoid. Thanks allot guys this helps me a lot.
Title: Re: Powders?
Post by: r.montoure on May 20 2015 01:56:59 PM MDT
It's nice since cabelas opened in green bay. Now it's not a two hour drive to go looking
Title: Re: Powders?
Post by: Rooster41 on May 20 2015 05:12:34 PM MDT
Ive only used Longshot.  I have AA#9 and Bluedot.  I was using those in the 44 Mag when I had that.  May just have to give those other a try if/when I cannot find Longshot.
Title: Re: Powders?
Post by: Scorpion on May 24 2015 06:33:49 AM MDT
I just scored some BE-86. Not much data on it. Sounds like a good powder. I'm also new to 10mm. Also have some IMR800x.
Title: Re: Powders?
Post by: gandog56 on May 24 2015 07:46:17 AM MDT
What I've used:
HP38
Unique
800X
Blue Dot
AA#7
AA#9

The cleanest I think was the HP38. The dirtiest was the Unique. The most I can reload with a 1 pound can is with the Unique. I am using Blue Dot right now because I got a 4 pound can of it. HP38 is kind of hard to find right now. I haven't seen an 8 pound jug of it available since Obozo got himself re-elected.
Title: Re: Powders?
Post by: cwall64 on May 24 2015 02:07:52 PM MDT
I have been using BE-86, Longshot, and 800X.  With book values on 800X I was not that impressed, but I upped the charge just a little (with lower charges I got much higher ES and SD - if that matters?) and had some great results this weekend, downside is that I think it needs to be hand weighed as it does not seem to meter well...  Was not too difficult for me as I was using a RCBS Chargemaster Duo.

Glock 20 Gen4, KKM barrel, 24 lbs Glockmeister RSA.

String:   1   
Date:   5/23/15   
Time:   9:35:52 AM   
Grains:   180   
Hi Vel:   1260   
Low Vel:   1226   
Ave Vel:   1237   
Ext Spread:   34   
Std Dev:   9   
IMR 800X 9.0 gr - Hornady 180 gr HAP - Federal 150M - OAL 1.260      
Velocity   Power Factor   Ft/Lbs
1228   221.04   602.658
1240   223.2   614.494
1260   226.8   634.476
1227   220.86   601.677
1238   222.84   612.513
1226   220.68   600.696
1238   222.84   612.513
1244   223.92   618.465
1235   222.3   609.548
1238   222.84   612.513
Title: Re: Powders?
Post by: Geeman on May 24 2015 06:12:56 PM MDT
First on my list is 800x.  No powder delivers higher velocity at lower pressure.  MUST hand measure (of Chargemaster).

Second is Longshot.  It is about perfect in burn speed and meters much better than 800x.

CFE Pistol.  It does quite well.

I use some Pistol Power and BE-86.  The bang for the buck is very good.  Burn speed is a bit fast for 10mm, but its bulky enough to avoid a possible double charge.  They are still able to deliver decent velocity.

I've never used AA7, AA9, Not a fan of BlueDot, but never loaded it in 10mm.

Greg
Title: Re: Powders?
Post by: Scorpion on May 25 2015 01:37:57 PM MDT
I'm loading Starline brass and 180 XTP.  Should I start at 9 grains of 800x, or start around 8 and work up in .2 increments?
Title: Re: Powders?
Post by: The_Shadow on May 25 2015 02:07:25 PM MDT
Hello Scorpion from another Louisiana boy, 9.0 IMR800X is good to go, I have used even more but I stop at 9.6 grains with the 180 XTP's because they work in all of my pistols.  Some of the guns can take more if they are great chambers and properly setup!

Here is some study info for you...
http://10mm-firearms.com/factory-10mm-ammo-pull-downs/underwood's-lineup-135155165180220/ (http://10mm-firearms.com/factory-10mm-ammo-pull-downs/underwood's-lineup-135155165180220/)
Title: Re: Powders?
Post by: Scorpion on May 25 2015 06:07:07 PM MDT
Thanks shadow. Some great info there!
Title: Re: Powders?
Post by: Taterhead on May 26 2015 08:53:17 AM MDT
Quote from: Scorpion on May 25 2015 01:37:57 PM MDT
I'm loading Starline brass and 180 XTP.  Should I start at 9 grains of 800x, or start around 8 and work up in .2 increments?

Start at 8. 9.1 grains gave pressure symptoms in my testing.
Title: Re: Powders?
Post by: cwall64 on May 26 2015 10:19:02 AM MDT
Quote from: Taterhead on May 26 2015 08:53:17 AM MDT
Quote from: Scorpion on May 25 2015 01:37:57 PM MDT
I'm loading Starline brass and 180 XTP.  Should I start at 9 grains of 800x, or start around 8 and work up in .2 increments?

Start at 8. 9.1 grains gave pressure symptoms in my testing.

Tater,
What signs were you noticing?  Gun that gave signs?  I was using a G20 with KKM barrel and a G29 stock barrel and the case expansion at 9.0 grains was very little on Starline brass (both guns were lower than 0.430").  I ask for information only as I definitely do not want to push too hard, but did like the results at 9.0 grains...
Title: Re: Powders?
Post by: Scorpion on June 06 2015 10:26:52 PM MDT
Hey Shadow. I just bought a Rick Island 10mm. Not bad! Geaux Tigers!!