I read this blog entry today:
http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2015/04/12/10-lessons-from-the-worst-gun-she-ever-owned/?utm_source=Newsletter&utm_medium=Email&utm_content=2015-04-14&utm_campaign=Weekly+Newsletter
It has some good insight. The first item on Ms. Lauer's list of 10 is:
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LESSON 1 – DEFENSIVE CALIBERS DON'T HAVE TO START WITH "4"
And I completely agree. The best defensive caliber starts with a "1" - 10mm Auto!
I always started at .40/175g... :) But I like the way you think! ;D
CW
10mm is .40; however it is not .40 S&W.
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Lesson 5 – Reputations can change
When I was researching my first pistol, I read reviews. When I asked the question, "Is Kimber a good firearm?" the response I got was a resounding yes. The firearm was expensive—It's Kimber!—but I was willing to pay for quality. Kimber had a reputation for quality, and I trusted that.
Throughout the years, I have owned four Kimber firearms. Two of them have been fine working machines. The other two can only be called firearms in the sense that they occasionally fired bullets. They also gave me lots of opportunities to work on my malfunction clearing techniques. I wrote Kimber off as a company I would ever consider buying from again, and noticed I was not alone.
Plenty of people have changed their opinions of many manufacturers over the years. Glock almost went through a huge decline with the issues they had with the Gen 4 Glock 19s. They were able to save themselves with outstanding customer service and a bunch of free recoil springs. In the end it saved their reputation as a quality manufacturer.
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I have long maintained that anyone who is serious about personal defense capabilities with a firearm should own at least one handgun that won't run. Then they they get the chance to run clearance drills without having to simulate a malfunction! ;D
Quote from: sqlbullet on April 14 2015 12:37:44 PM MDT
I have long maintained that anyone who is serious about personal defense capabilities with a firearm should own at least one handgun that won't run. Then they they get the chance to run clearance drills without having to simulate a malfunction! ;D
That's what my remaining rounds of 10mm Gold Dots are good for!
Quote from: GunBugBit on April 14 2015 10:08:42 AM MDT
10mm is .40; however it is not .40 S&W.
Yup. :D :D :D
BTW, your not .40phobic are you? :o The 40 is a damn fine defensive caliber. Its NO 10MM, but its NO slouch either.
CW
Quote from: cwlongshot on April 14 2015 02:14:06 PM MDT
Quote from: GunBugBit on April 14 2015 10:08:42 AM MDT
10mm is .40; however it is not .40 S&W.
Yup. :D :D :D
BTW, your not .40phobic are you? :o The 40 is a damn fine defensive caliber. Its NO 10MM, but its NO slouch either.
CW
Not at all. I like the stuff. My main CCW is a G23 and I have a G22, shoot them both often.
For enjoyable shooting, though, it's 1911s and Hi-Powers.
Back in the early 1980's I was considering my purchase of my first semi auto handgun, before that I only carried revolvers.
Anyway I studied the various makes, models and calibers. Along came this totally new and yet unproven cartridge we now know as the 10mm. It's ballistics being close to the 357 Magnum is what really peaked my interest. So as I looked for a pistol and being a S&W fan, I looked for the S&W1006 based on many things, S&W quality, reliability, durability from a name brand firearms maker. It also held more than the Colt Delta Elite and the Bren Tens were having their problems with the magazines and availability. I also had not warmed up to the "Plastic Fantastic" Glocks.
Then finally a beautiful Smith & Wesson 1006 showed in the cabinet of my local gun store. I put a down payment on it and then paid it off and received it March 1st, 1990. I had even bought a box of Winchester Black Talon (my only box of factory ammo). I had already purchased RCBS carbide dies (10mm Only), RCBS had switched over from the "Bren Ten" naming but the 40S&W had not been developed until January of 1990.
I started loading the Hornady 170 grain TC's and pushing them with my favorite powder Blue Dot. The gun ran like a sewing machine, but the trigger was nowhere near that of the smooth, clean and crisp break of the revolvers I had grown a custom to. I had to train myself to shoot that thing, the take up was hard to get used to. But the gun was very accurate and it wasn't any trouble to hit sheet sized targets (and smaller) at a 130 yards.
It wasn't long and I also purchased a RCBS 175gr TC SWC mold to cast bullets from and the sizer for my Lubrimatic press. These cheaper to shoot, wheel weight alloy projectiles also came with a learning curve. They taught me that seating and crimping in separate steps made a world of difference in the performance and feeding reliability. My loads were 10.4 grains of Blue Dot and the case expansion in the good chamber of the S&W resized nicely to be reused many many times.
As time when on the training being done by Navy Seals FBI and other Law enforcement at the range allowed me to gather up some 10mm casings. Many of which had the sooted lines and markings down the sides as being shot from the HK MP-5 10mm, even some that showed a slight bulge near the extractor groove. Those started to show signs of less reliability in feeding.
Then the influx of the 40S&W started to come along, then there was 40 brass everywhere on the range, which I just snatched up because it was there. Early on Bar-Sto came out with a 40S&W conversion barrel to fit the S&W1006 and I put those 40S&W brass to use from the newly fitted match grade Bar-Sto conversion. But remember the RCBS dies were not cut to do the 40S&W taper crimp, the die body is too long and contacts the shell holder before getting proper taper crimp. But they tended to cycle fairly reliably despite the lack of a good taper crimp and allow more trigger time from the same pistol feel and sight picture.
Then LEE came out with what they called their FCD (Factory Crimp Die), I started using it as a final crimp die, but this didn't last long, in many instances it left the bullet loose inside the case as it passed through the carbide ring in its base. I pulled the guts out to study the issue and realized there was a better use for this die as a "PASS THROUGH DIE"!
I eventually found a RCBS 40S&W seater crimp die. BTW 40S&W through a 5" barrel do gain a bit more than the shorter barrels.
Therefore 10mm and 40S&W have had their place in my choices. ;D
Quote from: GunBugBit on April 15 2015 08:55:08 AM MDT
Quote from: cwlongshot on April 14 2015 02:14:06 PM MDT
Quote from: GunBugBit on April 14 2015 10:08:42 AM MDT
10mm is .40; however it is not .40 S&W.
Yup. :D :D :D
BTW, your not .40phobic are you? :o The 40 is a damn fine defensive caliber. Its NO 10MM, but its NO slouch either.
CW
Not at all. I like the stuff. My main CCW is a G23 and I have a G22, shoot them both often.
For enjoyable shooting, though, it's 1911s and Hi-Powers.
GOOD to hear!! You had me worried for a moment.
There is a "few" out there misinformed souls that thing its a short and weak..
I have a couple 1911;s and two Hi Powers too. Do you have a CZ75? That and the Hi Power are the epitome of ergonomic in a hand gun. ;D ;D
CW
It is interesting to really study the history that lead up to the 10mm auto.
The prototype gun that was built in the 70's in wildcat was a Browning Hi-Power chambered for 40 G&A. Col. Cooper "advised" on the project, it used cut down 30 remington brass and pushed a 180 grain to 1000 fps. According to reports I have read they actually pushed the load clear to 1100 fps using Unique, but then they started have cases "politely" let go. Makes me wonder if they could have done more with a slower powder.
Quote from: cwlongshot on April 15 2015 04:07:12 PM MDT
Quote from: GunBugBit on April 15 2015 08:55:08 AM MDT
Quote from: cwlongshot on April 14 2015 02:14:06 PM MDT
Quote from: GunBugBit on April 14 2015 10:08:42 AM MDT
10mm is .40; however it is not .40 S&W.
Yup. :D :D :D
BTW, your not .40phobic are you? :o The 40 is a damn fine defensive caliber. Its NO 10MM, but its NO slouch either.
CW
Not at all. I like the stuff. My main CCW is a G23 and I have a G22, shoot them both often.
For enjoyable shooting, though, it's 1911s and Hi-Powers.
GOOD to hear!! You had me worried for a moment.
There is a "few" out there misinformed souls that thing its a short and weak..
I have a couple 1911;s and two Hi Powers too. Do you have a CZ75? That and the Hi Power are the epitome of ergonomic in a hand gun. ;D ;D
CW
Totally agree that Hi-Powers and CZs are the cat's pajamas ergonomically.
I had a P-01 (aluminum) and very much want a full-size CZ 75, and the all-steel compact. A local gun store as a batch of blued CZ 75s.